I know this will be a controversial topic, but as you all know, we’ve been programmed since we were born to believe what we were taught in school. The media and entertainment industry continue to program us.
Us red pilled Patriots do not just believe what we’re told. We’re no longer blind sheep. We do our own research and spread the word. So why not do the same when it comes to the Holocaust?
For over 2 years now, many people on Voat have said that the Holocaust was a lie. I’ve been researching the subject and found an awesome website about it on https://8ch.net/qresearch. I was up late reading this last night, and I am convinced now that we were absolutely lied to. I’m not saying people didn’t die, but the whole story is very different than we’ve been taught to believe.
There are tons of pictures included. It’s a very interesting read no matter what your belief is regarding the Holocaust. So for those of you that are curious, here’s the link...
https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
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Dragon40 ago
Utter bullshit.
Crensch ago
It looks to me like they have their affairs in order as far as supporting their position. What do you have to support yours?
Dragon40 ago
Millions of pages of history and decades of experience dealing with the racist morons pimping Holocaust denial. If you believe "they have their affairs in order," I have this nifty orange bridge for sale.
Crensch ago
So you have nothing but more claims? If there's all that evidence, it should be easy to pull some out to present to us, shouldn't it?
Dragon40 ago
I have the historical record. It speaks loudly. https://www.ushmm.org/, http://nizkor.org/, https://www.holocausteducation.org.uk/, the transcripts of the Nurnberg Tribunals (http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/trials, http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/nca/,http://nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/ ), the transcripts from the trial of Adolf Eichmann (http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/)...in short, several hundred thousand pages of proven facts. That seems like a good place to begin...
Crensch ago
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.2_Charter%20of%20IMT%201945.pdf
What does Article 19 say?
What does Article 21 say?
How would you like to be tried in such a "court"?
https://www.ushmm.org/
"KEY FACTS"
So what they're saying is two out of every three European Jews lived in Germany? Are you fucking serious?
Notice how they beg the question on "The Final Solution" inside of "fact" 1? When you number facts, do you couch other assertions in with them as if they're facts, too?
Dishonest people do that.
Oh, you mean those that are likely to be enemies and not part of the society in which they have invaded? How is this wrong?
ISRAEL DOES THIS. RIGHT NOW. THEY ADMIT IT.
Please tell me I don't actually have to analyze this one for you.
http://nizkor.org/
LITERALLY DISPROVES THE CLAIM IN YOUR PREVIOUS LINK:
http://nizkor.org/qar-complete.cgi Scroll down for a list of population by country. It looks exactly like this, sans my additions.
Why were the OFFICIAL numbers at Auschwitz dropped nearly 3 million? Why do these website you've linked now claim 12 million despite the camp that was 4 out of the 6 original million claimed no longer being claimed as having killed nearly 3 million?
Your sources are bad, and you should feel bad.
I can tell you just snagged any pro-holocaust links you could to throw at me. You did no research yourself. You know nothing of this subject.
Did you notice that your links all push "holocaust education"? Why are they pushing this narrative on our children? Is it because children in school have not yet reached the age of reason, where they would have the chance to mature to a point that they could reject absurdities like the ones above?
Did you ever grow out of that phase?
@blacksmith21
Dragon40 ago
Why were the OFFICIAL numbers at Auschwitz dropped nearly 3 million? False claim (I'm guessing you're trying to pass Foner off as a reliable source).
Foner's assertions are simply not true; although it is correct to note that the Polish Communist government did claim that four million people were exterminated at Auschwitz, historians (Feig, Reitlinger, Hilberg, et al.) have never supported that figure. Consider the estimates provided by Buszko at the end of his article on Auschwitz, which appeared in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust:
Of the 405,000 registered prisoners, 65,000 survived Of the 16,000 Soviet POW's, 96 survived Various estimates suggest 1.6 million were murdered
Speaking of Smoke & Mirrors, you followed up those Auschwitz whoppers with Why do these websites you've linked now claim 12 million despite the camp, that was 4 out of the 6 original million claimed overall, no longer being claimed as having killed nearly 3 million of the original 4? Smoke and mirrors. The 12 million figure is an estimate of the victims of Hitler's murderous campaign, not solely the number of Jewish victims or the number of victims of a specific camp. Millions of Polish Gentiles were also murdered by the NAZIs, and they were hardly Hitler's only Gentile victims. Smoke and mirrors.
Crensch ago
Foner? I'm telling you that's what was taught in schools. That's what the narrative stated for years.
Wait, so some JEWISH historians disagreed the whole time? Fancy that! Any documentation that they disagreed when 4 million was the number for the narrative?
Got a link to that? I'd LOVE to see if his words matched the narrative at the time.
Oh, we're back up to 1.6 million? How'd that happen? Why were there only 405,000 registered prisoners? Weren't the Germans meticulous record-keepers? Wasn't that also drilled into children in schools? Ruthless, efficient, and needed records of EVERYTHING and that's why they have "mountains" of evidence?
So you're arguing that they weren't?
Notice how you have to repeat yourself here? It's a Jewish persuasion tactic where you repeat yourself over and over again until people finally believe it. You can see for yourself that it works by finding people that believe CNN.
Nobody gives a fuck about what happened outside of those camps when they're talking about the Holohoax, moron. What he did OUTSIDE of those camps is not the issue. War happens. People die. The part that is FALSE, and hammered into our heads, is the death camps.
Nobody. Nobody is disputing that other people died. The claims of homicidal death camps is the only thing relevant.
That's like making a memorial for the whites in South Africa dying to the current genocide, and adding all the whites being killed by feral savages in the other countries of Africa.
Notice how you didn't bring up the Nuremburg trials in your response? Didn't like what you saw in that charter?
Dragon40 ago
Meaning that IF THEY DID NOT KEEP ACCURATE RECORDS, many, many of the lies of the holohoax pushers are not valid. The SS kept very accurate records (assisted, believe it or not, by IBM), as noted, so your statement is meaningless. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
Crensch ago
And did those records survive the war?
Dragon40 ago
Yes, SS records did survive the war, along with tons of other German documents. The documents offered as evidence during the First Nurnberg Tribunal were included in the "Red Set" and are widely available now that the Red Set has been republished. The Weiner Library (London) has an extensive collection, some of which is searchable online. The United States National Archives has Nazi Party and SS Records available on Microfilm. In addition, Sturmpanzer.com offers an extensive collection of microfilm. Similar data is available on genealoger.com, feldgrau.com, digitalhistoryarchive.com and elsewhere.