Q claims that the whole reason we discovered that the N.S.A. had been spying on normal Americans is that the C.I.A. leaked it to destroy the credibility of the N.S.A. and get them defunded and/or removed. This was in retaliation of the N.S.A. discovering that the C.I.A. has been behind pedophile rings around the world supplying children and using it as mass blackmail and brownstone operations in order to film politicians and other people of interest to rape children. Edward Snowden was never even an N.S.A. agent but a C.I.A. agent.
""The battle between the CIA and the NSA became public again when the CIA set up a sting that uncovered that Cisco Systems, a DARPA company, has built-in back doors on all their routers so that the NSA can spy undetected. The main stream media was even given videos of Cisco employees installing the backdoors in routers. The CIA found out about the back doors and made the information public to stop the NSA’s hacking of the CIA systems.”
https:// www. linkedin.com/pulse/three-factions-cia-control-world-covert-fvey-alliance-michael-holt/ (Voat says banned domain for some reason so just copy and paste the link)
"The NSA has the global surveillance capabilities to intercept all the DNC and Podesta emails. CIA is college grads only and has the traditions of the urban yankee northeastern and east coast ivy leaguers, “Blue State”, liberals. CIA hacks and has a cyber capability too according to VP Joe Biden. What if the NSA leaked the emails to Wikileaks to help Trump? What if the CIA discovered NSA was leakin emails? What would they go and do about it? Go to the FBI? Go public? What if they ain’t able to go public because they themselves are in violation of some domestic law? Enter the shadow brokers. I rekon the shadow brokers is CIA.What if the shadow brokers incident is CIA tit-for-tat retribution against NSA email leaks? Hack or steal NSA tools? Embarrass them? Get them broken up, fired? Sounds far fetched? Clapper and Carter tried to get Rogers fired. They also called for the breakup of NSA."
""In retaliation against the NSA, the CIA chose Edward Snowden, who was working for the CIA through Booz Allen Hamilton, to release stolen NSA documents that proved the NSA was illegally spying on Americans through computers, phones, and many other electronic devices. Snowden didn’t work for the NSA and did not have access to NSA files though he released a huge amount of data that confirmed the NSA’s surveillance. Michael Alperovitch’s CIA handlers ordered Snowden to turn over the NSA’s PKI encryption codes so that the CIA could enter the NSA’s system and steal the files needed to prove the NSA’s illegal surveillance. Snowden did not personally have access to those codes nor the information in the NSA system as part of his job."
https://medium.com/@CleetusBocefus/new-theory-shadow-brokers-incident-is-a-deep-state-civil-war-between-cia-vs-nsa-3fdc2bdec59b
If this is true, the N.S.A. are at war with the C.I.A. Do we have whitehats with the N.S.A. and the F.B.I.? I know the F.B.I. vs C.I.A. rivalry has been spoken about on these forums and even written about in media.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge:_The_Secret_War_between_the_FBI_and_CIA
Since the C.I.A. gets International status they can just tell the F.B.I. to cease investigations and that they have no jurisdiction. I know for sure the C.I.A. is only a quasi government agency. They are the ones creating these pedophile brownstoning rings. Operation Mockingbird, Operation Paperclip, MKUltra these are all C.I.A. operations. Could this "government agency" actually be rogue and the U.S. Government in a secret civil war? Lamplight brought the topic of but if someone can help find the original Q post that would be great.
Lamplight mentioned it here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2415622/12037259
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2415622/12037220
Remember when people said they actually saw a flash and something explode over the skies of Hawaii?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_b4SZ-BjE
It was said Military and Intelligence officials working with us thwarted what would of been the worst terrorist attack on American Soil ever seen. I want to know who these whitehats are. I'm wondering if that's the N.S.A.? Would make sense since they have more authority than the F.B.I. does and besides the mass spying that came up we don't hear of these atrocities and trafficking rings selling children and drugs occurring within the N.S.A. we hear them coming out of the C.I.A. I think the C.I.A. has so much dirt on the rest of the government it's essentially holding them hostage and is completely rogue. Two C.I.A. whistleblowers have come out saying what they have did.
Robert Steele says is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demrKHR0TY4
Kevin Shipp says it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjknH9ZlN8U
All three were C.I.A. agents who admit it.
Rumors have been going on a full shootout apparently happened in Lower Manhattan between N.S.A. and C.I.A. agents when the C.I.A. tried to raid an N.S.A. secure operation site.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2199.htm
http://drwilliammount.blogspot.com/2017/01/cia-attacks-nsa-in-manhattan.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBdwOCMSCAw
This being the location:
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/16/the-nsas-spy-hub-in-new-york-hidden-in-plain-sight/
So is there a civil war going on within the U.S. Government with the C.I.A. having gone rogue?
Q is Military Intelligence and mentions several times the N.S.A. on our side. N.S.A. is Military Intelligence.
https://qmap.pub/read/1661
https://qmap.pub/read/66
https://qmap.pub/read/1002
https://qmap.pub/read/395
https://qmap.pub/read/1661
https://qmap.pub/read/2187
https://qmap.pub/read/1935
Q said they attempted to "Snowden II" the N.S.A.
https://qmap.pub/read/2186
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pepefrogjr ago
if NSA is white hats why would they spy like 100 % of earth population ?
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redtoe_skipper ago
Check the Q drops around Nov 8-20, 2017. Q says cia lost.
Coincidence or maybe false reporting, I dunno, but there is a report that on Nov 20 2017, a few marine planes were in Langley.....
RedPill-U ago
Well done sir! Everyone should read the article by Michael Holt, the first link cited by the OP.
https:// www. linkedin.com/pulse/three-factions-cia-control-world-covert-fvey-alliance-michael-holt/
TrustTheTruth ago
Q is a False Prophet perpetuating the War against Humanity.
There are many layers of infighting through the entire Global network.
None of them are GOOD, and none of them are TRUSTWORTHY.
The Rule of Law is DEAD. Equal Protection under the Law is DEAD.
Those involved at the top levels are beyond the scope of ANY law.
Justice is an ILLUSION. Freedom is an ILLUSION. Voting is an ILLUSION.
THE TRUTH IS THEY ARE ALL PART OF THE REAL AGENDA MOVING TOWARD ETERNAL ENSLAVEMENT.
If Q cared about The People, Q would Reveal where The Real Truth.
The Truth is The Only Way.
bulrush ago
Yes but it's a quiet war behind the scenes.
Who is RDS?
MrMysterious ago
RDS is disinfo and a conman. Shipp seems credible enough. With RDS he had the whole unrig debacle, lied about his connections to Cynthia McKinney, and is very neurotic if you watch his behavior. (especially when challenged he becomes unhinged) RDS consolidates the rumors on the internet and then takes whatever specific topic he is on at least a step farther than what is out there so he seems like a "better" source than what is out there. That is how he got into the child sex slaves on Mars debacle... he was taking everything farther to give ammo to those trying to discredit. (this is a well-known disinfo technique) It's in everyone's best interest not to build any arguments of the points they are trying to make on what RDS says... it builds in a weakness to the argument people can attack. As far as OP I am not saying what is theorized is wrong, just warning about using RDS for anything.
Rhondaher ago
I never felt RDS wss credible. I quickly discerned the guy either didnt know what he was talking about or was disinfo. Good observation.
MrMysterious ago
Yeah if you look into it, it becomes more obvious. His neurotic behavior and emotional instability is kinda a dead giveaway as well.
JackBeowulf ago
Q team is NSA.. see NSA q department, security/intel.
PS- 85 % of cia is black hats where NSA only has about 20 to 25%, and since they report to DIA/Military the turnover/transfers and security checks prevents deep moles/black hats. or is supposed to. There has always been issues between NSA and CIA. Most people didn;t even know NSA existed until 1980. even with the church commission. JMO, the NSA is bad, but the CIA is evil. Deal with Langley first, then change or put new parameters into DIA to make sure NSA black hats are kept in check.
Pollycracker ago
Led by George HW Bush and his rogue assassin teams.
Neinlife ago
All three letter agencies can fucking go to hell. Secret Service are the good guys. The rest can fuck right off with their god damned kike overlords.
Pollycracker ago
Yea, but Kennedy and Reagan would disagree with you on the secret service.
Neinlife ago
Like i said im just being hopeful on that one. I hope they are on our side.
FreedBy45 ago
Secret Service are hopefully all cleaned out now. Remember Q's post asking why Donald Trump Jr. dropped his SS detail. Look at SS man who was ordered to pull back from walking by the side of JFK's car. Also, Trump has his OWN security in addition to SS. The cabal has infiltrated everything - apparently including SS. Imagine Trump & Q team have cleaned out dirty SS players.
madhatter67 ago
This....wasn't there speculation with regards to USSS being comped early on in Q drops....red castle or something? I'd hope they are now cleaned up
MatildaQ ago
I remember a USSS DS goon who was accompaning the small son of Donjr home from Washington and the little fellow fell asleep. He woke suddenly to find that the bloke was sitting beside him taking ‘selfies’ of him. The child was distressed and Vanessa? called the President straight away. It was also Vanessa that opened that letter with white powder in it and taken to hospital. Only in the last week, War Drummer decoded a threat to POTUS that if he kept going any deeper, Barron would be in their sights.
FreedBy45 ago
Thanks for pointing me to War Drummer. Was unaware of (((their))) most recent threat.
Neinlife ago
Im tossing some faith at it. Admittedly. When the one chick was outted for saying she would not do her job i figure that caused some house cleaning.
I hope.
grace8 ago
Truman was manipulated into creating the CIA. Roths immediately started giving them extra funding and they have always served their needs not he USA's. They were rogue right from the start. NSA has been cleaned out and is now white hat according to early Q post. The Roths always sought to control US and killed presidents who opposed them and the Federal Reserve. Maybe I will post more on this later. I wrote a long post with lots of sources and poof its gone while proof reading.
Military Intelligence is a DOD program. The NSA is not military intelligence.
Ishahn ago
nice info!
nubbyhubby ago
I would definitely say "Turf war" the only problem is they probably have enough dirt on each other to eliminate all agencies. I am sure there only a handful of honest politicians and powerful people. If not personally dirty close family ties that can be used as blackmail.
1scm ago
Admiral Rogers was the man of the hour when he blew the whistle on the illegal activities and wisely secured the paper and digital trail. The key intel people since Trump took office are all military (MI). He only takes their intel briefings. There was a major raid by the military on the C_A a year ago where massive amounts of evidence was taken in Langley allowing MI to connect all the dots. Since Gina Haspel has taken over, the agency reports to MI and is no longer a branch outside the constitution. The deep state is rogue elements from not only this agency, but others. Their infrastructure has been decimated (all comms satellites), their drug plants bombed, etc etc. But they are not finished. All of the false flag ops we are seeing weekly are set up by deep state remnants, they all failed, including the MK Ultra (Christine Ford) woman from the Kavanaugh hearings. It will take time to remove them all.
57005-177 ago
Great job on your research, never thought about it that way before. I always thought they were rivals in some kind of turf war.
JackBeowulf ago
they are.
Blacksmith21 ago
You just realized this?
gamepwn ago
No I've known grabbing different sources together.
gamepwn ago
No ESOTERICshade shilled my first thread when I created this months ago with multiple alts. I added research and wanted others to look at it. You and I both know god forbid you drop any Q related stuff on the Pizzagate sub they vote manipulate it.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2420295
TheJester77 ago
Excellent work!!!
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