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When (((they))) are finally caught placing cancer cell causing agents into vaccines, the claim will be that they were merely trying to build cancer immunity in the population. It was for your own good!! Trust (((us)))!!
I was innoculated in the 70's. We were one of the last generations to get the small pox vaccine. It's on the rise. Look it up. It's deadly. I have no sauce, but I did read that they are having to create it again as the batch for posterity was destroyed or something. Natural News probably has an archive on it.
If you don't have a scar that means the injection you got didn't immune you to the disease, it was a problem with some of the vaccines back then - sorry charlie.
Did you even understand what I posted? I'm saying that you can get a smallpox vaccination, BUT, if you have no scar that means the vaccination they gave you did not work and your body built up no antibodies against the disease. These are known as "No-Takes" in the immunology world. So yes, you can be vaccinated and yes you can have no scar, but you also have no immunity because your body did not form antibodies - which is the purpose of the vaccine.
Ok. If I get small pox I'll be sure to let YOU know it didnt take, then you can say told you so! I was Innoculated in the early 70s. I'm really not worried about it.
So your saying the scar means the body formed the antibodies and since I did not scar, my body didnt? Well, if that's true, then what about all the others? Sheesh, I never got sick as a kid, save the time my friends son gave me chicken pox a 24. That was terrible.
I don't think you have to worry since Smallpox has been eradicated. I was just pointing out that some of the vaccines back then didn't work and that was a way to tell, you don't have to be defensive. Also, it sucks that you got chicken pox at 24.
Could it be that they used fetus cells to incubate the virus? I imagine there is a way to create human cell cultures on an industrial scale if you start with pluripotent stem cells.
How did you know they were referencing you :) I don't know what you were saying but if you were saying it is ok to use aborted fetal tissue you were in fact wrong.
Because it's not the first time I call out @madmalloy and he tends to act like a little bitch. The nigger is as bad as @henrycorp, except he doesn't ban people.
I don't know what you were saying but if you were saying it is ok to use aborted fetal tissue you were in fact wrong.
No, I'm not saying that. That's really two separate issues. I'm questioning the arbitrary mention of "DNA with cancer genes from fetus". I'm assuming that the article implies that it'll give cancer to people so I have to ask "under which mechanism would it happen?". This seems to me like fear porn, which wouldn't be surprising from this publication.
You're wrong, because you have a closed mind, unable to visualize events happening outside your own information bubble, as I indicated in my comment below to you. People with closed minds and excessive self-esteem, are the most dangerous, because you think you're always right, when in fact the world is much bigger and more complex than what you have access to inside your own head.
If you continue to employ such narrow-minded thinking, you will be responsible for the next thalidomide, asbestos, shoe sizing x-ray machine, Fukushima, or the Max 767 disaster.
And what does this spooky DNA do if it's not inserted into cells? Your body won't magically start to produce proteins from it. See how virus works.
@madmalloy, you're a fucking nigger. This is basic biology and yet you keep posting that garbage. Are you trying to allude that those who oppose vaccines are loon?
exDNA (extracellular DNA) is often bound to other plasma constituents such as RNA, lipids and proteins, being in that case called virtosomes (Fig. ?(Fig.1).1). As part of virtosomes, exDNA shows the ability to migrate to different parts of the body, enter target cells and alter their physiological properties such as the immune response, by sharing antigenic information (Anker et al. 1984; Aucamp et al. 2016; Skog et al. 2008). Peters and Pretorius (2012) highlighted that this active release and uptake of nucleic acids is a characteristic of all organisms and cell types, and that in contrast to the neo-Darwinian dogma, physical and behavioural traits can be inherited through this cycling. This is because there has been found evidence that not only somatic but also germ cells might be subject to genetic and epigenetic modifications via exDNA (intensively reviewed and discussed by Aucamp et al. 2016).
Oh, so vaccines can contain something called Polysorbate 80, for example, which is a nonionic surfactant and emulsifier. Does it emulsify exDNA?
But sure. If you feel it's all kosher, by all means go load up on some cancerous exDNA. Don't ask any stupid questions while you do it either, goy.
I'm not pro vaccine, I just hate the fucking fear porn and disinfo shared by @madmalloy and others. Thanks for the reference to virtosomes. I didn't know about that. Though, from my short read, it seems that it's not just external DNA, but that it does have a structure which facilitate the uptake from living cells.
Ok. I give you kudos for accepting the new information. I was harsh in my other comment to you, because I have a low tolerance for arrogance and overconfidence. It's not good, especially when the health and future of humans are at stake. Stuff like this is usually much more complicated than we think. Of course my quote above does not guarantee anything, but it just shows that there are other mechanisms for exDNA transfer also, than we might initially think.
Good scientists in Biophysics, Biochem, Molecular Biology (all converging disciplines) are very hesitant to assert anything, because it is abundantly clear how little we do know. I find the attitudes refreshing.
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NevadaDesertPatriot ago
Theory on cancer cells being found in vaccines
When (((they))) are finally caught placing cancer cell causing agents into vaccines, the claim will be that they were merely trying to build cancer immunity in the population. It was for your own good!! Trust (((us)))!!
ArielQflip ago
I was innoculated in the 70's. We were one of the last generations to get the small pox vaccine. It's on the rise. Look it up. It's deadly. I have no sauce, but I did read that they are having to create it again as the batch for posterity was destroyed or something. Natural News probably has an archive on it.
madmalloy ago
In 1980 the military gave me one because the were unsure of the scar I had from getting it as a kid.
ArielQflip ago
Not everyone got that scar. I remember kids healing from it. That was strange indeed. I didn't scar.
NakedWarrior ago
If you don't have a scar that means the injection you got didn't immune you to the disease, it was a problem with some of the vaccines back then - sorry charlie.
ArielQflip ago
I do not agree. Not everyone scars from it. I saw with my own eyes.
NakedWarrior ago
Did you even understand what I posted? I'm saying that you can get a smallpox vaccination, BUT, if you have no scar that means the vaccination they gave you did not work and your body built up no antibodies against the disease. These are known as "No-Takes" in the immunology world. So yes, you can be vaccinated and yes you can have no scar, but you also have no immunity because your body did not form antibodies - which is the purpose of the vaccine.
ArielQflip ago
Ok. If I get small pox I'll be sure to let YOU know it didnt take, then you can say told you so! I was Innoculated in the early 70s. I'm really not worried about it.
So your saying the scar means the body formed the antibodies and since I did not scar, my body didnt? Well, if that's true, then what about all the others? Sheesh, I never got sick as a kid, save the time my friends son gave me chicken pox a 24. That was terrible.
NakedWarrior ago
I don't think you have to worry since Smallpox has been eradicated. I was just pointing out that some of the vaccines back then didn't work and that was a way to tell, you don't have to be defensive. Also, it sucks that you got chicken pox at 24.
ArielQflip ago
RH-NEG. I have gotten shingles as big a 2 quarters. Whatever. Not obese.
Ken_bingo2 ago
A lot of us have the scar from getting the vaccine in the military in the 2000's
madmalloy ago
And that last one I got made me feel like I got kicked in my armpit by a mule.
ArielQflip ago
I was so tired and sick to my stomach.
KEVDOG77 ago
This is some X-Files stuff right here, WTF lets give everyone cancer.
slope ago
Did it induce cells to overcome their hayflick limit, as many other cancers do?
If so, this life form could be immune to normal early cell death, and live indefinitely.
glennvtx ago
NaturalNews == Bullshit
canbot ago
Could it be that they used fetus cells to incubate the virus? I imagine there is a way to create human cell cultures on an industrial scale if you start with pluripotent stem cells.
madmalloy ago
Gosh, there are trolls here. Go fig.
scandalous-goat ago
By all mean, explain where I am wrong, instead of trying to shut down the discussion by calling me a troll.
beefartist ago
How did you know they were referencing you :) I don't know what you were saying but if you were saying it is ok to use aborted fetal tissue you were in fact wrong.
scandalous-goat ago
Because it's not the first time I call out @madmalloy and he tends to act like a little bitch. The nigger is as bad as @henrycorp, except he doesn't ban people.
No, I'm not saying that. That's really two separate issues. I'm questioning the arbitrary mention of "DNA with cancer genes from fetus". I'm assuming that the article implies that it'll give cancer to people so I have to ask "under which mechanism would it happen?". This seems to me like fear porn, which wouldn't be surprising from this publication.
beefartist ago
Have you tried getting a fucking life?
scandalous-goat ago
Where did I hurt you?
qwop ago
You're wrong, because you have a closed mind, unable to visualize events happening outside your own information bubble, as I indicated in my comment below to you. People with closed minds and excessive self-esteem, are the most dangerous, because you think you're always right, when in fact the world is much bigger and more complex than what you have access to inside your own head.
If you continue to employ such narrow-minded thinking, you will be responsible for the next thalidomide, asbestos, shoe sizing x-ray machine, Fukushima, or the Max 767 disaster.
scandalous-goat ago
Eh? Read my reply to your other post. Being critical of bullshit isn't being closed-minded.
scandalous-goat ago
And what does this spooky DNA do if it's not inserted into cells? Your body won't magically start to produce proteins from it. See how virus works.
@madmalloy, you're a fucking nigger. This is basic biology and yet you keep posting that garbage. Are you trying to allude that those who oppose vaccines are loon?
qwop ago
What are virtosomes?
Oh, so vaccines can contain something called Polysorbate 80, for example, which is a nonionic surfactant and emulsifier. Does it emulsify exDNA?
But sure. If you feel it's all kosher, by all means go load up on some cancerous exDNA. Don't ask any stupid questions while you do it either, goy.
scandalous-goat ago
I'm not pro vaccine, I just hate the fucking fear porn and disinfo shared by @madmalloy and others. Thanks for the reference to virtosomes. I didn't know about that. Though, from my short read, it seems that it's not just external DNA, but that it does have a structure which facilitate the uptake from living cells.
qwop ago
Ok. I give you kudos for accepting the new information. I was harsh in my other comment to you, because I have a low tolerance for arrogance and overconfidence. It's not good, especially when the health and future of humans are at stake. Stuff like this is usually much more complicated than we think. Of course my quote above does not guarantee anything, but it just shows that there are other mechanisms for exDNA transfer also, than we might initially think.
Ken_bingo2 ago
Good scientists in Biophysics, Biochem, Molecular Biology (all converging disciplines) are very hesitant to assert anything, because it is abundantly clear how little we do know. I find the attitudes refreshing.
YoHomie ago
No, those who oppose vaccines are fucking morons.
wickedkae ago
Remember not question anything! Just let corporations who thrive on your sickness inject you with stuff!
Kill yourself