Shadow banned from r/The_Donald after asking questions about the Ankara assassination in the Alex Jones AMA, ARCHIVES WERE DELETED. (Now a 3 day ban & some posts are back.) (Conspiracy)

submitted ago by sirylj

*I've made this post in other places here and on redit, and added edits/comments to it, so sorry for the length/repetition. I'm adding a comment below that I made in v/identitarian going over more details of the Ankara assassination that I can't add to this post because it goes over the character limit.

*Other places I've made this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnkaraAssassination/comments/5vns1x/shadow_banned_from_the_donald_after_asking/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5vnsqm/shadow_banned_from_the_donald_after_asking/

https://voat.co/v/Identitarian/1669280

https://voat.co/v/TheDonald/1669395

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowBan/comments/5vu1ah/shadow_banned_from_the_donald_after_asking/

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Last update: shadow ban is now just a 3 day ban. Still don't know why any of this happened...

UPDATE:

So the first comment is back now, but the others are still deleted, and I'm still shadow banned without any message telling me.

Here's the archive of the first comment deleted:

https://archive.fo/ZSmuB 23 Feb 2017 02:29:15 UTC

Here's the archive of it live:

https://archive.fo/vmfi3 23 Feb 2017 05:12:57 UTC

Still doesn't explain why it was deleted in the first place (wasn't because of spam, I didn't repost it until after the first one was deleted), or why they shadow banned me for just bringing it up, especially now that it's back in the thread.

Weird.

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Archive.is link of my user page: https://archive.fo/hTZcT (FUCK, JUST SAW NOW: I MADE ABOUT FIVE ARCHIVES BEFORE THIS ONE. THEY'VE BEEN DELETED.)

This is my original comment:

Have you looked into the assassination of the Russian ambassador in Ankara, Turkey?

I have pictures and video (still available online) that I think prove that this was a false flag hoax, that the shooting was staged with crisis actors, that there were "directors" present, that the dead shooter was a body double, and that the ambassador's coffin was empty.

Thank you for leading us in the Info War! 1776 WORLDWIDE!

spez: adding this from my comment below

  1. The ambassador falls on the ground spread straight backward spread out like a cross, yet in the beginning he crumples and falls to his left. There is also no blood on him or around him.

  2. Possible crisis actors are all cowering around a corner, still kind of in the gunman's sight, but there are about 3-4 people standing around the corner, standing straight, not moving or looking worried at all, just watching the others as if they were "directors".

  3. The shooters hand looks photoshopped in several parts. His finger looks about a third longer than it should be when he's point up, and it looks like he has 6 fingers. There's also a part where it looks like he is cupping his hand and not the gun, and that it is shopped in behind his hands.

  4. The shooter is lighter skinned and has longer thin sideburns in the pictures of him alive, but in the pictures of his body, his skin is darker overall without the rest of the picture darkening, his hairline, curls and eyebrows don't seem exactly the same, and his sideburn looks shorter and fatter, more blocky and bushy, more like a square. It doesn't go down to the same part of his ear as the earlier pictures.

  5. The coffin of the ambassador seems empty. There's a clear gap between the coffin and the fingers of the front two soldiers holding it up. They have their fingers curled in in a way that would hurt them and make it very difficult to hold up the coffin or keep control of it if it did have his body in it (the ambassador looked fairly large and heavy). Yet as they set the coffin down, it bobbles, showing that it looks like they are just holding an empty box.

  6. There is also quite a lot of symbology throughout the video and pictures, like the ambassador spread out like he is on across, the point up and down (as above, so below), and the dead body has his leg folded in a 4 like the hangman/joker card (can't remember which).

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Help...

edit: adding in an explanation I made in r/conspiracy, and more recent archive links of my user page at the bottom

Here's what happened:

I made part of the post in advance to post it as soon as the Alex Jones AMA started. It got about 30 upvotes, and someone made a comment under it asking if it was CIA. I responded with the six points I posted here and in other posts (and on my user page) going over why I think the evidence points to the Ankara assassination being a false flag hoax. (I original became aware of this from someone on YouTube who made videos breaking it down. I saved them, but they were later deleted. I have the videos and pictures, but the pictures and raw video are still available online, I just have the breakdown that the person made.)

After I made the second comment with the six points, I added it to the first comment so it was all in one place.

The comment got 39 upvotes, and then someone made a comment saying it was deleted. It was still showing up for me, so I checked it in a private mode browser, and it was deleted, along with the second one. I commented about it to that person and a few others I had just responded to earlier. One of them PM'd me to say it had been deleted.

I then reposted the comment with the beginning and the six points, prefaced with the fact that it had been deleted. I checked the comment in a private browser again right after making it, and it was already deleted.

I did this about 3 more times (five deleted in all, counting the original one I edited and the follow up that I added to it), each time adding at the top the number of times it had been deleted and the number of the attempt.

I also made a couple other comments about the deletions, with links to archives of my user page using Archive.is. These comments weren't deleted immediately.

After the fifth comment, and 2-3 other comments about this, I started to make a post outside of the AMA about this. But before I could post it, I got a error message that I couldn't post here. I checked, and the submit buttons were gone, and when I refreshed the submit page, it said I "forbidden (reddit.com)". I messaged the mods about this right before I tried to post the comment.

I made a AnkaraAssassination sub to post the comment in to make sure other mods can't mess with it. I made a post in /v/identitarian on Voat because I already had a page open there. When I tried to add the archive links of my post, I realized they were DELETED.

I had made about FIVE archives of my user page throughout this, and they were ALL deleted. I've archived the page since then and they are still up right now. I then made the post here, in AnkaraAssassination and BannedFromThe_Donald.

And here we are.

TL;DR comments were deleted, shadow banned, then archives were deleted somehow

https://web.archive.org/web/20170223041535/https://www.reddit.com/user/sirylj

https://archive.fo/HE6ka

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dwhipwhipplez ago

"3-4 people standing around the corner, standing straight, not moving or looking worried at all, just watching the others as if they were "directors".

Ya this isn't complete nonsense or jumping to conclusions at all. /sarcasm

No blood, standing around like "directors" Dude I can't even read anymore past that. Completely baseless conjectures. No blood? Like uhhh in movies and shit its really easy to just attach blood packs that explode. They just didn't go off?

you were shadow banned because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

All of what you are saying could be right but damn dude your rhetoric is pathetic.

sirylj ago

Did you read the comment I posted below from my reply in v/identitarian? I went over why the people standing around the corner seem completely out of place and not reacting like the others.

There's also the possible "directors", about 3-4 people who are around the corner of the wall and don't seem to be worried or panicked at all. There body language does not match what is happening. Someone has just been shot, and everyone else in the picture is trying to get to cover, kind of around the corner with some still in light of sight of the shooter. All of them are cowering down, crouched, hands up for some in a bit of a protective stance. None of them are standing straight, and they all looked worried. And then there is this anomaly of 3-4 people who are all the way pas the corner, and they are all standing completely straight, good posture, arms at their sides or seemingly holding equipment. They are looking at the people that are cowering or crouched, but they have zero reaction, not looking around at anything, standing there seemingly calm and not at all in the same state of distress that everyone else is in.

This picture has the ambassador and these people in the frame, from a position past the ambassador's podium and farther to the left of it, as if from the top right corner of the room if facing the podium.

I also went over why it is strange that there is no visible blood on or near the ambassador, especially considering his final position compared to how he fell. Also compare that to the blood in the pictures of the dead shooter.

He could have bled internally, and I'll get to the possible body double of the shooter, but given how much blood was in the pictures of the shooter, it is odd that there is not one drop of visible blood around the ambassador. If he fell straight back, it should have pooled at least a tiny bit under or around him, or be visible soaking into the back of his clothes. And if he rolled a bit from his initial position to his final position, it would also be reasonable that there would be at least tiny amounts of blood between to the two positions.

It's not rhetoric, I'm just describing the pictures and videos as I saw them.

edit: Read the entire post and comment before just dismissing the entirety of it, it's not just one standalone inconsistency, it's all of them together. There's also the shooters hands and sideburns, and the ambassador's coffin.

dwhipwhipplez ago

why would they not use exploding blood packs? ( this question still stands regardless of how much of your post I read)

yes its odd for people to not respond like the others, but calling them directors doesn't help you. Saying maybe something like, maybe they were apart of it or maybe these guys were aware of the situation and were monitoring it. Calling them directors though? I mean come on man.

State clear and objectively not crazy bs, other parts of your post are great. But baseless conjecture does not help convince people that don't believe you. We all here have a tendency to believe whatever is posted here. I surely believe things are conducted, society is manipulated, but that level of stupidity is hard to believe. But hey life is stranger than fiction sometimes. Brings to mind how we tried to assassinate Castro, they tried some really weird stupid shit. How can they be so incompetent and yet so cunningly manipulative? I would need an argument put forth that people are just that easy to manipulate. Which they can be given the right context. The end of the day ya, i just don't know. But your wording was really off putting.

sirylj ago

Fuuuuuuck. I wrote a long reply and lost it by clicking cancel because I thought it was for the preview. I'll write it up again later. Thanks for responding though.