A 9/11 scale (or larger) catastrophe may have happened in Paradise, CA last week. Possibly be deliberately under-reported (Conspiracy)

submitted ago by Chempergrill

The numbers of people reported missing and dead reported in the media do not add up. The real number may be many thousands.

The media has reported 100...500..1,000 missing, increasing numbers based on the uncertain methodology of call-ins.

One reason to suspect that the death toll is very high is that the entire town burned down on Nov 8th, the same fire was discovered source: Cal fire. Here is the initial fire dept tweet, describing a small fire that morning

I propose an alternate methodology to arrive a worst-case death toll than the ones being reported:

Population of Paradise, CA: ~ 26,218 people

Population of people in local shelters: 1,400 people

Which begs the question: Where are the remaining 24,800 people?

Many are certainly evacuated, staying with family, in hotels, spread far and wide perhaps. But there is room for the real death toll to be much, much higher.

fastregister ago

maybe the 24,800 people are the fake voters. they never existed, only on paper. i bet they are on welfare too.

RageAgainstTheAmish ago

Which begs the question: Where are the remaining 24,800 people?

Man you do realize that people have family in other towns throughout this country so people could be going to family members houses instead of going to shelters.

Chempergrill ago

Did you even read the last line of my post?

Chempergrill ago

Camp Fire, Woosley Fire, and the Hill Fire all started Nov 8th. Source: Cal Fire Map

The most destructive fire in CA history, plus two large fires right next to the shooting location starting right after the Thousdand Oaks shooting. Hill and Woosley fires shot down the highway on both side of the shooting location Zoom out from here to see

Whatever pattern this is, its tripled down. ;)

draaaak ago

Interesting proposition. I've suspected it was arson from minute one due to the the timing, severity, and politics of the town (red). Are they still blaming it on a "camp fire"?

Chempergrill ago

I've suspected it was arson from minute one...

I was skeptical of the arson theory, but it turns out that a possible "second start" of the Camp Fire was reported on emergency channels the same day: https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/16/was-possible-second-camp-fire-ignition-caught-on-firewatch-camera/

If this is right, then arson is looking a LOT more likely.

Chempergrill ago

Its supposedly named after Camp Creek Road (Oroville, CA), now.

draaaak ago

How convenient..

derram ago

https://archive.fo/33y5y :

List of Missing in California Fire Is Over 1,000 People. Here Is How They’re Being Counted. - The New York Times

https://archive.fo/toaqy :

CAL FIRE Butte Unit/Butte County Fire Department on Twitter: "Firefighters are working to access a fire in the Camp Creek Road area near Highway 70 in the Feather River canyon. Estimated 10 acres and spreading. #CampFire"

This has been an automated message.