respectfully, you are promoting crensch's baseless attacks against users here, I am fucking sick of his unsubstantiated claims, maybe logic bested ya and you better enjoy his egotistical presumptions as users leave you will have to listen to his bs more
Jangles, when has @Crensch ever made "baseless attacks" or "unsubstantiated claims" against users? Please cite me examples!
Yes, he has kicked people's asses from time to time, but I have never seen him do so without evidence. We had a lot of disgruntled users unhappy with MF who complained about deletions without fully understanding either the reasons for deletions, or Voat site-wide rules and expectations. Some were shills, some were users, some had legit complaints but couldn't or wouldn't make them citing evidence. Many of these got Crensched because they looked like shills making baseless attacks on the mods. Crensch's job is to mod the mods. His style is generally caustic, but he doesn't nail people for no reason or without evidence.
The fact that you would claim this densely researched and documented thread that exposes serious malicious behavior on the part of ES and his sock puppets is a "baseless unsubstantiated attack" is very, very odd. Did you actually examine the evidence presented? Are you not concerned about the gaslighting and astroturfing that has been going on, the messages being pushed, or topics these accounts have tried to steer people away from?
@Crensch proved that EsotericShade runs the 'rarepeeks', he also has other alts like 'IPointOutTrolls' and 'DontTouchThePizza', and he obviously uses them for upvoat and downvoat brigading, which is not allowed on Voat.
@Cc1914 said they upvoated systematically, although they were not aware that this is not allowed (and I believe them). The same applies to user 3141......... .
So what exactly are @Crensch's 'baseless attacks'?
There is a very specific set of behaviours that causes me to call someone by that label. People are free to disagree with me, and I'll be polite and respectful of them holding their position. What I won't do is allow fallacies and unsupported claims go without addressing them in whatever way I choose to address them.
No, he hasn't. He never insulted me, even when I was still a normal user and had rows with the Os (lol).
He has always been a gentleman when interacting with me since I've become a mod, and has had my back. He always has been kind and emphatic and fair towards us mods, although I don't even share all or even many of his political views.
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jangles ago
respectfully, you are promoting crensch's baseless attacks against users here, I am fucking sick of his unsubstantiated claims, maybe logic bested ya and you better enjoy his egotistical presumptions as users leave you will have to listen to his bs more
Vindicator ago
Jangles, when has @Crensch ever made "baseless attacks" or "unsubstantiated claims" against users? Please cite me examples!
Yes, he has kicked people's asses from time to time, but I have never seen him do so without evidence. We had a lot of disgruntled users unhappy with MF who complained about deletions without fully understanding either the reasons for deletions, or Voat site-wide rules and expectations. Some were shills, some were users, some had legit complaints but couldn't or wouldn't make them citing evidence. Many of these got Crensched because they looked like shills making baseless attacks on the mods. Crensch's job is to mod the mods. His style is generally caustic, but he doesn't nail people for no reason or without evidence.
The fact that you would claim this densely researched and documented thread that exposes serious malicious behavior on the part of ES and his sock puppets is a "baseless unsubstantiated attack" is very, very odd. Did you actually examine the evidence presented? Are you not concerned about the gaslighting and astroturfing that has been going on, the messages being pushed, or topics these accounts have tried to steer people away from?
@kevdude
think- ago
@Crensch proved that EsotericShade runs the 'rarepeeks', he also has other alts like 'IPointOutTrolls' and 'DontTouchThePizza', and he obviously uses them for upvoat and downvoat brigading, which is not allowed on Voat.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2777433
@Cc1914 said they upvoated systematically, although they were not aware that this is not allowed (and I believe them). The same applies to user 3141......... .
So what exactly are @Crensch's 'baseless attacks'?
@Vindicator @kevdude @EricKaliberhall
jangles ago
has he called you a jew yet?
Crensch ago
There is a very specific set of behaviours that causes me to call someone by that label. People are free to disagree with me, and I'll be polite and respectful of them holding their position. What I won't do is allow fallacies and unsupported claims go without addressing them in whatever way I choose to address them.
jangles ago
Honestly your responses here are respectful and I was wrong in saying hordes have left voat because of you. sorry
think- ago
No, he hasn't. He never insulted me, even when I was still a normal user and had rows with the Os (lol).
He has always been a gentleman when interacting with me since I've become a mod, and has had my back. He always has been kind and emphatic and fair towards us mods, although I don't even share all or even many of his political views.
@kevdude @Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall