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15073744? ago

@srayzie, you've been on Voat for almost two years so I can't imagine you're surprised at the pushback you're receiving on the rule change in this sub. Notice how I wrote 'this' sub, not your sub?

While you may have started this sub, work to maintain it, and help it grow, it's still not your sub- it's the community's sub. Going against free-speech (what this site and community at large stands for) is beyond arrogant. Posting anything illegal is already against site rules.

I hope you reconsider the choice you've made.

srayzie ago

Where am I surprised at the push back? I didn’t have much push back. The majority agreed. So I don’t know what you’re getting at. I’ve been dealing with this in the right way. Talking to people I respect behind the scenes. I’m friends with many of the same people as you. I’m barely getting around to reading my notifications. If you knew me, you would know that I do have Voat’s best interest at heart.

I made this new post before I ever read your rude comment saying I’m arrogant. I have never even talked to you except an “lol” every now and then. If anyone is arrogant, it’s you coming over here and acting like you know what the hell you’re talking about. You don’t know the attacks the Q community is under. Someone has to make decisions and those decisions are sometimes hard to figure out. They aren’t “house wife” topics.

There were people promoting killing. Actually saying to go shoot certain groups. Last I checked, this wasn’t an Antifa sub. You don’t even know the story. You know what I posted publicly. You ARROGANTLY assumed you knew because you run a sub. The kind you run and the kind I run, are completely different. You would think as long as you’ve been here, you would know that. On subs like pizzagate and Q, where we get threatened, where I’ve had my family threatened, there is a lot of tough decisions Inhave to make. But, you don’t have a clue. Which is why you shouldn’t have came here talking shit without knowing facts.

15078352? ago

If you get this worked up over a mild criticism, perhaps you should consider modding v/kittens instead.

srayzie ago

Maybe next time you get so worked up that you think you need to come join the drama, turn on a soap opera and crochete a blanket.

15078533? ago

Q is fake.

srayzie ago

Oh so dramatic. Don’t you have some laundry to do?

15078579? ago

@Microchip is Q and you are a perfect example of why women shouldn't try to lead men.

srayzie ago

Seriously? Microchip is NOT Q and you’re making yourself look even more ridiculous now. I live and breathe Q and you’re telling me who Q is? This little theory was destroyed almost immediately. That just shows that you should not be making judgements when it comes to Q.

No, once again, you don’t know me. I’m good friends with @Crensch who appreciates your sub. I had respect for you because of what I’ve heard. But, you have no clue what it’s like to run a Q sub and you’re showing your ignorance by pretending to know about any of this.

I am old school. Married with kids. My husband leads the household. But I don’t submit to other mods on the Internet who think they know their shit so well that they come judge another. I thought you were classier than that. You really should stop trying to figure me out because you already don’t have a very good track record.

15078822? ago

I am old school.

Nah, you're a run of the mill boomer faggot.

srayzie ago

Lol no. I’m only @Trigglypuff’s boomer nan. I’m not really a boomer.

15079023? ago

Still calling in backup. Weak.

srayzie ago

“Still”? How is that backup? You’re not going to believe me when I tell you how it is. You obviously are very interested in me because you keep sending me messages. I figured I would help you figure it out. Maybe you are mistaking arrogance for me being a bitch. Yes, I am a bitch to people that talk shit. That one I will accept.

15079209? ago

I keep sending you messages? What?

Screen cap the messages for everyone to see. Please.

Edit: You're a fucking liar.

srayzie ago

I’m a fucking liar? I’m talking about comment messages. Not private messages. Geez lady. Maybe you need to mod v/kittens. You get worked up.

15079287? ago

Learn the difference btw a message and a comment. Q

srayzie ago

Empress is a C[u]nt
Q

15079522? ago

You can write 'cunt' here. Free speech!

srayzie ago

Duh. I say all kinds of shit. Once again, showing your ignorance. The only thing I don’t like is having people getting on here telling people to grab your guns. Kill. Them. Now.

How often do you get posts or comments promoting serious violence in your little house wife sub? Is your sub swarmed with paid shills, journalists, CIA, and anyone else that wants us to be quiet because we’re spreading truth? Main stream media and attacks from every direction because of some idiot that goes by Microchip? You need to stop baking so much and learn how the world works. Deep state doesn’t go after forums unless they are a threat. Take a red pill.

15079870? ago

You're just so important. A mod's job on Voat is little more than being a janitor and ensure Voat's community guidelines are being adhered to. Mods are not important on Voat you absolute dimwit.

srayzie ago

Ok then that gives you time to vacuum before bed then too.

15079924? ago

I proudly keep a clean and orderly home but thanks for trying to shame me for it.

srayzie ago

Well great! Thanks for calling me arrogant on our very first real conversation. Great first impression. Such a great role models for the younger generation.

15080121? ago

Calling an action a person takes 'arrogant' is not wrong, or bad, or degrading. Calling the person who criticized said action a 'cunt' and a 'bitch', is.

But with your head firmly fitted up your rear, I doubt you can tell the difference.

I've never said this to anyone but you are not mod material.

Crensch ago

Responding deep in this nest for convenience. @srayzie

First, an apology:

Empress was NOT going to comment to you, srayzie, because you're my friend. I just don't believe in that sort of thing. I told her to go ahead, since I didn't want her to censor herself on account of me being friends with you; I wanted her to say what she wanted to say. I never thought it would turn into a rivalry like this.

I'm sorry. To both of you. Truly.

I want to tell each of you why I admire you, but I'll speak to one about the other and vice-versa here in public where you both can see:

Srayzie, in PMs I was harsh with you today. The rule change is something that many mods have thought was a good idea at one point, and have been shown to be wrong about that in myriad ways. I was reminded of when I thought something similar might be a good idea. I remember my mistakes vividly, and the experience is very unnerving. I was harsh because I was unexpectedly unequipped to deal with what needed dealt with in real time. Again, to you, I'm sorry.

I imagine Empress was similarly affected. The fights goats have been through leave certain imprints that send similar situations straight to the trigger finger instead of to the mind to process. I won't pretend to speak for her, but in my case, it was entirely unintentional... I'd hope it's the same for her.

Empress has my admiration for creating her subverse from scratch in a Voat that didn't believe women could be good for anything. It was JUST around the time when a LOT of goats were getting Red Pill Rage about women fucking shit up. I think everyone at the time took shots at her and her subverse for weeks on end. She was called every name under the sun, and trolled by the goats and shills alike. Srayzie, you know traditional families are something the DS hates and wants to get rid of - Empress pushed her subverse through to become one of the accepted goatverses here, and something that nearly everyone on this site admires and appreciates. She's pushing for something good in her own way, and given what I know of her, that took a LOT of effort and perseverance to do.

She was also instrumental in helping Putt decide to keep the new account vote requirements by explaining to him how her subverse would be defenseless against the constant shills they were having to deal with.

Both of those accomplishments are HUGE, and I have extreme respect for her for following through.

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Empress, I first met srayzie in PG when ESOTERICshade decided to start attacking the mods, and she came along with him. I wrecked them both, and while she showed no signs of it, she didn't take it very well IRL. She was naive and misled from very early on by a user that specifically targeted new and naive users in order to manipulate them into believing the mods were all compromised and evil.

I don't know when it was, I didn't notice, but once Q came around, she made GA. She did this because PG wasn't too open to it, and the other Q subverse was low energy. At first I figured the Q thing would be another BS anon that would be outed soon enough, but it persisted, and GA started growing and getting front page submissions. I was curious, so I asked srayzie to help me understand Q, with the understanding that if I found it to be horseshit, I'd crusade against it until the narrative of the site was anti-Q. She didn't trust me, and admitted to being scared of me, but she tried to explain it anyway.

The details following are fuzzy, but the takeaway is this: With the evidence available, I came to the conclusion that Q is directly sanctioned by Trump, meaning I wouldn't be crusading against Q, and srayzie came to understand that she had been mistaken about me and the other mods of PG.

Srayzie started asking me questions about modding, and somehow wound up being well liked by a LOT of the goats I respect, and she found herself a mod of PV, and a mod of PG, too. Something about her personality or her behaviour made the users here both like and trust her. That's insane to me. Her rise to relevance is nothing short of meteoric, IMO.

Srayzie grew her sub to ~1200 if memory serves, which in pre-Q Voat is a HUGE amount. She took to asking me, kevdude, and Vindicator about modding and asked for our advice often. She went from being naive and thin-skinned, and thinking things were upside down to running a large, active subverse. She's toughened up, and made amazing progress since the time I Crensched her.

Srayzie, too, has been attacked by trolls and shills. Heavily. The kind that are likely very well funded and probably very dangerous. How she deals with them, and other issues, is nothing short of impressive.

She has been instrumental in outing many shills, including a very dangerous one that operated during the @she times, and planned on starting a coup recently. She has been attacked, directly, by thousands of Qtards from Reddit, and one of their hero bloggers, NeonRevolt.

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There's so much more I could say about both of you. I admire both of you, and think you're both perfect in the roles you play here on Voat. Empress is the best mod and the best spokesperson for TW like Srayzie is the best mod and spokesperson for GA. You're both AWESOME in my eyes, and I wish the two of you could both see each other the way I do, and see yourselves that way, too.

I didn't want Empress to behave differently just because I'm friends with srayzie. I didn't want that. I don't like it. I don't like that whole name-drop kind of mentality thing where you behave differently because X third party.

But I'm asking both of you right now. Please. For me. Start over. Introduce yourselves like nothing happened. Be cordial. You both run subs that have been attacked. You're both mods. You're both awesome mothers and wives. You're both awesome friends of mine. You're both deserving of respect for what you've accomplished here. You're not the same, and you won't be the same, and you won't address problems the same way, but I truly believe you two could eventually become friends. I would be so happy if that happened.

There aren't many goats, and there are even fewer goats that are mods, and I've gotten to know a lot of really great mods that can identify with the issues we all face.

And if that doesn't happen, or if it's impossible, maybe you two could just side-eye each other coldly.

I really did think that one day you would become friends, so if you're willing, give it a shot!

Vindicator ago

@srayzie @Empress

I just want to chime in here that Crensch is dead-on. You are both great-hearted goats who fight like Valkyrie for what you believe in. Both of you have created forums that help inspire and form people to be capable of living the liberty articulated in the United States Constitution. You've helped give my country a better future! :-) We need you both.

srayzie ago

Thank you @Vindicator! You know I feel the same about you. I told @Empress how much I couldn’t stand Crensch and Kevdude. Maybe we’ll laugh about this someday lol.

15178538? ago

I think we should start an ongoing over the top rivalry where we constantly insult each other's cooking and housekeeping skills. XD

srayzie ago

LOL. Well, that’s pretty much what me and @Shizy live for. She’s one of my besties here. So is @Think-

@MolochHunter created v/JellyPit4Mods so that us ladies could trash each other all we wanted. 😂

Feel free to join!

MolochHunter ago

@Empress you should know that @Srayzie is misrepresenting here - I created v/JellyPit4Mods so that the ladies could fight over my sexual favoritism

srayzie ago

True 😂 She seems really decent tho. Not like me and @Shizy 🤣 So I left that little nugget out haha

think- ago

@Empress, we actually need a good recipe for Cherry Crumble on v/JellyPit4Mods. But a recipe for Raspberry Crumble would also be acceptable! ;-)

@Shizy @MolochHunter

15180309? ago

I can make that happen.

think- ago

Aww....you rock!! :-) ;-)

@MolochHunter @Srayzie @Shizy @Crensch @Vindicator

MolochHunter ago

I'm curious about this

I have a strange sense that a post as wholesome as that might cause a void rift to open and swallow up v/JellyPit4Mods and all history and trace of it's data record

@Empress aaaaaaaaaaaand GO!

think- ago

LOL