I haven't found the comment in question, but here is an example of what happens when I handed everyone a whole vote farming sub of all the shills that were spamming up v/pizzagate at the time. Keep in mind that this was around the time that 2 contributing users, DarkMath and 2impendingdoom, were banned for "spam". I'm sure @Putitout wouldn't condone this bullshit.
Thanks for the link PuppetShow. First, mods can't ban people unless they break a subverse or Voatwide rule. Knowing an account is shilly doesn't mean we can ban it, although Falcon did do that on occasion when the sub was being flooded with shitposts that were being commented on by likely sockpuppets to get them higher on "Hot" view.
Second, I unbanned 2ImpendingDoom as soon as I was made aware that had happened. In the case of DarkMath, he became overly frustrated with the lack of public progress and blatant shilling and "blackpilled", posting multiple rule-breaking posts venting his spleen even though he knew better. He received brief warning ban and was unbanned within a day or two, and then started up again with posts we had to remove. He didn't give us much of a choice but to ban him. I have missed him ever since.
It was more their reaction with the "lulz" that made me and many others feel like these were SBBH alts. Kevdude did admit that crensch "stopped" SBBH from blowing up pizzagate, so it's not that crazy of an idea. I get that banning isn't really free speech, but when you have a bunch of alts that are doing nothing but vote farming in one sub and spamming up v/pizzagate, I'm pretty sure that breaks some Voat rules and nothing was done. It's curious.
You unbanning @2impendingdoom is appreciated, but unfortunately all this bullshit seems to have put him/her off too, not around much anymore. @DarkMath was obviously burnt out, we even had discussions about it. But, permanently banning someone who put a lot of work into this sub seems wrong when obvious shill accounts are aloud to contine to spam up the board and even vote farm.
I don't disagree with you, and I am totally willing to unban DarkMath if he hasn't been unbanned already, if he is willing to stay on topic in v/pizzagate.
when you have a bunch of alts that are doing nothing but vote farming in one sub and spamming up v/pizzagate, I'm pretty sure that breaks some Voat rules and nothing was done. It's curious.
I do my best to ban every alt that repeatedly breaks rules. Sometimes when they rotate accounts and wait weeks between shitposts, it's hard to realize they've exposed a demonstrable pattern. We have started a tracking thread in v/pizzagatemods to keep an eye on some of this behavior and let users know what the shills have been up to, since their posts usually get flushed out of sight. I am pretty sure Voat doesn't allow sites as large as ours to ban users for vote farming in other subs. It all comes down to a pattern of violating OUR subverse rules, or the Voat User Agreement. Helping mods document that goes a long way in combatting it, and you can do so in v/pizzagatemods, but most users don't want to reign shill wrath down on themselves.
I am totally willing to unban DarkMath if he hasn't been unbanned already, if he is willing to stay on topic
That's not what this is about, that should probably be a community vote or something. That's all I was really petitioning for back when that happened. If a long time contributing member is going to be banned, it should be the decision of the community.
I do my best to ban every alt that repeatedly breaks rules.
This isn't about you either. It was a little disappointing to be called a shill, but I'm not easily offended.
I am pretty sure Voat doesn't allow sites as large as ours to ban users for vote farming in other subs. It all comes down to a pattern of violating OUR subverse rules, or the Voat User Agreement.
That's what this is about.. I read a thread I believe @Putitout made (could have been @kevdude) and it was a giant argument about brigading. Vote farming was mentioned and Put was trying to stop it and banning subs if they were caught. I could be mixing up multiple threads. Anyways, I brought this incident to kevdude and Crensch, one of the owners of the sub, and was first ignored. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2042853/10080866
Then, when I decided to be a dick about to get their attention I was told to "eat a dick". https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2048810/10104430 So.. Guess who can eat a dick? I don't like fuckers like that. Especially some of the bullshit they spread, they sound like CTR right before the election when they were framing everyone as Nazi. Even Pewdiepie, the gamer, got caught up in their bullshit.
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ThePuppetShow ago
Good work figuring that shit out. This has to be site wide.. Maybe @kevdude will have some answers.
freshmeat ago
Kev wont help you. Ask the admin directly @PuttItOut
ThePuppetShow ago
You're right.. I just like to agitate the SBBH crew ever since I found out that they had a plot to destroy v/pizzagate.
Vindicator ago
Evidence, please. I have seen no such plot.
ThePuppetShow ago
I haven't found the comment in question, but here is an example of what happens when I handed everyone a whole vote farming sub of all the shills that were spamming up v/pizzagate at the time. Keep in mind that this was around the time that 2 contributing users, DarkMath and 2impendingdoom, were banned for "spam". I'm sure @Putitout wouldn't condone this bullshit.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2048810/10104430
Vindicator ago
Thanks for the link PuppetShow. First, mods can't ban people unless they break a subverse or Voatwide rule. Knowing an account is shilly doesn't mean we can ban it, although Falcon did do that on occasion when the sub was being flooded with shitposts that were being commented on by likely sockpuppets to get them higher on "Hot" view.
Second, I unbanned 2ImpendingDoom as soon as I was made aware that had happened. In the case of DarkMath, he became overly frustrated with the lack of public progress and blatant shilling and "blackpilled", posting multiple rule-breaking posts venting his spleen even though he knew better. He received brief warning ban and was unbanned within a day or two, and then started up again with posts we had to remove. He didn't give us much of a choice but to ban him. I have missed him ever since.
ThePuppetShow ago
It was more their reaction with the "lulz" that made me and many others feel like these were SBBH alts. Kevdude did admit that crensch "stopped" SBBH from blowing up pizzagate, so it's not that crazy of an idea. I get that banning isn't really free speech, but when you have a bunch of alts that are doing nothing but vote farming in one sub and spamming up v/pizzagate, I'm pretty sure that breaks some Voat rules and nothing was done. It's curious.
You unbanning @2impendingdoom is appreciated, but unfortunately all this bullshit seems to have put him/her off too, not around much anymore. @DarkMath was obviously burnt out, we even had discussions about it. But, permanently banning someone who put a lot of work into this sub seems wrong when obvious shill accounts are aloud to contine to spam up the board and even vote farm.
Just my 2¢
Vindicator ago
I don't disagree with you, and I am totally willing to unban DarkMath if he hasn't been unbanned already, if he is willing to stay on topic in v/pizzagate.
I do my best to ban every alt that repeatedly breaks rules. Sometimes when they rotate accounts and wait weeks between shitposts, it's hard to realize they've exposed a demonstrable pattern. We have started a tracking thread in v/pizzagatemods to keep an eye on some of this behavior and let users know what the shills have been up to, since their posts usually get flushed out of sight. I am pretty sure Voat doesn't allow sites as large as ours to ban users for vote farming in other subs. It all comes down to a pattern of violating OUR subverse rules, or the Voat User Agreement. Helping mods document that goes a long way in combatting it, and you can do so in v/pizzagatemods, but most users don't want to reign shill wrath down on themselves.
ThePuppetShow ago
That's not what this is about, that should probably be a community vote or something. That's all I was really petitioning for back when that happened. If a long time contributing member is going to be banned, it should be the decision of the community.
This isn't about you either. It was a little disappointing to be called a shill, but I'm not easily offended.
That's what this is about.. I read a thread I believe @Putitout made (could have been @kevdude) and it was a giant argument about brigading. Vote farming was mentioned and Put was trying to stop it and banning subs if they were caught. I could be mixing up multiple threads. Anyways, I brought this incident to kevdude and Crensch, one of the owners of the sub, and was first ignored. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2042853/10080866
Then, when I decided to be a dick about to get their attention I was told to "eat a dick". https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2048810/10104430 So.. Guess who can eat a dick? I don't like fuckers like that. Especially some of the bullshit they spread, they sound like CTR right before the election when they were framing everyone as Nazi. Even Pewdiepie, the gamer, got caught up in their bullshit.
ThePuppetShow ago
Think I mispelled @Puttitout and I want to make sure @Crensch doesn't feel left out. I edited him in and I'm not sure if that works.