chuckletrousers ago

You do realise that the earth has been known to be spherical for a couple thousand years before NASA came along, right? OTOH, there were mouth breathing retards even back then who insisted the earth was flat.

ItsBad ago

People have been conditioned to not look into and to outright reject more "out there" or "extreme" beliefs.

"How could people lie so much! Someone would leak the secret! Why would they lie?"

In spite of no doubt having personal experiences of how much things are mismanaged, how much others misinform them. They cannot make the mental leap that something is fishy or partially false, to completely made up from the ground up. It just goes too far for them, they would know nothing about the world if this was true.

And there's the important concept that many don't realize - no one is actually verifying things. They're just parroting what an authority told them, because they were trained to believe in authority. And if there's one thing I've learned it's that trusting an authority is a huge mistake.

They do leak the truth too, they just don't make a big deal about it. Hollywood is always "joking" about the fake moon landing. Astros have lots of footage of them messing up. Buzz said we never went during a word salad Q&A answer. Etc. But they cannot see it, they're conditioned.

Outer space is fake and the world is a geo centric system. I personally think we don't have enough information to say what shape the Earth is exactly - no doubt all the maps are deliberately inaccurate. The important thing is the implications of such a massive deception - what else are they lying about? Everything?

dbvapor ago

Thanks exactly. It’s pretty Earth shattering stuff no pun intended. My perception is 180° from just a few days ago and it is a little dizzying. Also just trying to find friends or others who will even begin to entertain the idea. I definitely want to do more research on it all it’s absolutely fascinating. Also it makes me feel good knowing it’s all bullshit because it was so hard to wrap my mind around it all to begin with. And where does it all end like you said.. everything? Just about.

dan_k ago

I like this guy.

grandmacaesar ago

Eclipses.

dbvapor ago

Yeah the sun is millions of miles away and the moon just happens to almost perfectly eclipse it, great point.

Hand_of_Node ago

Why do some flat earthers reject the existence of Leprechauns? Pot 'o Gold deniers is what they are.

dbvapor ago

Ha have an upvote. I understand my wording wasn’t the best. I obviously don’t expect all goats to believe in Flat Earth. Just funny how many downvotes any mention of it gets on a site that is full of so many “red-pilled” folks.

Hand_of_Node ago

I'll tell you what. If you can induce @TheBuddha to consider your theories on flat/infinite plane earth, and present evidence that stumps him, I'll take it seriously enough to physically confirm one way or another.

TheBuddha ago

It gets downvotes because it's retarded. A scale, a weight, and a car are enough to demonstrate the planet is an oblate spheroid. Hell, you can do it with a watch, a stick, and a hike.

chuckletrousers ago

A scale, a weight, and a car are enough to demonstrate the planet is an oblate spheroid. Hell, you can do it with a watch, a stick, and a hike.

That would involve leaving their mom's basement.

Hand_of_Node ago

Have you ever talked to any of those people? There are a surprising number here on voat, and some accounts you wouldn't expect. They have websites and videos, and some pretty crazy theories about the firmament, ice walls and infinite planes guarded by the UN, and more. I can see why you wouldn't have patience for it, but as you just pointed out, you argue on such a practical level that... Now that I think about it, you'd probably scare them off with the first comment. I sometimes get a kick out of watching things and people malfunction, so I'm probably a little more accommodating.

Btw, I'm going to be sending out some hot pepper seeds when the baggies arrive in a couple days. If you're interested in some, PM me an address. You'd have to get them well started indoors before the ground thaws up there. A few different types and heat levels. One super sweet variety too. Let me know if interested.

TheBuddha ago

I'll let you know, but it's unlikely that I'm interested - and I do greatly appreciate the offer. I grow a huge garden and have the means to put anything in there that I'd like. Additionally, we're getting three giant greenhouses built over the summer, though those are for the farm. So, I'll dedicate maybe 1/4 of one for my projects and the missus' projects, but that won't be ready until well into the end of summer. I'd not try to grow exotic pepper types up here, at least not without a greenhouse. My growing season is short and fairly cool.

If you look on the grow zone maps, you'll see I'm in the middle of a strange microclimate. (3b, as I recall.) Even regular peppers have issues here. So, peppers are going to have to wait and, to be honest, I'd almost certainly lose the seeds.

Shit, if anything, I should be sending you folks some seeds. Hmm... I should consider doing that, though I'll need to organize and see what's worth actually sending. I have some delicious tomatoes that they've grown on the farm for as long as anyone can remember. I don't think they even have a name. They are the kinda tomatoes you can eat like an apple - and not even need to salt 'em.

Anyhow, moving on...

Oh, yes... Yes, I have talked to people who seem to believe, in earnest, that the planet is not a spherical object. They're idiots.

They overlap heavily with another group of idiots, those that don't think we landed on the moon. Explaining that it's nearly impossible to fake it, and impossible to fake it on the world stage, does no good. I don't even bother to try.

One of my favorite sayings:

"You can't reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into."

Hand_of_Node ago

I'm sending some to Middle_Path, who seems to have some sort of seed distribution planned for later this month. Adding delicious tomato seeds to it would be great.

As far as the greenhouses go, I was interested in those, but almost all my growing was indoors and completely controlled. It's probably not as economical these days with all the new laws.

Hand_of_Node ago

I've had debates and exchanged comments with all kinds. ("70% of humans are trannies" guy was probably least credible.) As for flat or infinite plane earth, none of the videos (didn't watch these) or other evidence overcomes my skepticism. Hundreds of millions of people would have to be in on it, to the point it would be more logical for us to be simulations in a construct. None of those people have made a secret video or brought back pics of the edge. Everything would work differently than it does.

dbvapor ago

Everything would work differently? So why is it that the motion of the Earth hasn’t been detected? Or that thrust and combustion can’t work in space?

Hand_of_Node ago

What would make you think that thrust and combustion can't work in space?

I don't know what you mean by the motion of the earth not being detected.

chuckletrousers ago

I don't know what you mean by the motion of the earth not being detected.

He means he can't feel 0.0007 revolutions per minute in the seat of his pants.

Steinmacher ago

we reject stupid...

dan_k ago

What's stupid about it?

Gizurr ago

Why would every other planet and moon in our solar system be spherical but the Earth flat? That makes no sense.

ItsBad ago

What? The main contention of flat Earthers is that outer space is fake. That there might be something above the sky but NASAs depiction of it is 100% made up.

Gizurr ago

So when I look through my telescope what exactly am I looking at?

dan_k ago

You tell us.

dan_k ago

I feel ya bro, NASA is garbage.

As far as boat goes, some people just will not allow themselves to see the reality even when it's right in front of them. It has everything to do with faith, same as a Christian will absolutely refuse to admit that the bible teaches the modern day jews are the synagogue of satan, it because the preacher, not all preachers mind you, tells then the jews are gods chosen. They will never know the truth unless they actually read and understand it for themselves. One the other hand is the white coat science preacher, he will also lie and tell you gravity has been proven, and the distance to stars is known, and the earth is spinning at 1000mph, and they also use cleverly crafted language and mumbo jumbo that dazzles the zealots of scientism, and if anyone falls out of line will be labeled a heritic, or in our case a flatard. Fact is they have no proof of the spinny ball and know they can NEVER concede that or the gig is up.

Have faith though because once the tipping point is reached the lie will be exposed and that day is rapidly approaching, because once you know the truth, other peoples opinions don't matter.

i_scream_trucks ago

You're a perfect example of the fact that not all niggers are black.

No one else could be this genuinely retarded.

dan_k ago

I hate to break it to you jack ass but everything you think you know as fact is bullshit, sure lots of people think they know that already, but you clearly have not done your homework. Why do you believe you live on a ball with water and shit sticking to the bottom? Just curious.

dbvapor ago

Thanks for your comment and that guy is a perfect example of the brainwashed masses. It’s insane! I’m just blown away by it. Biggest one for me was thrust and combustion not being possible in a vacuum.. and space being a vacuum just not being possible.. also sun rays shining down thru clouds.. the angles don’t make sense for a sun to be millions of miles away. It explains so much.

fastregister ago

to the people in old times the earth appeared flat. to people in modern times the earth appears round, to people in the future earths shape appears to be bent or distorted relative to space and time. all these people were absolutely sure that their assumptions were right.

but most flat earthers are real retards. "double rainbow" kind of retards. maybe because they dont have an "education".

i hear there is no mention of the country insrael in the real bible, but maybe mention of israel as a tribe or family name. the bible translation has been revised and words like plane or stream have been replaced with israel, egypt, nile. so the stories in the bible dont really happen in the middle east. but i never studied bibles.

dan_k ago

I didn't read the Bible.

Here is my opinion of it.

Really bro?

I also put "education" in quotes usually implying that it's actually only indoctrination.

fastregister ago

^^ this immature guy and the bunch of reddit rejects, are the flat earth deniers. they are "so" smart. one clone of a million identicals.

derram ago

https://invidio.us/watch?v=8udts8Un4m4 :

The Case for Flat Earth (Planet Flat Earth part 1) ▶️️ - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=zBuPiVzQLxo :

Epic Deception | Flat Earth Documentary ▶️️ - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=N5RJhRNWCMo :

Long Distance Infrared Photography Exposes Globe Lie! Mt St. Jacinto from 123 miles by Jtolan Media1 - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=jYfwlzWOYCE :

PROOF Thrust is Not Possible in a Vacuum - Flat Earth - YouTube


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