Since the time of Jesus and before money has been used to bind mankind.
Usury is slavery to debt, it is the ultimate control for enslavement of the will of the individual. What is evil about usury is that even when the money has been returned to the lender the debt can still remain.
I'm not sure what form lending and money exchange should have but I'm certain the form that it is now in is nothing but a tool of evil men in league with Satan. You would like to think I'm making an illustration, but the false reality we live within simply hides the black hand that the world lives under. We look at the world as we want to see it, not how it actually is.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
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15190964? ago
Interest is not an evil.
It is a reflection of values inherent in the universal truth about human action, which is positive time preference.
It is an economic law based on what we are.
All else equal, a good or service is worth more the closer in time it is to an individual's utility.
$10,000 received in the year 2068 is worth less than $10,000 received today.
In order to convince me to give up $10,000 for 50 years, which is value given by me voluntarily to a borrower, I am not a sheep, I expect value to be given by the borrower to me. If they're greedy to want the $10,000, I'll be greedy to want something in return.
If the borrower offers me a larger payback in 50 years, I just might agree to lend them the $10,000 today.
CALL THIS "USURY" ALL YOU WANT. POINT A GUN AT LENDERS AND BORROWERS ALL YOU WANT, YOU CANNOT OVERTURN ECONOMIC LAWS BY PHYSICAL FORCE.
In every attempt throughout human history to stop "usury", including some of the backwards civilizations whose governments have laws against it, they don't actually stop it because the economic laws manifest in lenders and borrowers still paying and receiving interest, it just takes a different form, but the interest is there. Only a FOOL would lend and lend and lend and lend and agree to have one sided trade "deals" where the borrowers get value but the lenders don't. If its greedy to charge interest, SO IS ASKING FOR INTEREST FREE LOANS, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY MONEY FOR NOTHING (and the chicks for free)
15196173? ago
Some people still won't get it. They believe all lending is bad no exceptions.
15192391? ago
It's good to see you don't have a clue how the monetary system works.
The basic premise is that I make you believe that I'm giving you something of Value when I'm actually giving you nothing, and then I tell you you have to pay me back the nothing I gave you as well a bit extra for the privilege of me lending you nothing.
15193329? ago
I have a PhD in economics, specializing in international foreign exchange and debt channels.
Your post contradicts itself by the way.
If the loan is worth nothing because it's toilet paper money, then the interest is also worth nothing because it's in the same denomination, numbnuts.
Or, NEWS FLASH, while said toilet paper money can be argued as not an ideal currency if the goal is to prevent a bunch of satanic bastards from taking control of the production and distribution of money to plunge the world into darkness, the law still requires us to pay taxes in that shit, so unfortunately the people are being effectively forced to act as if the toilet paper has value, and from a shaky perspective even fiat is valued in the market, such that people seek to borrow AND pay interest.
Interest and loans would still be around even with a pure 100% reserve gold standard.
15201677? ago
Interest and Loans may still be around...only for the stupid. But you've been indoctrinated by the cabal system.
15202684? ago
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Communist projecting it's programmed by the communist cabal.
STOOPID
15197552? ago
Dude you have some serious Deprogramming to do. It's hard because we grow up and are taught that this shit is real. Did you want to know the REAL reasons you have to pay Taxes which I bet they never taught you. The first is to stop HyperInflation through all of the money that being created out of NOTHING which is continuously being added into the economy, and No 2(and this is hard one to get ones head around) The money we use is THEIR Creation and as such they can decide how THEIR Creation get used. Is super hard trying to work this shit out and see through the scam when we have been born into the scam and have been taught by everyone around us that have also been duped by the scam that this shit is real.
15199000? ago
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This NPC is projecting its own programming.
15201641? ago
LOL...wrong.
15202687? ago
No, it's right
15191939? ago
I agree to an extent. If it were evil God wouldn't allow interest (in the Mosaic law) to foreigners. (But your point of how important it is is underscored that it was prohibited against a fellow jew).
What you are really highlighting with the FED perhaps is really inflation - more than interest. Even if you never borrow - your dollars are diluted in value since trillions are printed in the future making them of less value. Worse - you the American tax payer - are saddled with debt and obligation that you didn't have any say over - either through elected representatives or even transparency.
15193335? ago
God doesn't stop evil, people do.
15201692? ago
...uhm...not always...
15191414? ago
The issue is that these Banks are creating money out of thin air and charging compounding interest for it. The majority of the capital being produced is going to the financial services sector rather than industry capital.
Hitler rode Germany from poverty by transforming the national Bank and the way it operates.
15191507? ago
"The issue is that these Banks are creating money out of thin air and charging compounding interest for it. The majority of the capital being produced is going to the financial services sector rather than industry capital."
Yes, that's exactly right.
"Hitler rode Germany from poverty by transforming the national Bank and the way it operates."
He also ordered the killing of innocent people.
15191809? ago
Funny how these documents proposing the orders were "destroyed", and the only evidence of "extermination camps" is lovingly provided by the USSR
15193352? ago
Funnier how extermination camps are not the only means by which Hitler ordered the killings of innocent people.
15191677? ago
He ordered the incarceration of those destroying his country. You should read his predictions for America in Mein Kampf, and you would realize you are living them.
15193363? ago
Women and children were incarcerated not because they were "destroying the country".
Try again
15193577? ago
The very presence of the Jew in a country destroys the culture of that country. That is why throughout history they have been kicked out of country after country. All the leaders of all those countries were wrong though by your line of reason. They weren't wrong and neither was Hitler to defend his homeland against that half of the crazy ass semite brothers. It is politically correct to attack the Arab muslims, but the truth is both groups are very similar in many things including trying to destroy anyone that is not a member of their tribe. Fuck them both, and fuck anyone that wants to defend them too.
15193985? ago
^ ^ ^
This is a self-admitted shill.
How to identify with 100% accuracy:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2858861
"They want you divided by race" - Q
"They want you divided by religion" - Q
"Patriots have no skin color" - Q
"This is not about religion, but good versus evil" - Q
These "guilty until proven innocent" degenerate pieces of shit posting this are only trying to turn away new eyes by lying and deceitfully insinuating that the Q movement is as collectivist as these leftist commie shillfucks.
GTFO THIS BOARD, YOU FUCKING LOSERS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
15195166? ago
Go fuck yourself. I have been around this movement for longer than there was a movement. It is the muh-"chosen" johnny come lately mother fuckers like you that need to get lost.. Your fucking stupidity would lead the nation right back down the road to servitude under the Jew global control system they were trying to solidify before the awakening. Go suck some more muh-"chosen" dick, and don't forget to service their secret weapon the muh-nigger while you are at it.
15195219? ago
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This is a self-admitted shill.
How to identify these pathetic disgusting cretins:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2858861
"They want you divided by race" - Q
"They want race wars" - Q
"Patriots have no skin color" - Q
They are PANICKING
15195280? ago
You are repeating yourself like a screaming chanting nigger. Don't they teach you anything else?
15195331? ago
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This shill is repeating the only thing it knows, race baiting shilling, knows this, denies it in itself, attributes it to others.
"Patriots have no skin color" - Q
The shills are predominantly a bunch of uneducated failures who couldn't find real jobs.
15195464? ago
This poster is a lot more educated than you are in a lot more areas. You are a useful idiot or a fucking Jew. Jews advance on the back of the collective. Whites like me advance on our own hard work and merit. BTW: I don't need a fucking job. I am very comfortably retired. :-)
15195502? ago
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This uneducated leftist commie shillfuck loser is PROJECTING ITS OWN DEVOTION TO COLLECTIVIST PROPAGANDA.
How to identify these anti-Q shills with 100% accuracy:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2858861
"They want race wars" - Q
"They want you divided by race" - Q
"They want you divided by religion" - Q
"Patriots have no skin color" - Q
15195720? ago
Let me answer your questions for you little jew troll. Do I believe in Q? I'm torn, but I do want to believe that MI is behind Trump. I thought long before Q came along that the one shot we had was if some in the military still believed in this country and the principles it was founded on. So yes I do want to believe.
I want race wars? Hardly race wars or civil wars and we all lose.
I could give a fuck less what someone's religion is. I believe in God, but I do not believe in church.
Patriot's have no skin color? True, but the society right now is set against Whites by the Jew control of media, and I want it stopped. I am sick and tired of seeing whites be the idiots and niggers be brain surgeons on the jew tube. I am sick of every commercial pushing some blonde bimbo and some gaped tooth nigger together. I believe in my race and I don't want it's intelligence destroyed by mixing with a race that is 20 IQ points lower on average. I am sick of favored status for education, jobs, and even housing being given to everyone but White people. I want a fucking level playing field for all because I know when you level the field my people will be free to reach their true potential. Any White that does not see and does not want that is a fucking enemy to me. Blind faith in diversity is a death sentence. Failing to acknowledge the violence committed and condoned against Whites is a death sentence.
You keep on living in your fucking rainbow world, the real world with catch up to you one day. It won't be a gentle lesson in reality.
15195804? ago
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This ignorant deluded shillfuck degenerate piece of shit is imagining anyone here cares enough to want to have it type "answers".
Sad sad piece of shit.
Hoe to identify these worthless cretins:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2858861
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS
GTFO THIS BOARD YOU LEFTIST COMMIE SHILLFUCK PILE OF TRASH, YOU SICK FUCKS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
15195954? ago
I answered your questions. Now answer mine!
Are you a nigger, a Jew, or just a useful idiot?
You seem to think repeating your bullshit post will stop me. You don't have a clue. I have dealt with little turds like you for a lot of years now.
15195991? ago
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Shill degenerate.
Let it vomit.
Projecting its own sickness.
Sad.
15196155? ago
You didn't answer the question again. You need to time to think about it?
While you wait let me tell you some more true stories.
Once upon a time there was a great program on the TV. Mom, dad, and the children could all sit around on Sunday evening and watch the Wide World of Disney. Sadly, one day the old white man that ran it, Walt, passed away. His heirs sold the company off to Jews, and now you see subliminal messages of dick on the back of cave walls or you get to hear a small child referring to the fucking hipsters in videos for little children.
Here is another one. There once was a great medication invented for folks that suffer life threatening reactions to allergies like bee stings for instance. The epi-pen was available for around $40 to $50 bucks, but then a fucking Jew brought the rights to it, and started $600 per pen. No additional cost for making the pen, just a price gouge from a jew because he could.
I could keep the stories going all night, and I will if you've got the time.
The only people that define racial solidarity and unity a sickness are fucking jews and only then when they are talking about White people.
It is fine for them and every bio-weapon group they champion to have racial pride. So I guess you really did answer my
15196417? ago
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Anti-Q shillfuck degenerate.
How to identify with 100% accuracy:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2858861
"This is not about religion, but good versus evil" - Q
"They want race wars" - Q
"They want class wars" - Q
"They want you divided by race" - Q
These shillfuck leftist commie pieces of shit only speak in terms of collectivist words, spewing guilty until proven innocent propaganda based not on individual values and goals, but on groups and classes.
Pure evil.
Projecting THEIR OWN EVIL.
15196956? ago
Same lame ass reply over and over like a BLM or antifa idiot. You bore me worm.
15199032? ago
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This is a leftist commie NPC shillfuck "joofag" programmed with "No U".
"PATRIOTS HAVE NO SKIN COLOR" - Q
Trump's family is Jewish, the shills don't like this uncomfortable truth because it makes it harder for the shills to joofag at POTUS.
Satanists are not Jews.
These stupid shillfucks are only trying to divide the Q movement. Why? They're scared shitless of Q.
This shill is PANICKING
15199298? ago
Trumps's family is Jewish because anytime a White man becomes extremely wealthy the Jew is taught to worm their way into the money to bring it back under the control of the collective. Trump failed his children in that regard, and he failed to see the mechanism by which Jews gain control of the wealth of others. Thanks for being so generous to point it our for my brothers.
The troll can't win because nothing is stronger than the truth, and the truth scorches the ass of the lying Jew so badly that he cannot stop trying to put out the fire.
15191254? ago
This makes sense only if you think Human Action can have a value placed upon it. I don't think that. I think trading your energy, your very life-force which comes from god - is literally selling your soul. This idea about usury is irrelevant because the idea that we can put values on our priceless energy is the real problem.
FYI it only makes sense if you subscribe to keynesian economics
15191343? ago
No.
Human action itself is not being claimed as having a pricetag.
Time preference is a LOGICAL CATEGORY OF ALL ACTION.
Example:
The fact you chose to to tell me what you just wrote, is a result of the economic law of time preference whereby you chose to write that when you did instead of say a year from now. All else equal, that same exact action, that response, to the post I just wrote, should you ponder waiting for a year before you reply, you would have wanted something more in order to agree to doing that. The proof is that you didn't wait. The law of time preference is manifesting in you posting it now with whatever utility you got from it doing it now.
In other words, out of all of the possible actions you could have taken, the law of time preference also manifests in you acting in accordance with what your most highly valued goals are right here and now, and you put off to the future other possible actions.
Also, this is completely outside of even the understanding of Keynes. Keynes didn't understand the economic law of time preference either, which is precisely why Keynesians call for governments to interfere in the market to affect interest rates! They don't understand the damage they cause.
You don't understand very much economics, if I were you I'd lurk moar
15215881? ago
Time doesn't exist
15227901? ago
Define exist bitch
15385577? ago
Lol
Time doesn't exist, neither does money or space (not outer space the idea that you are different from me and i am different form you). These are all Babylonian Tricks.
Your defense of money while it makes sense in your circular bubble, is totally fraudulent once you realize the nature of reality. You cannot value someones life force.
15386186? ago
"Life force" and money are not incompatible, you stupid Marxist doorknob. Money arises NATURALLY when individuals are FREE TO TRADE AND PRODUCE FOR EACH OTHER.
All money is, before it was usurped by the Satanic Rothschilds, is just the MOST marketable, sought after commodity that allows individuals to temporarily STORE PURCHASING POWER FOR FUTURE TRANSACTIONS.
Historically when individuals are free, they tended to use precious metals as money, because precious metals are BEST, thus far discovered, to perform the function of what people naturally look for in a good money:
Durability, portability, divisibility, uniformity, limited supply, and acceptability.
Money is not fraudulent, YOU ARE YOU FUCKING FRAUD.
A person's "life force" is not being valued when they accept a payment of a commodity that is durable, portable, uniform, divisible, in limited supply and generally accepted in trade. They are ONLY providing their labor. The VALUE of a person's labor is what's being traded, not the person.
In YOUR "circular bubble", you fucking projecting Marxist psycho, you fallaciously conflate two consenting adults trading voluntarily, labor for a fixed income as an example, and because your permission was not acquired first, that insults your sensitive to the point of being psychotic EGO. So you blather on about determining what is good and right for others over and above their own judgments for themselves, as if your judgment of what they should do for themselves, is more important than their own judgments for themselves.
You made the critical error of believing that sounding like a space cadet new age koombaya motherfucker cannot cover up your inner sociopath that seeks to destroy innocent lives because you're fucked in the head.
GTFO this board you tin pot dictator wannabe, you're just a lost pathetic Marxoid dufus.
15392233? ago
wow this is just... art