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Joe_McCarthy ago

Could you at least cite some evidence. I'm always happy to hear a counter argument, but just saying 'it ain't so' isn't really an argument.

As noted in the OP and elsewhere on this thread my purpose with the opener was not to go in depth but to introduce a discussion. A thorough, in depth study of a truly reputable nature involving Jews and the American media has not been conducted as far as I know (and it certainly isn't covered by cherry-picked internet memes we see on platforms like Voat) but some effort has been made to get to the truth here and is a useful debunking of the more outlandish claims and memes:

https://jasonbayz.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/demographics-of-the-american-media-elite/comment-page-1/

There are sociological surveys related to ethnicity and occupation in the US though. Ethnic Germans make pianos. Italians fish if I remember correctly. Jews are overrepresented as media personnel and in banking. But the data I've seen shows it to be well under 50%. I recall one textbook showing Jews at about 37% of media personnel in one survey. That dovetails pretty closely with the findings of the link I posted above.

No real counter evidence

Eh, I'd think that's of a nature where the evidence would fall more on the people making the claim. 'Jews rule the world' seems pretty out there for those with an education that includes some understanding of how complex systems work. 'The world' is one of the most complex systems of all.

But as noted elsewhere on this thread Mark Weber, the Nazi leaning Holocaust revisionist, cited evidence from the 90s showing Jews made up 11% of American elites.

http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/jewishlobby.shtml

And that's the US, mind, where they are known to have a large population and significant power. Suggesting they have power surpassing this in Japan, China, India, etc., or even Europe is simply stupid. Very unlikely too is that Jews would have increased their proportion of global elites, or even American elites, since the 90s to the tune of controlling the world.

Jews ruling the world is a stupid conspiracy theory with no real evidence and with evidence even to refute it as I have just demonstrated.

Who does then??

It may come as a shock but most central banks are owned by the state as one would expect.

Not really, but I'd like to know what you are basing this argument on?

I've looked into specific lists of senior governing bodies here:

https://voat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/2113109/10419306/10

The Central Committee of the Communist Party had about 6 Jews out of 26 members and the Council of People's Commissars (state as opposed to party and the first actual government) had one Jew (Trotsky) out of about 18, for example.

Any lobbyist group exerting influence is controlling policy. So this looks like a fallacy to me.

Social Security has been called the third rail of American politics because of the power of the AARP. They in some sense control policy in that key area because there are a lot of old people they have as members (far more than Jews in terms of numbers in the US). But to say they control the US would be quite doltish. The NRA has even finished ahead of the Zionist lobby in surveys of Washington insiders regarding the power of lobby groups in the US. Does the NRA control the United States?

http://www.timewarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/1999/11/15/fortune-releases-annual-survey-of-most-powerful-lobbying

ColonialCandle ago

Thanks for sharing this.

Is Israel our greatest ally?

Joe_McCarthy ago

Not in my opinion. Nor in the opinion of the American people:

https://voat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/2161682

ColonialCandle ago

Thank you