Nope, not under proposed rule 2. Glad the rule failed.

Rule one is peachy-keen. Rule two has to go.

What are considered over attacks by some would be called honest discussion by others. We should be free to express our views, honestly and freely, about race, sex, and religion, along with every other topic in creation.

Sure, you are going to get mindless abusive posts about blacks and Jews. Probably most of them will be made by blacks and Jews trying to poison the well (the Israelis do so love to poison wells, don't they?). You will get many more posts talking about facts concerning blacks and Jews that are true, but that get completely suppressed on most of the Internet, and are never even uttered on the corporate media.

I came to Voat because I am sick and tired of social justice warriors telling me what to do, say and think. I don't need more of that on Voat.

What am I lying about. I searched names in this sub. Nothing came up. Show me the posts and I'll take back whatever I said. The people lying are the ones spamming. They don't give a shit about this sub. They don't comment here. They don't submit posts here.

I not pro-censorship. I'm pro BAN SPAMMERS and TROUBLEMAKERS. You people don't even come in /v/conspiracy. You are liars trying to disrupt and keep other people from coming here. You are the Pro censorship. That's why you spammed and vote brigaded all the spam. To keep people from posting in that sub and to keep people from wanting to go there.

WHAT YOU DO IS WHAT ANTIFA DOES. Same shit tactics. Disrupt, throw a fit, non-logic and calling for the removal of things you don't like. FUCK YOU.

Thanks for removing rule 2 because I looked through the list of deleted posts and some of them were legitimate conspiracies surrounding the JQ. I happen to believe that Jews are being manipulated themselves by TPTB but I think it will be impossible for them to avoid manipulation if mods here (and everywhere) censor JQ posts.

And the only votes that count should be people who are active in this sub and post here. Not all these people who are faking it to try to shut a sub down. Users means someone who uses... not these visitors who are here to stir up trouble like Antifa.

How about u put ur rules up ur ass. Like how I spelled u and ur. I'm a rebel.

Member for 1.6 days.

Yeah ... I totally believe you dude. You're not suspicious.

I've been searching all your usernames and NONE of you post to this sub. Why don't you go back to reddit? We see thru your real agenda to shut down free speech. You hate conspiracies so you come here to fuck with this group in order to be able to turn it into a spam fest so people won't come here. Saw your shit on Reddit.

I argue that a stabler equilibrium can be found while giving slightly more consideration to the individuals with whom you find yourself contending. "That stuff" is demonstrably more than mere distraction. History shows the disparity between how moral societies and immoral societies fare.

So I turned you into a newt. You got better.

You have an agreeable sense of humour, at any rate.

2.2 years and you've not submitted or posted in this sub ever. EVER. And now you want to demod the mods and takeover.

an important argument was happening and you sort of volunteered yourself to be the effigy of the side that was incorrect and I needed to publicly burn you for the good of the site.

I understand this approach, but I can't help but think it is purely utilitarian and doesn't take morality or community cohesion into the equation at all. But if this is your way of doing things, so be it. Theoretically it's better than no one fighting these battles in the first place. If I were engaged in your efforts I would try to avoid burning people alive unnecessarily for the sake of the greater good when both the "effigy" and the greater good can be preserved without the use of fire -- but my focus is on keeping Voat physically alive and running right now so I'll settle for your battle-tested methods.

Go chew foreskin, you nigger kike fag plebbit boy

And I did try to debate you. You just kept going on.

You spoke to me before I reached the final conclusion, never after. Had you tried once to address me about my position after that conclusion -- which you used as the foundation of your argument against me -- I know I would have then come to see your position. Instead the drama.

They are going to burn v/conspiracy down if he doesn't stop.

The community will last until the Port and after the Port they'll have the ability to dethrone him at a whim. I'm not concerned about him at this time. I'm concerned about getting the Port through ASAP -- it will give Voat much more liberty, and that includes the individual community members.

He was not going to do shit until I called him out.

If you suspect this, fine. I have been around for these past two years and I know you have been active with this business all that time, so i trust your intuition. If you so much as had an exchange with him, fine.

I was just thoroughly surprised when you made your post about me without exchanging a single word with me after my posting of my conclusion. Had you so much as said: "This is idiocy, PS" I very likely would have actually read my conclusion and replied: "Yep, it is. Guess I'll re-evaluate the rest of my proposal". Instead I had to spend hours explaining myself everywhere you had gone on about me. It struck me as unnecessarily inefficient.

I understand your sense of urgency with issues like this but I think a simple comment of the nature: "I don't like this, here's why: X." might go a long way toward solving issues more efficiently, instead of creating drama that forces the person involved to spend time defending themselves as well as taking whatever actions necessary to correct the error indicated -- they can just take the actions. If they disagree with your analysis and don't take actions after your confrontation, then a "dramatic" or public post about it makes perfect sense, because it forces them to contend with the issue.

In my case I would have appreciated such courtesy, because 1) your "urgent" post slowed down my ability to correct my words or explain my position, and 2) now you will never know if I only explained my conclusion as a slow realization because I was called out publicly, instead of (the actual reason) because I truly believe my conclusion was proof of my erring and I needed time to realize this in a wakeful state.

In the case of axlotl, without a direct message to him saying: "Rule 2 is bullshit, although I get that you are enforcing it because it is a rule; perhaps you should ask the community at large if they actually want it around?" he may have very well held the discussion thread and removed the poll without the drama. Now for all you know he only did it because he was called out, and because he had to respond to all the threads calling him out his actions may have been slowed.

It seems to me pragmatic then to have a "middle gear" and reach out to the people you try to witch hunt before witch hunting them, if only to potentially increase the efficiency of correction of whatever issue you have identified.

I flaired my threada as resolved and put edits in.

That seems like action enough. I suppose others either haven't seen your flag or saw other drama-perpetuating posts and assumed this particular issue was still active. I was just suggesting you act in whatever way is standard in case you haven't already.

I told him to cut it out with the bans.

As you should, and if you've done so directly to him instead of making an explosive post about it, I applaud your patience and tact. If after your direct messaging he fails to cut it out, at that point I would agree a full-fledged post is justified.

PS as a conspiracy verse spam =hate speech you fucking idiot

After careful review, you are unfit for moderation.

FUCK YOU MORON, I WILL KICK YOU SO HARD YOU WILL CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR MOTHER TO HIDE AND I WILL KICK YOUR WHORE MOTHER UNTIL SHE SHITS YOU OUT AND YOUR NIGGER BROTHER FUCKING KIKE

I'm against rule 2, but rule 2 could be improved by only protecting race and ethnicity

You kike mother fucker. This comment will be deleted because the mod is a kike with a nose so large it arrives 15 minutes before he does. He's also a niggerfaggot who deserves to be gassed by the most nefarious nazi sympthaizer HighSchekl Soros and burnt in the pedophile pizza oven until you can fit 6 gorillan into the ashtray of a vw bus, built by niggers in Detroit.

While I will disagree what you say, I will give my life for your right to say it.

What about you update the subverse template so rule#2 appear?

My take on this: this is shit.

You don't have to harass the users to turn them into politically corrects fucks like the redditards.

Everyone has to accept the idea that in this world, one as to teach himself intellectual self-defense: unless it's done with a truck on a crowded sidewalk, an attack is no big deal, just the beginning of a rethorical pissing contest.

Religions and nations and races etc conspire against each other all the time, all throughout history. National Socialism was a conspiracy of the German race against the other races of the world. Right now American leaders on left and right conspire on how to maintain American hegemony throughout the world. Qatar conspired along with the Obama admin and Iran against its neighbors to manufacture the Arab Spring revolutions. The Catholic Church conspires on how to convince various sects to rejoin it and submit to the Pope's authority.

Religions, nations, etc are formed by great power, and great powers became and remain great powers through conspiracy. Conspiracy theories is investigation into how power is obtained and exercised over others.

And while it certainly seems rude and unnecessary to attack a specific individual who happens to identify with one of the great powers of religion or nationality, and people can't help what system they are born into, adults smart enough to find their way here and understand the topics discussed and willing to engage in debate and discussion are all fairly intelligent people, and should understand that no matter what system they are born into they make a choice to continue identifying with that system; hell, you even change your race these days. If someone feels insulted by something someone else says about some great power, it is because they identify with that great power, and maybe it would help them to learn that that great power does a lot of bad things that make other people dislike it and its members; even if you aren't responsible for what the leaders of your religion do, for example, you still choose to associate with that religion, and maybe having to confront attacks on your religion will motivate you to leave and find something better, or inspire you to promote reform and work to replace its leaders with better leaders. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, and you can't disrupt and innovate and change without hurting someone's feelings. There are always going to be people who don't want things to change, who won't apologize for their past actions, etc. because they did that shit in the first place because it really did seem like it was justified to them. People will insist that even if it turned out the wrong thing to do, they still did it for the right reasons, they had good intentions. Maybe so, but that doesn't change the need for them to apologize for getting it wrong and to make a change to the right thing now, otherwise we never move forward and bury the hatchet, and it usually takes personal and collective attacks to coerce that admission.

See, this is where the PC crowd gets it wrong: they want to defend their protected classes from attacks, but have no problem attacking white people, cops, American government and patriotic American nationalists in general, etc. I welcome the attacks, we have problems and need a wake up call to face them, that's great, but don't turn around and act like you're immune from any criticism from the people you punch up to. When two dykes try to give their 8 year old son a fucking sex change, they ought to be attacked fucking hard, because they need a serious goddamn wakeup call; they don't get to live in a little bubble and fuck up a child just because they got bullied a few times in fucking high school and got fired from a job once, that's total bullshit. If someone drowns themselves in drugs and porn and is too much of a narcissist to have normal social interactions and relationships and decides they like dressing up like a woman and wants breast implants so they can identify with the object of their masturbatory fantasy, fine wallow in your degeneracy, but you're not going to suck me into your fucking delusion; no, I do not have to refer to you by any words other than what I myself choose, and no I do not have to be attracted to you and no I do not have to interact with you in any way whatsoever, tranny - now go hop on tumblr and whatsapp with your other tranny friends and conspire to dox me and get me fired, I'll keep posting about the pharmaceutical companies conspiring to use the media and educational institutions and legal and political measures to clone more cretins like you so they have a big new class of lifelong customers that the government pays most of the bills for all the surgeries and drugs while the pharma companies can raise price and milk the taxpayers who didn't fuck themselves up so royally that they have to institute laws to force people to interact with them in a certain way or face legal consequences.

Fuck.

Rule 1 is fine, rule 2 should be "gas the likes, race war now"

Calm down mahmoud !

You nave no business being on Voat at all. There are eivhty billion kther places that endorse your stupidity. You don't get Voat, don't understand why people are here and you really should not be be here, ecause you can't respect basic human rights. You don't have a right to shove your political cult shit down other people's throats. You also need to grow the fuck up

jews did 911

I say we ban the mods

Dumbfucks don't get it and don't want it: free speech. It starts here and ends with badthink. Such children. "Oh, we only what to end speech we don't like and we know best." Fuck off.

@axolotl__peyotl why do you keep referencing the other mods when they are inactive

No memes as submissions is fine. Memes/infographics in comments should bee allowed.

Get rid of rule two altogether. That's almost what they have written in twoxchromosome.

You haven't banned anybody since November, but broke that steak yesterday with a handful of bans. The reasons didn't really make sense. Should probably undo those..

Edit: Think you should try a little harder man. The reasons on some of the removed content don't relate to anything. Yes some people were harassing the you and the sub but suck it up. They're doing it for obvious reasons and no one is legitimately spamming. So if what they're saying is unpopular let downvoats do the work. Im sure you know where youre at and people don't like getting silenced here.

I came over here because I saw somebody calling for the banning of the Mods from this sub. This seems to happen on every platform I see. Just speak your mind V/Conspiracy . And to everyone else, Stop with this "call for action" bullshit.

Rule #2 could very easily be abused. I would recommend not deleting comments and posts that you disagree with. Voat is an extremely small community and you are bound to get racists here. They appear on my subs as well, it's part and parcel with the voat thing.

The best way to fight speech you disagree with is to provide a decent counter argument if not for the poster, for the lurkers.

Most conspiracies revolve around elites trying to take away rights of the common man, don't become the monster you're supposedly trying to fight.

Also, you should really step down as mod here. Reddit can be your safe space, not here.

Whats this BS Rule 2? You even considering that as an enforceable option should see you castrated of moderating anything on this site.

Most of your comment and sub history seem legit, but this recent one when referring to the deleted comment is pretty fucking telling

ok so the comment was NIGGER CUNT NIGGER CUNT NIGGER CUNT. Not in my subreddit, sorry.

How about you pack your shit up and head on down the road back to reddit, don't forget to kiss the Mao memorial they keep out front.

Before even starting a subverse, here is point 2 on create a new subverse page. The logic applies for starting to mod one as well.

Before you proceed, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you take a minute to read the Voat FAQ.

Here it is strait from the Voat FAQ

While we don't necessarily approve or agree with all content that users submit to Voat, our policy is to not meddle and not censor content unless said content is illegal in the United States.

@PuttItOut Would any subverse having censorship rules not following FAQ guidelines be violating any kind of rule? Does this warrant a reminder to subverses site wide about this policy of anti censorship?

For enforcing a rule (a terrible one, I agree) that has been present for years (or at least as long as I can remember)?

Why not have a discussion about whether or not the community actually desires it, and if it doesn't, remove it? Just like has been done here in this post.

This was a nice post, axolotl__peyotl, and your response was mature and responsible. Well done. It would have been nice if the main opponents of Rule 2 had contacted you civilly about Rule 2 instead of breaking Rule 2 while complaining about Rule 2 so that Rule 2 could be removed without quite as much drama. As far as I can see such a civil approach was not carried out, though I may have simply missed it.

Please don't turn this in to the Reddit Circle jerk that is happening there now. You know what is happening.

Get rid of rule two. Let my Goats go!

People say offensive things because they are angry and generalize. I take it with a grain of salt, and consider that they probably are not that bad in person. When I first came here, I thought it was a bit crude, but it was refreshing to see a place where people could be FREE to vent their frustrations and not be policed by Orwellian thought police. What they say is forgivable, out of ignorance or anger. What you are doing is an abomination. You have sought this place out when there are other places we have abandoned that are ruined by your kind. You are the enemy of freedom. What you have done is unforgivable, and makes me sympathetic to the most vile comments I have ever read here. We will find another place as we have done before. The more you lot do this the more angry we get. Don't think you have succeded in anything other than making things worse. You are bringing so really bad things, I hope that makes you proud.

Get rid of it. It's too subjective. Especially in v/conspiracy, where tough subjects need to be discussed.

You're basically asking if Voat should become more like Reddit, or like imgur, or YouTube, or Facebook, or Twitter, or everything else. Rule 2 would destroy Voat so quick it isn't even funny. Free speech is the only reason we use it above the other choices. If I saw this implemented​ I would stop visiting​ Voat immediately, and delete it from my browser history. Just stay the only real free speech website on the internet, please.

Can you define spam and meme.?

Am relatively new to this.

Thank You.

Does the second rule apply to both submissions and comments?

Rule 2 needs to go.

Zionist-Jews, and those who silently support them have intentionally hid under the protective skirt of "Antisemitism" for far to long.

• "Anti-semitic, its a trick we always use it"

They have even told us this much in no uncertain words.

We want these rules removed and you gone.

Fuck you.

If the community wants to remove (or keep) either (or both) rules, please make your voice heard now.

(this should have been done before they hit the sidebar)

actual users

1

Voat concern trolls

2

legitimate users

3

..and you called this a subreddit at one point if I recall correct. Despite your 3 plus years here, you sound like someone that is not a part of "the community" here on voat.. or you would not have had to make this post in the first place. This reads like someone who was afraid of losing there position of "internet power". You smell like reddit to me.

Just one mans thoughts.

No overt attacks on people's race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or creed

Sounds like something a filthy mohametan turknigger would say.

@axolotl__peyotl is a censoring nigger faggot cunt kike. rule number 2 is nothing but a broad brush to censor whatever the nigger faggot cunt kike @axolotl__peyotl doesnt like.

Your second rule is fucking retarded SJW shit. How you can you talk about conspiracy and be hand tied by race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, and creed? It's beyond fucking retarded and you know it.

Rule 1 limits discussion to that which is relevant, beyond that the idea of policing content on a sub about conspiracy is deeply flawed.

Why do you feel the need to 'police' your sub? Just let it exist. If someone is being a ass, they probably won't get much feedback anyways. It will be an effort in futility. Obviously, nobody is going to piss and moan if you delete retarded threads, such as "NIGGER" or some other ridiculously obvious spam. Beyond that you should merely be the caretaker of the sub. It would be ironic if a sub called 'Conspiracy' was to begin censoring its content.

Remove Rule 2

Hey @kevdude,

I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to posting, and I think Rule 2 is waay too subjective, probably should be removed, or at least replaced.

What I don't mind seeing, though, is removal of posts that waste people's time. Like the recent barrage of posts designed to do . . . who knows what, other than maybe show they can string a bunch of "offensive words" together?

It was getting hard to find the actual content in this sub.

I'm so libertarian I don't even think there should be a "rule" about contentless posts. We all know how to recognize posts that don't actually have any content, and the recent removals seem to show that the mods "get" it. Maybe we could call it a "principal" that morons who post things that don't have any information and waste people's time will get deleted, and probably should be banned if they repeatedly waste the mods's time.

Banning users from discussing racism and racist things shuts down many very real conspiracies.

Stop trying to do us brown folks a favor.

Rule 2 is bullshit

Rule 2: No overt attacks on people's race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or creed

All of those things can be a part of conspiracies.

Oh goody, an ongoing troll attack.

Axolotl has been around for three years, now all of a sudden his mod style is being questioned.

Mods can do whatever they want with their subs, if we don't like it we can start our own.

i tried to set my password to penis, but it's too short

Ehhh... I took the "idiotic spam" to mean comments as well, but maybe I was mistaken.

Rule 2: No overt attacks on people's race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or creed

How about all of them at once?

Auschwitz was not a death camp, and the holocaust was a fucking hoax

get rid of rule 2 i get why you have it and have the same fears you do about the unapologetic racism in all of voat but if speech becomes censored here what reason do we have not to just go to reddit

Some Racist^(R) Facts: Blacks do more crime than whites, look, they are 12% of the population, yet they commit more murders than whites, who are 77% of the population. source

Also blacks murder whites at twice the rate that whites murder blacks. Also Africans have below retarded IQ by US metric (if you know how IQ is compiled, this is extremely telling.)

I think you're doing a good job axolotl.

After what happened with /v/Linux and now here it's pretty clear that /v/protectvoat is conducting a hostile takeover of voat so they can silence dissent.

You're a little punk that needs his pooper popped. The smell of fucking faggotry on you waifs through the air so that anyone can smell the queer. FUCKSTICK.

Thanks for removing the idiotic spam that was clogging up this sub.

Submissions should definitely be removed when it has no informational content, but is just designed to pester the mods or other users.

If you feel rule one is valid, fine. That's pretty acceptable site wide that spam (and to an extent, memes) aren't cool in the serious boards.

Rule two is a gross over extension however. Free speech is just that: free. Voat already has a strong system in place to control words and opinions that aren't what the crowds want to see or hear. By acting as the police of this sub due to perceived "attacks", you are cultivating a mentality which was the cause of past fleeing of other platforms to Voat.

We're all adults here. Seeing words like nigger, kike, faggot, etc are part of being an adult. Don't assume you need to spare our "feelings" in a sub that can occasionally get heated when debate starts. The community can police itself fine

what does rule 2 actually have to do with the subverse? what purpose does it serve in regard to conspiracies? say someone posted a conspiracy that included a overt attack on someone's race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or creed, despite being a conspiracy would you say such a submission doesn't belong in v/conpiracy? if so, why?

I'm not trying to cause trouble, but if you actually do have a valid reason for including that rule which is relevant to the idea behind the subverse I'd like to hear it.

It's good to see you're willing to have a conversation about it.

what do the actual users of /v/conspiracy think?

Nice wording there kike. Remove Rule 2.

What does unapologetic racism mean, and why is it unacceptable?

I dont really post here, so ignore me if you want but,

Rule 2: No overt attacks on people's race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or creed

define attack. If I state that I believe kikes run the world and have an agenda to genocide the white race, is that an attack? or did I only use a bad word. If I call kevdude a nigger, is that an attack? He wont care, so why should anyone else?

Youre also going to need a way to define actual users. Many people only lurk, are they not users? If not then youll need to define a v/conspiracy ccp limit for an opinion to count.

and to be clear, I really dont care what you do in here, and I think the last 24 hrs have been some bullshit butt hurt trolls. You seem to have rules which you thought were broken, so I dont see what the stink is about.

Legitimate Voat user here.

Rule 2 is kikery incarnate

What if I develop a conspiracy theory about overt racism in the media supported by (((executives))) ?

Will that get deleted because I suggest that kikes are manipulative wastes of oxygen & are behind it ?

What if I comment in a post that OPs theory is flawed because it doesn't take into account the scientifically proven limited intelligence of niggers ?

Will that get deleted ?