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Vindicator ago

But that is how you beat trolls.

You're not beating the trolls.

IF admin is going to ban users we need a clear definition of:

Dox. What is dox? What is the definition @PuttItOut will be using going forward.

Manipulation. What is it? (Although if you go to the Voat preview site you will see Putt is working on some functional changes that I think will put some serious speed bumps on brigading.

I agree with this.

mimes4peace ago

@thewebofslime went missing from Poal over a month ago. I see now why that is but I listen to the podcast and it would be concerning to me if he was a shill. It is something I would really want to know. I think a lot of his other followers would want to know too.

He has had a number of replies to you that you havent addressed and I see that as problematic. Ive tried to do some analysis to understand who is telling the truth and he has way more independently verifiable information than you do. Your response is to use ad hominem attacks. I have concerns with your dishonesty but you can clear something up for everyone if you want to be believed.

A few quick questions here.

This fucker makes posts here to lure people to his website, where he admits he captures their IPs and then compares them to hacker lists of data breaches so he can find out their RL identity. He bragged about it.

Voat captures your IP. Right? It says so. Voat is on the lower end of how much users get tracked but has a voting system in place so you can't hide unless you go out of your way. Facebook steals your entire history beyond even just the Internet. They are two ends of the spectrum.

If someone attacked Voat do you think admin wouldn't use https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip-lookup as the first step? It is standard operating procedure in IT.

If someone logged into your email account and Google reported a security breach and listed the IP address is that not the first thing you would look up? You would be able to see if it was your own device, someone you knew or a random intrusion from Russia.

If someone posted the logs of an attack on their site wouldn't you want to know who the malicious attacker was? For the good of everyone?

From the outside looking in you are acting guilty because you seem terrified that your IP address is exposed.

Google Analytics is easily blocked by uBlock Origins. If you right click and "View Source" on webofslime.com you can see that it is VERY bare bones. Your own device is tracking you a lot more than that site and is making your browsing history available to Amazon and Google.

Here are multiple examples of Voat tracking that Voat has ZERO to do with.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/voat.co

https://www.similarweb.com/website/voat.co#overview

https://www.trackalytics.com/website/voat.co/

It looks like you are being very dishonest and acting very guilty.

You and I can independently verify that the IP address from the second probing attack is legitimate. We can verify the username is legitimate. We can verify that CACI and QinetiQ work together in "Integrated Projects" using the same money earmarked for "Project Earnest Voice." webofslime.com was attacked within minutes of your hostility and now you are caught being dishonest about it.

then compares them to hacker lists of data breaches

This is publicly available information and @thewebofslime shares exactly how to use it. Poal.co hosts this information. PMYB2 downloaded the 300 GB download for anyone to use. Why should we not be allowed to see what is in there? Why would you want that material censored? You deleted the post about this in your own subverse. What do you have to hide if you are telling the truth? If you dont understand that your entire Internet history is out there being traded by companies and governments all over the world then your outrage is sorely misplaced.

Did you actually get doxxed? At any point? If you did then you are guilty.

One last question.

Why did you describe the attack as a DDoS attack?

@kevdude @NOMOCHOMO @think- @crensch

PS: This is why WoS has not been online for a month. It really makes you look like the asshole in this situation.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxyRteMA8fP/

flotus - Wonderful to be back at @WRBethesda today. It was an honor to present the Purple Heart & meet some of our wounded warriors. Prayers for a swift recovery & thank you to the incredible leadership & staff at Walter Reed. God bless all our men & women who serve!

If you dont get past your feelings on this one and produce a legitimate explanation you can expect backlash from a lot of WoS fans from Poal. This will be discussed at the next podcast and I will be providing your response or lack thereof to the crew.

think- ago

You deleted the post about this in your own subverse.

No, he didn't. That was a lie. OP said @Vindicator deleted a post OP made on v/pizzagatewhatever.

When I first presented some of my findings in /v/PizzagateWhatever, he deleted it.

http://archive.fo/p6yAg

This is the banlog for that sub -

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/about/log/submission

The last post that got deleted there was submiteted 1.1 years ago.

The discussion thewebofslime mentions in his OP happened two months ago.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/3129367

http://archive.fo/HdezV

@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude @shewhomustbeobeyed @SandHog

I told him to contact PuttItOut, instead of smearing @Vindicator without any proof.

But apparently he never did.

mimes4peace ago

Link me the post in /v/pizzagatewhatever

You also answered none of the questions. Care to take a stab at any of them?

The fallacy being that one piece of minutiae does not do anything for the dishonesty on the part of @Vindicator

NOMOCHOMO ago

fuck that.

@Vindicator's falsehood can be chalked up to technical incompetence.

Claiming that a mod removed your post without any evidence seems far more egregious of a lie.

mimes4peace ago

I haven;t seen it. Im looking.

NOMOCHOMO ago

But notice the site isn't even in the post. Its still marked a security risk. @Vindicator is smearing @thewebofslime's brand. Even now.

it's marked "potential security risk"

if the owner admits he's cross referencing individual ip addresses that have accessed his site, to determine their identity, it is a potential security risk.

@thewebofslime also repeatedly says he will "fill in the blanks" to me that is easily interpreted as a veiled threat to reveal the IP addresses.

that's why you always use a burner device boyos.

mimes4peace ago

He is asking to fill in the blanks. There is a difference. Any owner would cross reference a security threat and fellow site owners would want to know about it to block the IPs. It is standard to share this information. I checked there are definitely hostile IPs in the list that are known. You can check yourself. Why wouldnt site admin here know about someone here who was doing bash attacks? Voat went down immediately after. Same attack? No one is asking whats up? Lets all ignore it?

NOMOCHOMO ago

Voat went down immediately after.

proof of that claim?

Also the site is not in the post. How is it still a security risk?

I do think that's a fair question/concern

mimes4peace ago

Its only in conversation that I found. You know how to search for a sticky about technical issues?

NOMOCHOMO ago

a link to that conversation would be a start.

you could use searchvoat to search for posts on that day or the day after to find confirmation of a voat outage.

also if there are significantly fewer posts that day, it's an indication the site was down

mimes4peace ago

In the previous comment from /v/Pizzagatewhatever

I was not able to get on Voat, last night and today is sporadic

Sometime between 3/30/2019 10:11:46 AM and 3/31/2019 6:50:26 PM

NOMOCHOMO ago

who made that comment? Can you find independent confirmation that is not WoS

mimes4peace ago

It is WoS. I saw someone mention there was a sticky but cant remember who. But if I knew where to search for that between those times then should be easy. Or find similar comments.

NOMOCHOMO ago

searchvoat.co

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

What am i looking for?

NOMOCHOMO ago

nothing, this just at least partially verifies WoS narrative that voat went down after his initial post claiming his site was probed/accusing Vindicator.

it doesn't prove anything, just a true data point in the WoS vs Vin debacle.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

The egos of some men, ffs.

This is why i disregarded his complaint the first time. As you know, VOAT is being worked on, and to think that this is all that would happen if he was really being fucked with.

Nonsense and shear jealousy, imo.

Too bad, i liked WoS, until he got all goofy.

NOMOCHOMO ago

The egos of some men, ffs.

agree

This is why i disregarded his complaint the first time. As you know, VOAT is being worked on

agree

to think that this is all that would happen if he was really being fucked with.

disagree. To say he isn't being harassed enough isn't fair. A temporary shutdown can kill posting and commenting momentum. It gives time for a counter narrative to be hatched before the information is disseminated too far.

buttttt It's also illogical to assume the two are directly connected unless timestamps make sense. Even then correlation =/= causation

I will still cautiously follow @thewebofslime, but my trust is shattered re: his claim that Vin removed his post from pgwhatever.

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

I never doubted that @thewebofslime was under attack. I just couldn't make the jump to blaming @Vindicator.

I do miss Wos POV, just not the paranoia. Got plenty of that on my own, thankUverymuch.

mimes4peace ago

My brain cells are dying. I think Ive got my head around it. Always takes me a good sleep to process info. So far I think a public voting option for subs that only is revealed when archived is the best solution.

NOMOCHOMO ago

idk if after archiving is necessary.

I think the claims that it will increase tension are irrelevant.

the tension will be the revelation of shills and their exposure. I dont want to wait weeks to find out I'm being brigaded