WhiteRonin ago

The op doesn’t bitch about @crensch, never, not even once!

kestrel9 ago

Right, because the thread is about @HeyGeorge I mean @sguevar

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sguevar ago

Interesting how you just pinged me now on this 7 day old thread you did to attack my character once again.

Well again your attempts failed poorly but you can certainly keep going...

heygeorge ago

The internet is exclusively and always will be serious business. @kestrel9 is demonstrating this fact via this post.

sguevar ago

Well to be honest, he is certainly showing the type of paranoia that other users from his group show. Now implying that I am an alt of yours just because I laughed at your post and comment about the "power of tits compels you" and because clearly he is putting some effort in looking for proofs that we are the same person...

Look the time he made this comment. 0.3 hours before mine and in which just 5 hours after I made this comment https://voat.co/v/guitar/3291507/19314568.

He clearly is trying to look for some inconsistencies on my character but fails poorly every time. I think he really thinks I am someone's alt despite the fact that I have proven many times I am myself and from Costa Rica. I have proven many times also that I am against using alts but he keeps on going.

Even @MadWorld that has apparently supported these attempts holds my information... This clearly is really a poor behavior from this group of people.

But well... they are free to go on with their slanders...isn't that right @kestrel9?

heygeorge ago

Even @MadWorld that has apparently supported these attempts

What do you mean?

sguevar ago

https://voat.co/v/ProtectGoats/3279704/19317370/10#19317370

He was one of the people I had copied the pm about the this post https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3280245 and instead of sharing his views he proceeded by commenting on this post that I was pinged to by the OP just yesterday and seems to support what this group is doing.

I contacted him about the address that was being doxxed and asked him whether he could find it on Voat at all. The address of GG was never shared by her on Voat. No link given. This is why when I called them out for what they were doing, they ganged up on me...

Since then he has gone silent on me. I have sent him several messages trying to consult him but have got no reply.

He could very well confirm that I have no alts but he stays quiet about that fact... why? I don't know. Guess like this group, they think I chose a side in favour of @kevdude... instead of making my choice for Voat.

heygeorge ago

The internet is exclusively and always will be serious business. @kestrel9 is demonstrating this fact via this post.

MadWorld ago

I strongly dislike the part where it said to sell it to Voat's userbase.

sguevar ago

If you had some feedback to give about the wording why didn't you do it before?

It is obvious that some of the people here will attempt to misrepresent what I was trying to accomplish but the fact that you didn't reply to the pm nor pinged me when this thread was made shows that you are now taking part of these people trying to discredit everything is said by misrepresentations and taking comments out of context.

Could you explain why is it that you have joined this effort from them to attack me?

Do you support their attempts at doxxing another user that never published her address here on Voat before?

Do you support that they use the same methods their counterparts used so they can shut them down?

Is it dialogue too hard to have?

MadWorld ago

If you had some feedback to give about the wording why didn't you do it before?

I strongly dislike discussions in secrecy when it comes to how Voat or its UA should be changed.

It is obvious that some of the people here will attempt to misrepresent what I was trying to accomplish but the fact that you didn't reply to the pm nor pinged me when this thread was made shows that you are now taking part of these people trying to discredit everything is said by misrepresentations and taking comments out of context.

Could you explain why is it that you have joined this effort from them to attack me?

I am not part of the group that may have tried to discredit you. I ran some numbers on my own. You unnecessarily sent me your IRL info about yourself. I took that as a red flag. Maybe you tried to get close to me, but I do not like to one day be responsible for the exposure of your identity. I also took the opportunity to look up your account history and found that your timezone did not seem to agree with your location.

Do you support their attempts at doxxing another user that never published her address here on Voat before?

Of course not, I am against doxxing of other users, aside from self-doxxing. Do you ever look at zyklone_b's all-is-art doxxing attempts while fixated your target on ScrubbinOutOldBlue's submissions??

Do you support that they use the same methods their counterparts used so they can shut them down?

I disagree with whoever is currently using this method to make a point, which you seem to have failed to understand. I do not have much faith in PV's objectivity or supposedly unbiased interests in protecting Voat.

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I contacted him about the address that was being doxxed and asked him whether he could find it on Voat at all. The address of GG was never shared by her on Voat. No link given. This is why when I called them out for what they were doing, they ganged up on me...

I have not look up or search on searchvoat for this specific address. Some doxxes are done on images, which are not really searchable.

Since then he has gone silent on me. I have sent him several messages trying to consult him but have got no reply.

I believe I have replied to your messages, with the exception of the recent ones, which were about the group discussion. The most recent one was just about how are you doing.

He could very well confirm that I have no alts but he stays quiet about that fact...

I do not know if you have or have not had any alts before. Some people are too smart to change to different writing styles. Unless the user is caught or has shown reasonable proof, I believe everyone deserves the benefit of doubt.

For the record, I do not have issue of someone using their alts, if they are not used for some ill intended purposes. However, I am strongly against the use of alts for things such astroturfing and consensus cracking. Take TWOS for example, using alt and main account within the same conversation to convince someone to verify certain things that he was supposed to prove.

Satisfied now? I sometimes go by a week or two, without checking my Voat account.

sguevar ago

I strongly dislike discussions in secrecy when it comes to how Voat or its UA should be changed.

This was done to make sure that we could reach a common ground and it could be proposed to Voat's user base as a way to achieve a closure on this whole matter. However when the post was made public you provided no feedback at all. Instead you proceeded to comment on a post that was created to slander me to which the OP of this post pinged me by mistake and then remove the ping after I called him out on his slander.

I am not part of the group that may have tried to discredit you. I ran some numbers on my own. You unnecessarily sent me your IRL info about yourself. I took that as a red flag

I did it because I trusted you and given the fact that this group keeps on attacking my character as a way to pursue their own agenda you as someone that can be objective on the matter can show them otherwise.

Maybe you tried to get close to me, but I do not like to one day be responsible for the exposure of your identity.

No, I called for your objectivity with proof showing who I am and that I do not use alts. And you are not responsible for such thing. The one responsible is me and me alone. The only thing I did was provide you with concrete evidence of what I have said in the past proving not only my consistency but also my honesty.

I also took the opportunity to look up your account history and found that your timezone did not seem to agree with your location.

Depends on what you are looking. For example when I am at work I am connected with a VPN when I am at home or on my phone it does show my location. So for example if you are looking at my account now, my location shows probably SF, CA.

Which I have confirmed also in the past and you are quite a good researcher to find that prove yourself. You are falling by the convenience of the same paranoia this group is engaging against me. This is why I sent you my info.

Of course not, I am against doxxing of other users, aside from self-doxxing. Do you ever look at zyklone_b's all-is-art doxxing attempts while fixated your target on ScrubbinOutOldBlue's submissions??

Of course I did, however I do not support engaging on the same tactics as your enemies to "win" your battle but losing the war and compromising Voat's integrity on the process, which this group managed to do in one single night.

I disagree with whoever is currently using this method to make a point, which you seem to have failed to understand. I do not have much faith in PV's objectivity or supposedly unbiased interests in protecting Voat.

Fair enough. My commitment was to try to change that perspective on Voat. I understand why many don't believe in it, but many applied guilty by association just because several of you don't like @kevdude (anymore or at all) instead of looking at what my post history shows, and the intent that I was aiming for.

I believe everyone deserves the benefit of doubt.

Good because it is what I have pushed for a while here and haven't received such an opened mind and eye from the part of this group that instead in engaging in dialogue proceeded by attempting to character assassinate anyone that they saw were standing between what they wanted to accomplish and Voat.

For the record, I do not have issue of someone using their alts, if they are not used for some ill intended purposes. However, I am strongly against the use of alts for things such astroturfing and consensus cracking. Take TWOS for example, using alt and main account within the same conversation to convince someone to verify certain things that he was supposed to prove.

Well I am against using alts in a whole because it opens the door to dishonest behaviors much like the oldblue alt engaged on as well as the type of behavior you are describing above. However that is the decision of the individual. How would I tell others to not use alts if I was using them myself? That would be hypocritical to say the least.

I am beyond that even at the expense of a poor effort to character assassinate me and try to attack my credibility.

Now as stated before, had you had any feedback, you could have very well provided feedback on the open discussions of the post that I made in private to both of the parties that were implicated in the whole matter. Because after all this parties were discussing situations and resolutions that would have implicated and affected all Voat's user base.

You will have to excuse my dislike on how you proceeded in that comment of yours. But I will not hide it. Does that makes me trust you less? No but I certainly disliked it because in the end, whether you see it or not, you put coal to burn on their fire.

Satisfied now? I sometimes go by a week or two, without checking my Voat account.

No not really. (Not regarding you) I am not satisfied with how Voat's current state of affairs is and will not be untill we reach dialogue to reach an agreement and move past from this that you can agree with me has gone way too far and for way too long.

WhiteRonin ago

Op is @crensch. Notice that he never attacks GA owner @crensch.

Dismember ago

Those were my words and I don't see what's wrong with it unless you are taking a popular saying and mistaking it for something else. To "sell your idea" means simply to present it to others and see how they take it. At least in my country that is how it's used.

kestrel9 ago

@WhiteRonin is Sherlock Holder, he used to run guns for Obammy

WhiteRonin ago

op is @crensch

ImJewish6000000 ago

So y'all on pizzagate spend your time getting triggered by jokes?