she has honeybee hooked in with the Gambino Family
Did she provide any actual evidence of that? From what I've had time to look into so far, she is prone to making dishonest, misleading statements to paint people she doesn't like in the worst possible light, which is completely unacceptable.
Sure enough, she provides ZERO evidence for any of her claims about Honeybee, or about Sawyer. It's just a big story based on hearsay, loaded with ludicrous claims that Honeybee is part of the Gambino crime syndicate, and Sawyer is filthy rich, a fraud and has never rescued a kid.
She goes after Hoffman because he apparently had a contract dispute with one of the people in his documentary. She shows a response letter from the attorney of the person, but no corresponding info from Hoffman. This is the only "spectacular evidence" presented that An Open Secret is "a shitty CIA front." She claims "In 2015, Gabe Hoffman threatened to sue one of the victims for outing Hoffman and his film as a fake" and doesn't address the breached agreement mentioned in the attorney letter at all. She gives no evidence the guy "outed" Hoffman, either.
This is really, really bad. Straight up hit jobs on multiple people trying to help kids based on rumor and innuendo. I can't believe anyone in our subverse supports this!
She has always been like that. I don't think there is anyone out there she hasn't attacked or accused of being a spook. Her rebuttal today was also weak as hell and didn't address most of the claims against her.
Hoffman is a hypocrite and I don't trust him at all. Same thing with Enty from CDAN. Gabe talks all this shit like he cares about helping and then goes on a 2-part podcast with Enty about the Singer shit and that's locked behind a fucking paywall. Then he pulls the same shit Fiona does and calls other people liars and frauds and slinging accusations around that come from suspect sources.
You would think that a guy who cares so much about protecting children and also has a friend that 'knows' all of hollywood's dirty little secrets might actually fucking do something to stop the pedos.
Yeah this appears to be about attention and money for most of these people, which is why I never followed any of them. The sheer lack of...seriousness...of most of what I read looking into this is quite telling. The lack of sources. The lack of evidence. The wild claims. The backstabbing. It's just wrong. No honor.
Agreed. I wonder what Kappy has to say about all of this. Looks like he did a periscope yesterday. I haven't watched it yet but might be something of interest in there somewhere.
Just watched. At 2:30 someone asks him if he thinks Fiona is a fake. He says "Well, Fiona accused some people that I know that are really good people of some really bad stuff. So..." rubs his mouth "that wasn't cool. So, I reached out to her about it and she hasn't gotten back to me since. So..." shrugs open-handed "do what you will with that." Mentions it again at 6:25 (but doesn't say anything new).
At 8:20, someone asks him if he has talked to Mikey. He says yes, and that he had to have emergency surgery and then had to move out two days afterward and may be homeless. A few minutes later he says it was really really shitty.
At 13:12 he's asked "have you seen the new Fiona Hit piece? it has like 1000 links and 80 pages....was definitely C..I..A". He says "I've seen some of it. It's not entirely accurate, I'll tell you that. I had some weirdo try to like get me to give up Fiona's address? ...I didn't go through the whole thing, though. To be honest, when she stopped...well, uh...David Shurter attacked me on Twitter -- which, by the way I don't have Twitter and I can't defend myself -- he said that Ella High and I were trying to set Fiona up. Which is fucking stupid and uh..." rolls eyes "didn't appreciate that and she was not online to like dispute that, so" shaking head "really dumb! Really dumb shit! So people are like 'Fiona Fiona' and I'm like" waves hand away dismissively "I reached out, she hasn't reached back to fix the situation," frown "so there we are. Like I would waste my fucking time to go to Australia to set up Fiona." Shakes head, closes eyes. "Ugh. So stupid." ...Really, the only victim I'm talking to is Mikey, 'cause...yeah.
At 17:03 they are talking about how many fakes there are and a guy says "Fiona is not 100%" and Kappy sucks a breath of his teeth, bobs his head back and forth in a yes/no manner and says "I have questions now after she slandered good people.
Interesting scope. I obviously have issues with some of the ludicrous claims that Kappy's made in the past, but, this is actually a rare time I find myself impressed by Kappy.
Not just with regards to Fiona, either.
He actually takes the time to mention Kutcher being so close to Scientology through Masterson.
Yeah. I think he is a genuine guy that really wanted to help but was completely unprepared for the push-back he received. He pretty much nuked any decent future employment opportunities for himself by doing what he did and the manner he did it in. He should have been smart enough to know that taking a troll pic of him with Brock would blow up in his face. It's just easy ammo to use against him and if he actually was working for Brock he would certainly have been aware of that.
Yeah, I watched it last night. Seems like he just wants to get away from all of it and move onto something else. He said he started a youtube channel and wants to start a podcast but I get the feeling that he'll move on from the pedo-related stuff. I think he was very naive about how things would go when he got in the spotlight by talking about Seth Green.
Why is she attacking anybody? THAT is the question. And why is she pushing blatant falsehoods to smear people? If she was attacking you the way she is attacking Sawyer, what would you want people following her to do?
I don't trust him either. I trust Fiona a fuck of a lot less though. Some very shady shit going n with her and her twitter army as I only recently discovered.
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Vindicator ago
Here's a deleted tweet from Barnett going after a whole bunch of people. This smearing is not the behavior of someone who cares about the kids.
new4now ago
https://fionabarnett.org/
if you scroll down a ways, you can find out why she going after some of these people
she has honeybee hooked in with the Gambino Family
this is getting thick
seems she is going by what someone told her and I think the fact most had blocked her
Vindicator ago
Did she provide any actual evidence of that? From what I've had time to look into so far, she is prone to making dishonest, misleading statements to paint people she doesn't like in the worst possible light, which is completely unacceptable.
new4now ago
as I said, she seems to be going by what someone said to her, check it out in the link
am finding other Fiona stuff, that in comments mention honeybee, but in a good way
seems she has grouped all of them because they know each other somehow
you need to read it yourself
Vindicator ago
Okay. I just read it. Here's the direct link to the hit piece. https://archive.fo/j5mv3
Sure enough, she provides ZERO evidence for any of her claims about Honeybee, or about Sawyer. It's just a big story based on hearsay, loaded with ludicrous claims that Honeybee is part of the Gambino crime syndicate, and Sawyer is filthy rich, a fraud and has never rescued a kid.
She goes after Hoffman because he apparently had a contract dispute with one of the people in his documentary. She shows a response letter from the attorney of the person, but no corresponding info from Hoffman. This is the only "spectacular evidence" presented that An Open Secret is "a shitty CIA front." She claims "In 2015, Gabe Hoffman threatened to sue one of the victims for outing Hoffman and his film as a fake" and doesn't address the breached agreement mentioned in the attorney letter at all. She gives no evidence the guy "outed" Hoffman, either.
This is really, really bad. Straight up hit jobs on multiple people trying to help kids based on rumor and innuendo. I can't believe anyone in our subverse supports this!
@think- @Sandhog
argosciv ago
LOL!
Wait till you see what I just found...
new4now ago
nothing solid, for sure
as for honeybee, she goes by info given to her by Michele Weingart
her cousin is married to honeybee's cousin ..... therefore
nothing solid
and Sawyer was part of the bust in Utah
The Vets are the ones that placed the ad on Craigs List
Something stinks for sure
think- ago
Which ad?
new4now ago
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/02/22/army-recruiter-among-7-arrested-in-sting-operation-to-fight-child-sex-crimes/
Vindicator ago
Has anyone actually confirmed that?
new4now ago
not that I know
there was Frank Costello, but he wasnt with Gambino
She's from Arizona
only place you see the names are on Fiona's twit
argosciv ago
I'm in the process of digging into this right now.
So far, bits and pieces of the claims check out, others not so much.
Yet to find anything at all linking Honeybee to Weingart.
SandHog ago
She has always been like that. I don't think there is anyone out there she hasn't attacked or accused of being a spook. Her rebuttal today was also weak as hell and didn't address most of the claims against her.
Hoffman is a hypocrite and I don't trust him at all. Same thing with Enty from CDAN. Gabe talks all this shit like he cares about helping and then goes on a 2-part podcast with Enty about the Singer shit and that's locked behind a fucking paywall. Then he pulls the same shit Fiona does and calls other people liars and frauds and slinging accusations around that come from suspect sources.
You would think that a guy who cares so much about protecting children and also has a friend that 'knows' all of hollywood's dirty little secrets might actually fucking do something to stop the pedos.
Vindicator ago
Yeah this appears to be about attention and money for most of these people, which is why I never followed any of them. The sheer lack of...seriousness...of most of what I read looking into this is quite telling. The lack of sources. The lack of evidence. The wild claims. The backstabbing. It's just wrong. No honor.
think- ago
This.
...and also this.
SandHog ago
I think sums it up pretty well.
SandHog ago
Agreed. I wonder what Kappy has to say about all of this. Looks like he did a periscope yesterday. I haven't watched it yet but might be something of interest in there somewhere.
Vindicator ago
Just watched. At 2:30 someone asks him if he thinks Fiona is a fake. He says "Well, Fiona accused some people that I know that are really good people of some really bad stuff. So..." rubs his mouth "that wasn't cool. So, I reached out to her about it and she hasn't gotten back to me since. So..." shrugs open-handed "do what you will with that." Mentions it again at 6:25 (but doesn't say anything new).
At 8:20, someone asks him if he has talked to Mikey. He says yes, and that he had to have emergency surgery and then had to move out two days afterward and may be homeless. A few minutes later he says it was really really shitty.
At 13:12 he's asked "have you seen the new Fiona Hit piece? it has like 1000 links and 80 pages....was definitely C..I..A". He says "I've seen some of it. It's not entirely accurate, I'll tell you that. I had some weirdo try to like get me to give up Fiona's address? ...I didn't go through the whole thing, though. To be honest, when she stopped...well, uh...David Shurter attacked me on Twitter -- which, by the way I don't have Twitter and I can't defend myself -- he said that Ella High and I were trying to set Fiona up. Which is fucking stupid and uh..." rolls eyes "didn't appreciate that and she was not online to like dispute that, so" shaking head "really dumb! Really dumb shit! So people are like 'Fiona Fiona' and I'm like" waves hand away dismissively "I reached out, she hasn't reached back to fix the situation," frown "so there we are. Like I would waste my fucking time to go to Australia to set up Fiona." Shakes head, closes eyes. "Ugh. So stupid." ...Really, the only victim I'm talking to is Mikey, 'cause...yeah.
At 17:03 they are talking about how many fakes there are and a guy says "Fiona is not 100%" and Kappy sucks a breath of his teeth, bobs his head back and forth in a yes/no manner and says "I have questions now after she slandered good people.
In only made it to 25:00.
argosciv ago
Watching this now too.
https://www.periscope.tv/IsaacKappy/1OdJrRZYRwOJX
Interesting scope. I obviously have issues with some of the ludicrous claims that Kappy's made in the past, but, this is actually a rare time I find myself impressed by Kappy.
Not just with regards to Fiona, either.
He actually takes the time to mention Kutcher being so close to Scientology through Masterson.
Props when they're due.
@Crensch @srayzie @Shizy @MolochHunter @new4now
argosciv ago
^ @kevdude @SandHog
SandHog ago
Yeah. I think he is a genuine guy that really wanted to help but was completely unprepared for the push-back he received. He pretty much nuked any decent future employment opportunities for himself by doing what he did and the manner he did it in. He should have been smart enough to know that taking a troll pic of him with Brock would blow up in his face. It's just easy ammo to use against him and if he actually was working for Brock he would certainly have been aware of that.
SandHog ago
Yeah, I watched it last night. Seems like he just wants to get away from all of it and move onto something else. He said he started a youtube channel and wants to start a podcast but I get the feeling that he'll move on from the pedo-related stuff. I think he was very naive about how things would go when he got in the spotlight by talking about Seth Green.
new4now ago
not at all, wonder what changed?
will see what you guys all came up with
very intriguing, was iffy on the camp, could see both sides, but if this is a big smear against him, he must have some interesting knowledge
thought he strange he was back in news, but followed the links you and shizy gave
was hoping for interesting comments, looks like a rabbit hole you fell in
think- ago
Craig Sawyer is fishy imo. I don't know why Fiona doesn't like him.
Unfortunately getting attacked by her doesn't automatically mean he's legit.
@Vindicator @SandHog
Vindicator ago
Why is she attacking anybody? THAT is the question. And why is she pushing blatant falsehoods to smear people? If she was attacking you the way she is attacking Sawyer, what would you want people following her to do?
new4now ago
and now she is being attacked
there hasnt been that many subjects where us goats took different sides, but given some time and more info, one side got burned
stay tuned, I think more will be coming out
his stories sound like a combination of many things I have read
his non profit is like the CF, they got busted working in states they did not register in
Corey Feldman...talk talk, nothing burger, then the fraud comes out
Confusion works wonders when your sitting on the fence
his reputation seems to be falling apart
easy to see he smack in the middle of what could be big news
Vindicator ago
Is there evidence of this? If so, please post it.
new4now ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2911539
https://www.nbc26.com/news/national/exclusive-clinton-charity-fails-to-disclose-fines-legal-settlements
maybe Sawyer hasnt been busted or fined yet, but allegation in first link is reminisce of the CF
Vindicator ago
Thanks for the links :-)
SandHog ago
I don't trust him either. I trust Fiona a fuck of a lot less though. Some very shady shit going n with her and her twitter army as I only recently discovered.
Vindicator ago
Indeed!
think- ago
I'm glad that you did the post about Fiona, Vin. Hopefully, we will be able to figure out a thing or two about some people.
Vindicator ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3016570/16608519