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SYNCORSWIM ago

Then how did NYPD view the contents if it wasn't in their possession? I remember NYPD chief saying that as a father what he saw on the laptop turned his stomach.

Hopevoats ago

As much as I hope this is true, that story came from an unconfirmed source in a publication with questionable credibility. It was latched onto and spread far and wide.

youllrememberme3 ago

OP is the shill Are_We_Sure. Share blue must have thought they had it covered up, but they forgot at least one source that confirms the NYPD was involved.

http://archive.is/qbPN3

KnightsofHubris ago

Is this why all my comments are like this?

Let me clear some things up for you. You're wrong on the forum and wrong on the case. I made a post earlier where I laid out the timeline that addresses this issue.

Your source is correct the NYPD announced an investigation of Anthony Weiner on Sept 22. and there's tons of sources on this. All the NY press covered this https://nypost.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigating-weiners-sexting-relationship-with-teen/

However your conclusion that this confirms the NYPD is involved is wrong.

They are separate investigations. The NYPD did not subpoena the laptop and they did not get the laptop from Weiner.

The feds did subpoena the laptop and the FBI did seize it. This was confirmed today.

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2550145/12793188

Here's the time line.

Weiner sexting with the girl breaks in British press. The daily mail article is dated Sep 21, 2016

Sept 22 Feds announce they are investigating

Sept 22 Locals announce they are investigating

Sept 23 Weiner turns over his devices to a security firm. This date is mentioned in the unsealed documents today.

My educated guess is that Weiner's lawyer knew a subpoena was coming. The Feds may have even asked the lawyer to make sure he preserved evidence. Weiner is not named anywere in the warrant. He is called the Target Subject. The security firm is named in the warrant.

Sept 26 This warrant is signed by a judge at 2.57PM

The warrant only allows the FBI to go the security firm, Granite Intelligence. LLC. So there was obviously some discussion with Weiner's lawyers if the FBI knew the laptops were given to a third party.

So when does the NYPD get the laptop? The original pizzagate stories claimed the FBI got the laptop FROM the NYPD. This is false.

The chain of possession is Weiner > Granite >FBI.

This means any story that the NYPD seized the laptop and the laptop was then taken from the NYPD by the FBI is false.

I don't see any other conclusion here.

youllrememberme ago

Your source is correct the NYPD announced an investigation of Anthony Weiner on Sept 22. and there's tons of sources on this. All the NY press covered this

So the NYPD investigated Weiner for sexting without pulling a warrant to search his devices? LOL Do you recognize how stupid you look right now, Are_We_Sure. Game over with this alt.

Chimaira92 ago

the NYPD was involved.

That's not the claim.

Then how did NYPD view the contents if it wasn't in their possession? I remember NYPD chief saying that as a father what he saw on the laptop turned his stomach.

No where in your archived link does it verify that.

youllrememberme3 ago

Then how did NYPD view the contents if it wasn't in their possession? I remember NYPD chief saying that as a father what he saw on the laptop turned his stomach.

I didn't say that, are you fucking up again?

Chimaira92 ago

Fuck of you disingenuous cunt.

You didn't say that but you were replying to the guy asking for evidence of the NYPD having had wieners laptop at some point.

Which there is no evidence of.

youllrememberme3 ago

Is there evidence they didn't have it?

MolochHunter ago

im afraid this all checks out. Weiner gave his laptop to Granite - thats in evidence in the warrant. The Feds took it off Granite. The Feds ran the case to where Weiner pleaded guilty

so when did the NYPD ever have an opportunity in that chain of events to have it in their posession? Ive scoured all over and asked in several threads, does anyone have any independent evidence that the NYPD ever issued a warrant. No one has come up with anything other than a regurgitation of the claims that Eric Prince put out there about cops losing their lunch over an 'insurance' file on a laptop that no other corroborating evidence shows was ever in the NYPDs hands

youllrememberme3 ago

We'll see how it plays out but, I have a few issues with the federal warrant we're seeing. The story below came out on September 22, 2016 the day before Granite supposedly got the devices. Now there's a big push to claim the NYPD wasn't involved. Without inside knowledge of how the investigation was conducted it's impossible for us to know exactly what happened. So, we have a choice to make.. Do we believe the side that has been caught lying and tampering with documents already? Or, do we believe the original news reports that the NYPD was very much involved and their Special Victims Unit were the ones investigating?

Prosecutors in US Attorney Preet Bharara’s office have issued a subpoena for Anthony Weiner’s cell phone and other records, law enforcement sources said.

NYPD detectives and the Manhattan DA’s office are also “looking into” allegations that Anthony Weiner engaged in a months-long sexting relationship with an underage girl, sources told The Post Thursday.

The NYPD’s Special Victims Unit is investigating the matter after a 15-year-old high-school student released a trove of sick texts and photos she allegedly received from the disgraced politician.

“We’re looking to see if a crime was committed in New York and if there’s a complainant,” an NYPD official said.

The teen claims Weiner, 52, told her about his “rape fantasies,” sent her pornographic videos and asked her to get naked and masturbate for him over Skype.

Weiner’s estranged wife, Huma Abedin, was seen leaving Weiner’s building at 1 Irving Place about 9 a.m. this morning with their 4-year-old son.

Manhattan D.A. Cyrus Vance declined to comment on the latest Weiner scandal at a Thursday press conference.

https://nypost.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigating-weiners-sexting-relationship-with-teen/

I don't see how theres any possible way the NYPD special victims unit could investigate a sexting case without having the devices at some point.

MolochHunter ago

here's the thing: its not a false either/or proposition

its BOTH we can well take it in good faith Special Victims and NYPD WERE looking into it we just dont have any evidence in the public sphere that those divisions advanced to the stage of issuing a warrant

you might doubt the veracity of the FBI warrant to take the hardware off Granite. I'm not claiming that evidence is beyond scrutiny. I'm saying that this warrant remains A HIGHER STANDARD OF EVIDENCE than the current mere speculation

but think about this

it really doesnt make much sense to think NYPD / SVU took Weiners hardware, then gave it back to him, then he gave it to Granite, then FBI warranted Granite

if they DID, if that's what you are speculating, it suggests cover up / corruption on behalf of the NYPD to give him his gear back without prosecuting him

so really, Occams Razor. We really have to go grasping at straws to continue to believe the NYPD had it and were horrified by an 'Insurance file' . We only have pure gossip that that happened, and we have solid evidence in the form of a warrant, corroborated by several news articles a few days later (and those stories leaned AGAINST Hillary in saying haha we got ur emails, ur still in trouble for them)

Chimaira92 ago

First of all, I apologise.

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/04/erik-prince-nypd-ready-make-arrests-weiner-case/

This is a much better link then the one you are pushing...

“Because of Weinergate and the sexting scandal, the NYPD started investigating it. Through a subpoena, through a warrant, they searched his laptop, and sure enough, found those 650,000 emails. They found way more stuff than just more information pertaining to the inappropriate sexting the guy was doing,” Prince claimed.

 

Marlow asked Prince to clarify these revelations.

“NYPD was the first one to look at that laptop,” Prince elaborated. “Weiner and Huma Abedin, his wife – the closest adviser of Hillary Clinton for 20 years – have both flipped. They are cooperating with the government. They both have – they see potential jail time of many years for their crimes, for Huma Abedin sending and receiving and even storing hundreds of thousands of messages from the State Department server and from Hillary Clinton’s own homebrew server, which contained classified information. Weiner faces all kinds of exposure for the inappropriate sexting that was going on and for other information that they found.”

KnightsofHubris ago

This fake story was pushed to a lot of outlets. YourNewsWire had it first. When Rolling Stone looked into the origins of this they found this fake story was being pushed on twitter and Facebook. The first mention on Facebook was an account with a fake name, but they found the woman behind the account. A 60 year old cat lady in Joplin, MO. Exactly who NYPD chiefs discuss sensitive cases with. Twitter bots were already pushing this fake story a week before the Erik Prince article.

https://cdn.disclose.tv/sites/default/files/styles/inline/public/img/inline/2016/10/31/nypd-rumor-its-worse-then-classified-emails-political-pedophile-sex-ring-exposed-312425-1.jpg?itok=B1N6RYX6

YourNewsWire had it 4-5 days before the Erik Prince story and they were pointed to conspiracy forums talking about it. IPatriot had it that day

Alex Jones, True Pundit had it two days before.

Suddenly everyone had secret NYPD sources.

YourNewsWire first article isn't even sure their source is FBI or NYPD, they claimed both.

There were other version of this fake story. Including that the laptop showed the election would cancelled and John McCain created ISIS.

Kent Dunn Intel Report Private Emails Reveal Hillary Clinton As Part of Pedophile Sex Ring, ISIS Created By Members of Congress, Military Confirms No Elections in 2016. Kent Dunn says there is information regarding the true founders of ISIS terrorist group. ISIS was created by the CIA in collaboration with the Israeli Mossad. The inventors of ISIS are Joe Lieberman, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham.

Chimaira92 ago

Well fuck me sideways. The plot thickens.

Can you provide a timestamp for the twitter bot?

YourNewsWire first article isn't even sure their source is FBI or NYPD, they claimed both.

and

YourNewsWire had it 4-5 days before the Erik Prince story and they were pointed to conspiracy forums talking about it.

You make a good strong case though and I am more persuaded towards your evidence now.

KnightsofHubris ago

This was antisemtic account that was posing at Jewish New Yorker was most likely a bot.

https://pics.me.me/1-08-pm-ooo-at-t-95-tweet-david-goldberg-davidgoldbergny-rumors-5778197.png

early morning 10/30/16 is the tweet time and he is quoting a Facebook post from the evening of October 29th, 2016

Rolling Stone identified an account called Wings of Eagles as on of the bot promoters

@NIVIsa4031 was the twitter handle. That account is suspended, but looking it up just now people are still @ ing this account

here's the youtube video for that crazy Kent Dunn "Intel"

It's Oct 31, two days before TruePundit.

People, claim I'm a shill and blablabla, but my evidence is always solid.

youllrememberme3 ago

I was only pushing that link because OP is a shill and even huffpo admits the NYPD was involved.

Chimaira92 ago

Ok fair enough then and yeah the huffpo link admits the NYPD was involved but it doesn't mention how it was involved, if they even had the laptop or if they were just involved with the 15 year old sexting case.

But as you pointed out in another comment there are other sources that can verify it.

youllrememberme3 ago

I sure as fuck would hope they would treat a politician like they would treat us and search all his shit.

Chimaira92 ago

So do I bro. So do I.

I at least hope the NYPD sticks to what they said about releasing it all to wikileaks or hosting their own press conference.

youllrememberme3 ago

I believe it's all about hit the fan and that's why the NYPD is holding off.