If you’re a troll and you want to disrupt a forum, how do you do it?
Most average trolls simply make inflammatory comments or spam. Obvious trolls are obvious. But if you’re a better troll, and you’re invested, then you can do a lot more damage.
Firstly, you need to be in it for the long con. You need to be prepared to invest a lot of time and energy. So this type of troll is highly motivated, either through financial remuneration or idealogical fervor.
Secondly, you need to be disciplined and smart. This is how I would do it, and I’m fairly certain it’s what Zyklon is doing:
To truly disrupt a forum, you need to create multiple accounts. Most people are pretty easy to out when they create new accounts. Most people find it hard not to be themselves, or to stay disciplined. But mostly it’s because they fail to create characters.
Characterization works like this. You create three or four different characters, each with its own personality. Everything that character does, is done through that characters prism. It’s responses, it’s motivations are all done in accordance with how that character would view the world. It’s similar to what an author does. Then it’s like playing an RPG. You become the LARP. You become the character. @Zyklon_b is just one character that this troll uses. The character is slightly over the top, because it’s easier to avoid confusion and crossover between characters this way.
Once you have your list of characters, you plant those characters into different factions on the forum. Then you build your characters, similar to grinding in an RPG. You contribute to each faction, become popular or well known. Over time you start to wield influence on the forum. Perhaps you take control of the forum. Then, you create DRAMA.
You have your characters attack one another, dragging in your friends. Over time you have gathered information on all the users in different factions, so you know what buttons to press! The forum devolves into a shit show, and most quality users leave. The troll has successfully killed the forum. (Think AntiRacists attack on v/niggers, SGIS, MYG, dial_indicator)
It’s my belief that this is happening on Voat. Take @Lauraingalls for example. The character is a little over the top right? While Zyklon attacks from SBBH, Laura stirs trouble in GA. Classic divide and conquer.
I’ve watched the Zyklon account for about four years. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. About three years ago, I caught him out. I was friends with another of his/her characters. The account was @i-am-me. It’s not important if you remember the account, what’s important was that this account was very convincing. The character was a young woman who was intelligent and depressed. She garnered a lot of sympathy and popularity. But then the user slipped up, and I caught out the account. That account was then rolled up and put on ice for six months. An effective memory hole.
At this time I had suspicions about both accounts, but I could not confirm anything. I laid a trap for the Zyklon account, and begged him to bring back @i-am-me. I said that I really missed her. His reply was I’m gonna bring her back. Two minutes later the account was back after a six month hiatus. I confronted him, and a few weeks later both accounts were deleted.
The Zyklon character came back after a few months. The I-am-me character stayed dead, perhaps too close to the real user?? Except it didn’t, because I think @katharzo may have been another realization of that character.
This is all getting a bit long and I’m trying not to make it confusing. This is the important bit; Over a long period of time the same pattern emerges!
The same characters cause the same types of drama and play out the same scenarios. I’m convinced that one person stirs drama on the v/realProtectVoat side, and the SBBH side. This user drags in all the other users that it’s convinced of the other sides ill intent. And suddenly you have a flame war.
Is it a stretch to imagine that someone like SGIS would have a SBBH account?
Some of the patterns I’ve recognized:
Zyklon character falls out with another character similar to the Zyklon character. Pictures are always posted to make it convincing. [Zyklon and Montblanc/ Beatlejuice and OzzarkMountainMan/ Zyklon and @cheesebooger]
The @i-am-me female character becomes popular. Pretty and vulnerable she gets a lot male attention. There’s some sort of fabricated drama and she quits. Pictures are posted to help with the perception of realism. [@KatHarzo and dialindicator drama, happened before with I-am-me and SGIS]
The MYG persona. Highly antagonistic and usually devolves into directly attacking Putt and Voat. Pictures are also posted.
The Zyklon character gets a girlfriend. The relationship ends tragically. How plausible is it that one drug adict on Voat gets multiple woman to dox themselves? [Current girlfriend @GothamGirl, last one @analisa killed herself. There was another girlfriend, she was Asian. I can’t remember the name]
The Zyklon persona is currently causing division and sperging out. It will eventually delete the account, and start over. We all know that people use alts, but this user is highly effective and convincing. This user is far more malignant and has infiltrated numerous subs.
I don’t know if I’ve made this any clearer?? But, humans are essentially pattern recognition softwear. I keep seeing the same patterns and the same characters. I think most people miss it because of the time frame..
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srayzie ago
This is some more from the group messages where Triggly is manipulative and causing division behind the scenes. Sound familiar?
Excerpts from the @Trigglypuff Shill Book
If you’re a troll and you want to disrupt a forum, how do you do it?
Most average trolls simply make inflammatory comments or spam. Obvious trolls are obvious. But if you’re a better troll, and you’re invested, then you can do a lot more damage.
Firstly, you need to be in it for the long con. You need to be prepared to invest a lot of time and energy. So this type of troll is highly motivated, either through financial remuneration or idealogical fervor.
Secondly, you need to be disciplined and smart. This is how I would do it, and I’m fairly certain it’s what Zyklon is doing:
To truly disrupt a forum, you need to create multiple accounts. Most people are pretty easy to out when they create new accounts. Most people find it hard not to be themselves, or to stay disciplined. But mostly it’s because they fail to create characters.
Characterization works like this. You create three or four different characters, each with its own personality. Everything that character does, is done through that characters prism. It’s responses, it’s motivations are all done in accordance with how that character would view the world. It’s similar to what an author does. Then it’s like playing an RPG. You become the LARP. You become the character. @Zyklon_b is just one character that this troll uses. The character is slightly over the top, because it’s easier to avoid confusion and crossover between characters this way.
Once you have your list of characters, you plant those characters into different factions on the forum. Then you build your characters, similar to grinding in an RPG. You contribute to each faction, become popular or well known. Over time you start to wield influence on the forum. Perhaps you take control of the forum. Then, you create DRAMA.
You have your characters attack one another, dragging in your friends. Over time you have gathered information on all the users in different factions, so you know what buttons to press! The forum devolves into a shit show, and most quality users leave. The troll has successfully killed the forum. (Think AntiRacists attack on v/niggers, SGIS, MYG, dial_indicator)
It’s my belief that this is happening on Voat. Take @Lauraingalls for example. The character is a little over the top right? While Zyklon attacks from SBBH, Laura stirs trouble in GA. Classic divide and conquer.
I’ve watched the Zyklon account for about four years. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. About three years ago, I caught him out. I was friends with another of his/her characters. The account was @i-am-me. It’s not important if you remember the account, what’s important was that this account was very convincing. The character was a young woman who was intelligent and depressed. She garnered a lot of sympathy and popularity. But then the user slipped up, and I caught out the account. That account was then rolled up and put on ice for six months. An effective memory hole.
At this time I had suspicions about both accounts, but I could not confirm anything. I laid a trap for the Zyklon account, and begged him to bring back @i-am-me. I said that I really missed her. His reply was I’m gonna bring her back. Two minutes later the account was back after a six month hiatus. I confronted him, and a few weeks later both accounts were deleted.
The Zyklon character came back after a few months. The I-am-me character stayed dead, perhaps too close to the real user?? Except it didn’t, because I think @katharzo may have been another realization of that character.
This is all getting a bit long and I’m trying not to make it confusing. This is the important bit; Over a long period of time the same pattern emerges!
The same characters cause the same types of drama and play out the same scenarios. I’m convinced that one person stirs drama on the v/realProtectVoat side, and the SBBH side. This user drags in all the other users that it’s convinced of the other sides ill intent. And suddenly you have a flame war.
Is it a stretch to imagine that someone like SGIS would have a SBBH account?
Some of the patterns I’ve recognized:
Zyklon character falls out with another character similar to the Zyklon character. Pictures are always posted to make it convincing. [Zyklon and Montblanc/ Beatlejuice and OzzarkMountainMan/ Zyklon and @cheesebooger]
The @i-am-me female character becomes popular. Pretty and vulnerable she gets a lot male attention. There’s some sort of fabricated drama and she quits. Pictures are posted to help with the perception of realism. [@KatHarzo and dialindicator drama, happened before with I-am-me and SGIS]
The MYG persona. Highly antagonistic and usually devolves into directly attacking Putt and Voat. Pictures are also posted.
The Zyklon character gets a girlfriend. The relationship ends tragically. How plausible is it that one drug adict on Voat gets multiple woman to dox themselves? [Current girlfriend @GothamGirl, last one @analisa killed herself. There was another girlfriend, she was Asian. I can’t remember the name]
The Zyklon persona is currently causing division and sperging out. It will eventually delete the account, and start over. We all know that people use alts, but this user is highly effective and convincing. This user is far more malignant and has infiltrated numerous subs.
I don’t know if I’ve made this any clearer?? But, humans are essentially pattern recognition softwear. I keep seeing the same patterns and the same characters. I think most people miss it because of the time frame..
zyklon_b ago
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