Enough is enough - repost from the GA sub. (ProtectVoat)

submitted ago by sguevar

For as much as I liked srayzie this movement of people justifying an unjustifiable ban under the false pretence of doxx needs to see this:

I am setting the record straight because the person in question decided not to and because now out of convenience the Mod team of GA is applying a ban hammer without justification. I am also posting this on v/ProtectVoat in case that the mod team wishes to play convenience once again a delete this post.

Multiple times I asked srayzie to set the record straight, this is just the first message I sent to her:

https://i.imgtc.ws/hWftcMX.png

However she was reluctant to do it. So I was forced to send a group message to @Puttitout, @Cynabuns, @PeaceSeeker, @kevdude, @Crensch and to the very same srayzie:

https://i.imgtc.ws/turXcv1.png - this one is the one I sent to Crensch

And here is the post that she did where she linked her personal twitter account:

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2881196

Enough is enough. Stop with the false pretences and narrative. Stop deceiving your subscribers and stop this charade because it is not being done in the best interest of Voat.

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Octocopter ago

Trying to run defense now for those that are targeting kids with violence? I have zero respect for you so why would I now give a flying fuck what your position on the matter is?

Violence against kids is the line that should never be crossed, decide what side of that line you want to be remembered on.

sguevar ago

Trying to run defense now for those that are targeting kids with violence?

Mislabelling what I am doing here is a nice way to engage this conversation.

I have zero respect for you so why would I now give a flying fuck what your position on the matter is?

And I would have to care what your stance on me is because?

Violence against kids is the line that should never be crossed, decide what side of that line you want to be remembered on.

I agree, no doxxing of kids has occur on Voat and we have no "jurisdiction" on other sites. So your white knight faggotry can be put to rest.

Octocopter ago

User agreement

Do Not Incite Harm: You agree not to encourage harm against people.

Protect Kids: You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors.

sguevar ago

Do Not Incite Harm: You agree not to encourage harm against people.

Do we have at Voat probable cause to determine that Zyklon B is in fact engaging on that or is more of a faggots way to attempt to discredit Voat and to appeal to the emotional indignation of the community?

Protect Kids: You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors.

Have any kid been doxxed here at Voat, if so show the proof? Verifiable proof not a comment that shows no doxx...

Octocopter ago

Its not about the doxx, its about calls to violence against kids, and your "muh comedy act trolling bullshit" would not hold up in court.

The line has been crossed and you are still here trying to deflect in defense of those that crossed the line. Your username and statements here will be remembered.

sguevar ago

Its not about the doxx, its about calls to violence against kids, and your "muh comedy act trolling bullshit" would not hold up in court.

But it has.. otherwise why sick fucking (((comedians))) haven't been brought to justice for making rape jokes about kids? Do you have a precedent there that we can lean on or are you just basing all this in your own personal moral and emotional, i might add, indignation?

The line has been crossed and you are still here trying to deflect in defense of those that crossed the line. Your username and statements here will be remembered.

At this moment it hasn't because a due process and concepts are not clearly defined to deal with this and as understanding as I can be to your frustration I am seeing this an opportunity to work on the voids that Voat currently has to prevent this shit from happening again instead of basing our decisions on the virtue signalling faggotry of a bunch of emotional wrecks that can't deal with the though task of getting this done.

Octocopter ago

User agreement

Do Not Incite Harm: You agree not to encourage harm against people.

Protect Kids: You agree not to post any child pornography or sexually suggestive content involving minors.

The line already exists within Voat's rules. Your "opportunity to work on the voids that Voat currently has" is a hollow excuse to push your obvious bullshit deflection attempts.

sguevar ago

Show me the proof of concrete and credible threats and not trolling from the part of the user.

Show me concrete proof of doxxing being made here at Voat.

If you find them then by all means share them but if this just an appeal for moral indignation from your part then we don't need this at Voat.

is a hollow excuse to push your obvious bullshit deflection attempts.

Not really you are simply frustrated because you can't proof your claims. You can't proof they are credible threats, you can't proof there was doxxing here at Voat.

It is not our fault the user linked her social media to Voat. It is not our fault the user didn't take care of that in time. It is not our fault what happens outside of Voat.

So if you only have moral indignation on you then, with all due respect, fuck off.

Octocopter ago

Read the comments yourself, the pages are filled with them from him and others. /u/zyklon_b

You can go ahead and fuck off. You can claim you are only "vigorously defending free speech" all you want. My opinion on you is set now and you had plenty of opportunities to distance yourself from the literal scum of the earth.

The site rules were violated and your pathetic deflection attempts wont do anything to change that, even now people are seeing past that and judging you accordingly to your actions here.

kestrel9 ago

The site rules were violated and your pathetic deflection attempts wont do anything to change that, even now people are seeing past that and judging you accordingly to your actions here.

Agree, isn't that what the process of real consensus entails @sguevar? Not just kneejerk avoidance when you said "So if you only have moral indignation on you then, with all due respect, fuck off."

sguevar ago

You only have circumstantial evidence of that but hey either one of you, let me propose this: I made this proposal to a user that behaves just like you too: https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3250302/18922476

Let's do one thing, please go ahead and report User zyklon B to the Authorities with all that you have from Voat. Go ahead and place the report and then tell me what comes out of it?

Please do it and take a screencap of the report also without doxxing yourself of course and then please make a post with an update to let us know what happened in the end.

I will be more than happy to wait for your update.

Why don't you go ahead and consult with a criminal lawyer while you are at it. Let me know what happens also. Because if you don't do that, according to your stupid logic, that also makes you an accomplice and hence that also makes you a vermin and scum.

Let's see if you are not full of shit.

Why don't you guys try it and get back to us to let us know how did it hold up