I think this is some tactic from the left, but we have had a big increase in comments promoting violence. Even a couple of posts. The reason the left would use this is simple. Soros funds these groups.
There could be a false flag, where someone could go shoot a bunch of people. Then the media will start saying that this was some conspiracy theorist Q follower that posted on a hate speech forum. They would say something like the person was angry because we’re being taught all these lies from Qanon. Then they will try to have Voat taken down. They want to come after all of us.
So please guys, ping us mods when you see things like that so we can remove them. Posts AND comments calling for violence. But, not if someone is just being retarded and says they would like to kick someone’s ass. I’m talking about bringing up weapons and encouraging people to act. Some of you have really been helpful bringing things to our attention and we appreciate it.
If you are uncomfortable pinging, you can send us a message or send me a private one. We won’t share who gave us the information. We all have to protect Voat, so we can protect our right to have a Q community. Depending on the situation, if someone posts promoting violence, they could be banned.
Thank you guys! 🇺🇸
NOTE: Many people think this is the real reason Gab got shut down for like a week. They want a way to shut down the rest of us. Voat and eventually 8chan. It’s the perfect example.
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15073744? ago
@srayzie, you've been on Voat for almost two years so I can't imagine you're surprised at the pushback you're receiving on the rule change in this sub. Notice how I wrote 'this' sub, not your sub?
While you may have started this sub, work to maintain it, and help it grow, it's still not your sub- it's the community's sub. Going against free-speech (what this site and community at large stands for) is beyond arrogant. Posting anything illegal is already against site rules.
I hope you reconsider the choice you've made.
srayzie ago
Where am I surprised at the push back? I didn’t have much push back. The majority agreed. So I don’t know what you’re getting at. I’ve been dealing with this in the right way. Talking to people I respect behind the scenes. I’m friends with many of the same people as you. I’m barely getting around to reading my notifications. If you knew me, you would know that I do have Voat’s best interest at heart.
I made this new post before I ever read your rude comment saying I’m arrogant. I have never even talked to you except an “lol” every now and then. If anyone is arrogant, it’s you coming over here and acting like you know what the hell you’re talking about. You don’t know the attacks the Q community is under. Someone has to make decisions and those decisions are sometimes hard to figure out. They aren’t “house wife” topics.
There were people promoting killing. Actually saying to go shoot certain groups. Last I checked, this wasn’t an Antifa sub. You don’t even know the story. You know what I posted publicly. You ARROGANTLY assumed you knew because you run a sub. The kind you run and the kind I run, are completely different. You would think as long as you’ve been here, you would know that. On subs like pizzagate and Q, where we get threatened, where I’ve had my family threatened, there is a lot of tough decisions Inhave to make. But, you don’t have a clue. Which is why you shouldn’t have came here talking shit without knowing facts.
15078352? ago
If you get this worked up over a mild criticism, perhaps you should consider modding v/kittens instead.
srayzie ago
Maybe next time you get so worked up that you think you need to come join the drama, turn on a soap opera and crochete a blanket.
15078533? ago
Q is fake.
srayzie ago
Oh so dramatic. Don’t you have some laundry to do?
15078579? ago
@Microchip is Q and you are a perfect example of why women shouldn't try to lead men.
srayzie ago
Seriously? Microchip is NOT Q and you’re making yourself look even more ridiculous now. I live and breathe Q and you’re telling me who Q is? This little theory was destroyed almost immediately. That just shows that you should not be making judgements when it comes to Q.
No, once again, you don’t know me. I’m good friends with @Crensch who appreciates your sub. I had respect for you because of what I’ve heard. But, you have no clue what it’s like to run a Q sub and you’re showing your ignorance by pretending to know about any of this.
I am old school. Married with kids. My husband leads the household. But I don’t submit to other mods on the Internet who think they know their shit so well that they come judge another. I thought you were classier than that. You really should stop trying to figure me out because you already don’t have a very good track record.
15078822? ago
Nah, you're a run of the mill boomer faggot.
srayzie ago
Lol no. I’m only @Trigglypuff’s boomer nan. I’m not really a boomer.
15079023? ago
Still calling in backup. Weak.
srayzie ago
“Still”? How is that backup? You’re not going to believe me when I tell you how it is. You obviously are very interested in me because you keep sending me messages. I figured I would help you figure it out. Maybe you are mistaking arrogance for me being a bitch. Yes, I am a bitch to people that talk shit. That one I will accept.
15079209? ago
I keep sending you messages? What?
Screen cap the messages for everyone to see. Please.
Edit: You're a fucking liar.
srayzie ago
I’m a fucking liar? I’m talking about comment messages. Not private messages. Geez lady. Maybe you need to mod v/kittens. You get worked up.
15079287? ago
Learn the difference btw a message and a comment. Q
srayzie ago
Empress is a C[u]nt
Q
15079522? ago
You can write 'cunt' here. Free speech!
srayzie ago
Duh. I say all kinds of shit. Once again, showing your ignorance. The only thing I don’t like is having people getting on here telling people to grab your guns. Kill. Them. Now.
How often do you get posts or comments promoting serious violence in your little house wife sub? Is your sub swarmed with paid shills, journalists, CIA, and anyone else that wants us to be quiet because we’re spreading truth? Main stream media and attacks from every direction because of some idiot that goes by Microchip? You need to stop baking so much and learn how the world works. Deep state doesn’t go after forums unless they are a threat. Take a red pill.
15079870? ago
You're just so important. A mod's job on Voat is little more than being a janitor and ensure Voat's community guidelines are being adhered to. Mods are not important on Voat you absolute dimwit.
srayzie ago
Ok then that gives you time to vacuum before bed then too.
15079924? ago
I proudly keep a clean and orderly home but thanks for trying to shame me for it.
srayzie ago
Well great! Thanks for calling me arrogant on our very first real conversation. Great first impression. Such a great role models for the younger generation.
15080121? ago
Calling an action a person takes 'arrogant' is not wrong, or bad, or degrading. Calling the person who criticized said action a 'cunt' and a 'bitch', is.
But with your head firmly fitted up your rear, I doubt you can tell the difference.
I've never said this to anyone but you are not mod material.
Crensch ago
Responding deep in this nest for convenience. @srayzie
First, an apology:
Empress was NOT going to comment to you, srayzie, because you're my friend. I just don't believe in that sort of thing. I told her to go ahead, since I didn't want her to censor herself on account of me being friends with you; I wanted her to say what she wanted to say. I never thought it would turn into a rivalry like this.
I'm sorry. To both of you. Truly.
I want to tell each of you why I admire you, but I'll speak to one about the other and vice-versa here in public where you both can see:
Srayzie, in PMs I was harsh with you today. The rule change is something that many mods have thought was a good idea at one point, and have been shown to be wrong about that in myriad ways. I was reminded of when I thought something similar might be a good idea. I remember my mistakes vividly, and the experience is very unnerving. I was harsh because I was unexpectedly unequipped to deal with what needed dealt with in real time. Again, to you, I'm sorry.
I imagine Empress was similarly affected. The fights goats have been through leave certain imprints that send similar situations straight to the trigger finger instead of to the mind to process. I won't pretend to speak for her, but in my case, it was entirely unintentional... I'd hope it's the same for her.
Empress has my admiration for creating her subverse from scratch in a Voat that didn't believe women could be good for anything. It was JUST around the time when a LOT of goats were getting Red Pill Rage about women fucking shit up. I think everyone at the time took shots at her and her subverse for weeks on end. She was called every name under the sun, and trolled by the goats and shills alike. Srayzie, you know traditional families are something the DS hates and wants to get rid of - Empress pushed her subverse through to become one of the accepted goatverses here, and something that nearly everyone on this site admires and appreciates. She's pushing for something good in her own way, and given what I know of her, that took a LOT of effort and perseverance to do.
She was also instrumental in helping Putt decide to keep the new account vote requirements by explaining to him how her subverse would be defenseless against the constant shills they were having to deal with.
Both of those accomplishments are HUGE, and I have extreme respect for her for following through.
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Empress, I first met srayzie in PG when ESOTERICshade decided to start attacking the mods, and she came along with him. I wrecked them both, and while she showed no signs of it, she didn't take it very well IRL. She was naive and misled from very early on by a user that specifically targeted new and naive users in order to manipulate them into believing the mods were all compromised and evil.
I don't know when it was, I didn't notice, but once Q came around, she made GA. She did this because PG wasn't too open to it, and the other Q subverse was low energy. At first I figured the Q thing would be another BS anon that would be outed soon enough, but it persisted, and GA started growing and getting front page submissions. I was curious, so I asked srayzie to help me understand Q, with the understanding that if I found it to be horseshit, I'd crusade against it until the narrative of the site was anti-Q. She didn't trust me, and admitted to being scared of me, but she tried to explain it anyway.
The details following are fuzzy, but the takeaway is this: With the evidence available, I came to the conclusion that Q is directly sanctioned by Trump, meaning I wouldn't be crusading against Q, and srayzie came to understand that she had been mistaken about me and the other mods of PG.
Srayzie started asking me questions about modding, and somehow wound up being well liked by a LOT of the goats I respect, and she found herself a mod of PV, and a mod of PG, too. Something about her personality or her behaviour made the users here both like and trust her. That's insane to me. Her rise to relevance is nothing short of meteoric, IMO.
Srayzie grew her sub to ~1200 if memory serves, which in pre-Q Voat is a HUGE amount. She took to asking me, kevdude, and Vindicator about modding and asked for our advice often. She went from being naive and thin-skinned, and thinking things were upside down to running a large, active subverse. She's toughened up, and made amazing progress since the time I Crensched her.
Srayzie, too, has been attacked by trolls and shills. Heavily. The kind that are likely very well funded and probably very dangerous. How she deals with them, and other issues, is nothing short of impressive.
She has been instrumental in outing many shills, including a very dangerous one that operated during the @she times, and planned on starting a coup recently. She has been attacked, directly, by thousands of Qtards from Reddit, and one of their hero bloggers, NeonRevolt.
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There's so much more I could say about both of you. I admire both of you, and think you're both perfect in the roles you play here on Voat. Empress is the best mod and the best spokesperson for TW like Srayzie is the best mod and spokesperson for GA. You're both AWESOME in my eyes, and I wish the two of you could both see each other the way I do, and see yourselves that way, too.
I didn't want Empress to behave differently just because I'm friends with srayzie. I didn't want that. I don't like it. I don't like that whole name-drop kind of mentality thing where you behave differently because X third party.
But I'm asking both of you right now. Please. For me. Start over. Introduce yourselves like nothing happened. Be cordial. You both run subs that have been attacked. You're both mods. You're both awesome mothers and wives. You're both awesome friends of mine. You're both deserving of respect for what you've accomplished here. You're not the same, and you won't be the same, and you won't address problems the same way, but I truly believe you two could eventually become friends. I would be so happy if that happened.
There aren't many goats, and there are even fewer goats that are mods, and I've gotten to know a lot of really great mods that can identify with the issues we all face.
And if that doesn't happen, or if it's impossible, maybe you two could just side-eye each other coldly.
I really did think that one day you would become friends, so if you're willing, give it a shot!
srayzie ago
Thank you @Crensch.
@Empress Crensch has talked about you and what you’ve accomplished in the past. He respects you. That’s why I was really surprised that you could come say what you did to me. I figured you would know the struggle it can be when you have everyone writing you, upset from both directions and it’s on your shoulders to figure out what to do.
First let me explain why I made the decision I did...
I was trying to respect Voat, but also respect the Q movement. Whether you believe in Q or not, the deep state fears it. There will be a False flag, and what they will do is say the person was a user on some alt right forum that believed in some “conspiracy theory”, which made them motivated to go shoot or kill people.
Before, it was pizzagate. Q is like Pizzagate on steroids. Q took pizzagate mainstream. It’s not exposing just pizzagate, but a broad range of deep global corruption that is just shocking. ((( They ))) want to shut us up. They aren’t fighting us so hard for no reason. They mean business. Here are a couple of examples.
This was my first experience seeing something like this unfold before my eyes.
'Pizzagate' shooter sentenced to 4 years in prison
Then we pretty much expected this would start...
QAnon, the Crazy Pro-Trump Conspiracy, Melts Down Over OIG Report
You get the idea. Well recently, the following happened and suddenly Gab was shut down for like a week...
[How Conspiracy Theories Can Kill](https://www.adl.org/blog/how-conspiracy-theories-can-kill
Then they added the following, which is how they would describe us...
Then they went on to say that the next week is when those 15 mail bombs were sent out to politicians, George Soros, etc. (It was one of the most obvious of false flags)
Their plan, is not only to make us look like crazy conspiracy theorists so that the average person won’t believe the research and truth we put out there that shows their corruption. They also want to get free speech shut down. We expected Reddit’s Q sub would be banned. Just like they banned pizzagate and other Q subs there. Most migrated here. We’re next. Even Q has told us that they are coming after free speech sites. They are also after 4chan and 8chan.
So we have this amazing free speech forum. Day in and day out we see these sick fucks get away, with literally murder, and we know that the best way to get Q and Voat shut down, is to have a poster here making threats and saying they are gonna go kill some group and then when it happens, the government finds a way to get us all shut down too. They want to change laws that target groups like us. It’s only going to get worse.
Well this past week, we’ve noticed a sudden rise in people promoting violence. We were told the other Q subs were getting them too. Not the regular gas the Jews type posts. [But ones like these.](https://images2.imgbox.com/de/86/oSatyrZ0_o.jpeg We can see it coming. I had people writing me. People are upset. So I made the post hoping to avoid that from happening. Hoping if we removed posts like that right away, it couldn’t be used against us.
Well, obviously I fucked up. @Kevdude wrote me and told me I should change it. Him and @Crensch are the 2 that have helped teach me Voat culture and how to handle this. I wouldn’t have survived. Not with the shit that flies my way. I would have gotten rid of so many fuckers on here if it weren’t for them continuously putting me in check. I know they only do it because they care about Voat and for the movement.
I thought I had the censorship portion all figured out by now. But thought these threats are way too specific. Naming a group or family? So I disagreed with Kevdude and was pissed. I didn’t think of the part where they could just hurry and archive it. Plus, I knew the other Q subs wouldn’t be worrying about Voat. So I asked Crensch. He agreed with Kevdude and I know he knows their plans to get us taken down.
People were sending messages and telling me about posts or comments that should be removed yesterday and I had to ignore it. I thought hard about what I should do because I felt that Q is all about unity, no division, and no violence. I’m not the type to just do something if I disagree with it. So me and Kevdude can go round and round.
Anyway, it literally took up almost my whole day and my husband was off and not very pleased. I’m not the type that can go about my day when something serious like this needs to be dealt with. So, it was just a really fucked up day. I finally got it posted and told my husband I was finally done. Except I knew that I would have a fun night of assholes telling me off for changing the rule.
That’s when I saw your message. I didn’t care about all the others that wrote me pissed off. But it bugged me when you did. Since I knew how you worked hard to build your own sub on a place like Voat, especially being female where we get attacked for that alone, I guess I just thought you would get it, or at least know that my intention wasn’t bad.
I’m sorry I was a bitch. I felt attacked so I attacked you. Before I read what Crensch said, I already felt bad and thought about apologizing. I didn’t grow up with a mom. So I really respect women that are the type of wife and mother that I wish my mom would have been. I never learned how to be so I am definitely not the typical soccer mom type or the type that enjoys baking. BUT, I admire those that are. I wish I would have learned early on and maybe I would be that way too.
I shouldn’t have been mean and said those things to you. I didn’t mean them. I was just in a bad mood, already felt attacked, my notifications were a mixture of people mad and happy about the first post changing the rule. Then I had to tell the ones that were happy, that I was changing it back. I made the post, and you were the one I took it out on. I don’t like how you handled it and judged me before knowing the situation. But you didn’t deserve me putting you down. So I’m truly sorry for the things I said.
15084310? ago
Apology accepted and I apologize for not being more sensitive when delivering criticism. I don't sleep often these days and can be irritable myself.
srayzie ago
Thank you.
15084928? ago
and to you the same. Have a nice day.
srayzie ago
Thanks! You too.