Team Srayzie .. IMO these are the people that Putt choose to be included as part of his "new rules committee" over the past months...not telling anyone and w/a user who claimed to have left Voat.
Archive stuff you feel is important. SBBH engages in stuff like this all the time. They delete accounts, make news ones, wipe away the history of their propaganda by doing so and start another cycle. It's wrong.
Apply your ethics to everyone. Apply them to kevdude, to crensch, to srayzie, to vindicator, to expert, to Mick. Apply them to everyone. This spat you people seem to have going on is surreal.
I don’t agree with Putt in his choices. I have seen better content from the diy, gardeners, trad wives and few other places than from the filthy Jews Virge and Srazyzie.
I look to allegiances. Of course I'm conscious of who posts what content. She is maybe the only SBBH account that posts things I agree with.
GA/Pizzagate are both movements I agree with, but I'm positive the SBBH members that hold power there (Srayzie, Shizy, Vindicator, possibly kingkongwaswrong and of course Crensch) are all bad actors pretending to be good. There's a reason all of the content there is posted weeks after it lands elsewhere. They're not interested in promoting the message, they're interesting in slowing and halting it.
I deleted one comment reply once and I regret it because what do I give a shit what anyone thinks about me that is gay AF to police your own thoughts and speech.
I have deleted replies a few times but that was right after I hit submit. I thought I was being too much of an ass. Going back and history to clean up my response. Nah, why?
He fought tooth and nail against total transparency. I thought it was because he didn’t want to be caught as a deleting asshole but it was really because he knew Team Srayzie has multiple alts and they were causing problems.
He fought tooth and nail against total transparency.
Complete lie. Never happened once. I simply observed that you were afraid of transparency and you latched onto complete transparency in a counter-narrative.
I'll happily acknowledge I fully support ALL transparency, including complete transparency and the restoration of 100% of my deleted posts.
Your move, Israel faggot.
P.S. @crensch@kevdude@nadeshda@heygeorge (deleted and re-posted because I misspelled heygeorge and just recently found out editing with names doesn't ping them)
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You can’t prove it anymore because all those comments are deleted. You are lying to cover your ass!
Double lie, now you got caught. I haven't deleted anything for over a month, and you're talking about the conversations since then.
No, you only supported from X day forward. I’m the one who said open the can of worms. My history proves it.
Prove it. Show the evidence. You're the one who pivoted to change the subject to "full transparency", and then declared Putt would never do it. I fully support full transparency, including the full restoration of all my deleted post history. Now what, Israel faggot?
You just admitted to deleting content. It doesn’t matter if you haven’t done it for a month. You did. And you linked to a great example yourself!
I challenged you with full retro active transparency and you kept on saying you want it from X day forward. You even skipped all my comments you delete your shit. Deleting content isn’t transparent so your argument is forfeit.
Prove that I’m a liar by linking to your own deletes content!
Actually, since we both know you can't prove it with evidence, allow me to demonstrate:
"Look, your transparency only deals with possible problems that were created by having votes to begin with. I want full retroactive transparency to burn all the fuckers who were on vote brigades. Trust me, the good guys started a lot of the shit and shit posters reacted. Simple." - WhiteRonin (source)
And, of course:
"You don’t get it. I was saying full retroactive transparency because it would create such a shit storm it would be epic." -WhiteRonin (source)
It's easy. It demonstrates how you use full transparency only as a counter narrative, you yourself even parrot that you only want it to troll. Most importantly, You cannot prove I ever disagreed not because I deleted the comments as you seem to elude to, but because I've never said I disagree.
Check mate, Israel faggot. You only use "full transparency" as a troll and counter-narrative to the future voting transparency you fear so much, because it would show your actions for what they are.
For the final time, I 100% support all forms of voting transparency, in whatever fashion being future or retroactive, in addition to 100% restoration of my deleted posts.
There is no further move to play, you've lost the game Israel faggot. Hope your H1B visa expires and you go back to your own shithole country.
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Hey good shit! You linked again to the post that proves you delete shit and you cherry picked my comments.
Why didn’t you quote where I provided a solution? Or called you out? And you didn’t have a clue what full retro active transparency would do.
Why all of sudden you are ok with what I’m suggesting? Huh?
Oh, right. Some Syrazie alts got banned. The ones that were doxing people. And people had time to clean up theirs histories like you do. Yeah, we’ve seen lots of the shit being deleted.
I fully support full transparency, including the full restoration of all my deleted post history. Now what, Israel faggot?
Can deleted posts and comments be recovered indefinitely or at all? @SearchVoat
If you do support this and it is possible then I would also support it as it would prove many of the interactions we've had in the past that you denied we had (no throwing you a low blow - just saying)
But if it is not possible it just seems as a comment posted in order to divert from the criticism. Just, saying.
Maybe you have a better tech knowledge than I do u/virge. Would a website that had content deleted keep a record on this deleted content (posts and comments) and be able to restore it?
If it has it would imply a massive work load I would assume because not only the ones that do the work would also need to make sure to leave the doxxing posts and comments out of that.
If Putt has a soft delete on content then it’s recoverable. When you kill off an account you can soft delete which makes it hidden from voat. You also have an option to hard delete your account which wipes it from the database.
However!! If your content has been backed up before the hard delete command then technically it could be recovered. This however, depends on what kind of backups strategy Putt is using.
Posts deleted from voat.co remain on searchvoat.co, generally. However they may be deleted on searchvoat.co at any time by any user that searches for and finds the post, then hits edit/delete. At some point in the future @PuttItOut and I hope to implement an automatic procedure that accomplishes this without user intervention.
To be clear, I was only covering my position based on the accusations WhiteRonin uses to pivot conversations and put people on the defensive when he's losing an argument while being a subverisve troll faggot for Israel.
Put simply, all of you collectively have different opinions of why I deleted my posts, and so far you're all collectively wrong so I'm not afraid of them being restored in the first place.
Accusations! Wow big word when you have been slandering me for weeks. Ping me more often when you are chatting with Crensch so I don’t have to post your shit for all to see.
Well that is applying guilty by association, you know I don't do that. Any difference you have with u/WhiteRonin you will have to resolve them yourself with him.
He fought tooth and nail against total transparency.
Complete lie. Never happened once. I simply observed that you were afraid of transparency and you latched onto complete transparency in a counter-narrative.
I'll happily acknowledge I fully support ALL transparency, including complete transparency and the restoration of 100% of my deleted posts.
thelma ago
Team Srayzie .. IMO these are the people that Putt choose to be included as part of his "new rules committee" over the past months...not telling anyone and w/a user who claimed to have left Voat.
Womb_Raider ago
Archive stuff you feel is important. SBBH engages in stuff like this all the time. They delete accounts, make news ones, wipe away the history of their propaganda by doing so and start another cycle. It's wrong.
Apply your ethics to everyone. Apply them to kevdude, to crensch, to srayzie, to vindicator, to expert, to Mick. Apply them to everyone. This spat you people seem to have going on is surreal.
WhiteRonin ago
Virge was made a builder for one top 20 post. The others, did not.
Womb_Raider ago
Downvoating me won't change anything. Do you agree with the owner declaring certain people "builders" and "destroyers"? I don't.
WhiteRonin ago
That wasn’t me bro! Do you want a screen shot?
I don’t agree with Putt in his choices. I have seen better content from the diy, gardeners, trad wives and few other places than from the filthy Jews Virge and Srazyzie.
Womb_Raider ago
The trad wives (empress) are an arm of the same disease, even if their content is positive. It’s practically cultural taqiyya
WhiteRonin ago
She keeps her nose to her own sub most of the time so I don’t mind. She does push a positive content.
Interesting that you think that about content.
Womb_Raider ago
I look to allegiances. Of course I'm conscious of who posts what content. She is maybe the only SBBH account that posts things I agree with.
GA/Pizzagate are both movements I agree with, but I'm positive the SBBH members that hold power there (Srayzie, Shizy, Vindicator, possibly kingkongwaswrong and of course Crensch) are all bad actors pretending to be good. There's a reason all of the content there is posted weeks after it lands elsewhere. They're not interested in promoting the message, they're interesting in slowing and halting it.
WhiteRonin ago
Notice how those sBBh members you called out got run over by the militant side? We were fooled. But took action.
I tried warning PG but the warnings fell on deaf ears.
Womb_Raider ago
I love how you refuse to answer me
WhiteRonin ago
Huh? I’ve got a life and a job. Sorry, I don’t live my life for you.
But, putting snark aside.
What would you like answered? Basically, refresh my memory on what you are asking.
Womb_Raider ago
That's why you have commented 27 times since I made my comment to you?
WhiteRonin ago
You drunk already?
Off the wall comment that is posted as a question makes no sense is hard to comment back on.
Be straight with me.
What is your question?
Womb_Raider ago
https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/3318347/19613249
WhiteRonin ago
Ahh, that. I was too lazy to bother looking for it.
Why are you asking about imaginary people and their obvious Internet personalities?
That’s why didn’t answer you.
Makes no sense.
How many people have you met or at least talked with on the phone in person?
Womb_Raider ago
So, in other words, you will double down and avoid the questions, correct?
You are going to ignore my question and then follow up with your own? Is that what I am to understand?
Womb_Raider ago
Do you think the people I listed are good people? Do you think Beatle is a good person? Mick? Expert? Totes? Do you think they're all good people?
Kevdude?
Do you think them wholesome? Morally upright?
What of ProtectVoat... do you think it's ultimately fighting for what's right and good?
EpiPendemic ago
I deleted one comment reply once and I regret it because what do I give a shit what anyone thinks about me that is gay AF to police your own thoughts and speech.
WhiteRonin ago
I have deleted replies a few times but that was right after I hit submit. I thought I was being too much of an ass. Going back and history to clean up my response. Nah, why?
EpiPendemic ago
yup life it is too short
WhiteRonin ago
He fought tooth and nail against total transparency. I thought it was because he didn’t want to be caught as a deleting asshole but it was really because he knew Team Srayzie has multiple alts and they were causing problems.
virge ago
Complete lie. Never happened once. I simply observed that you were afraid of transparency and you latched onto complete transparency in a counter-narrative.
I'll happily acknowledge I fully support ALL transparency, including complete transparency and the restoration of 100% of my deleted posts.
Your move, Israel faggot.
P.S. @crensch @kevdude @nadeshda @heygeorge (deleted and re-posted because I misspelled heygeorge and just recently found out editing with names doesn't ping them)
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WhiteRonin ago
You can’t prove it anymore because all those comments are deleted. You are lying to cover your ass!
No, you only supported from X day forward. I’m the one who said open the can of worms. My history proves it.
BushChuck ago
He's a time-wasting shill.
Is this fuck stick part of putt's "builders"?
virge ago
Double lie, now you got caught. I haven't deleted anything for over a month, and you're talking about the conversations since then.
Prove it. Show the evidence. You're the one who pivoted to change the subject to "full transparency", and then declared Putt would never do it. I fully support full transparency, including the full restoration of all my deleted post history. Now what, Israel faggot?
You're a liar. It's that simple.
@crensch @kevdude @nadeshda @heygeorge further evidence.
WhiteRonin ago
You just admitted to deleting content. It doesn’t matter if you haven’t done it for a month. You did. And you linked to a great example yourself!
I challenged you with full retro active transparency and you kept on saying you want it from X day forward. You even skipped all my comments you delete your shit. Deleting content isn’t transparent so your argument is forfeit.
Prove that I’m a liar by linking to your own deletes content!
@puttitout Virge isn’t a qualified builder.
virge ago
What an amazing post full of evidence!
Ha ha ha. Hope your H1B visa doesn't expire soon, I'll miss you. <3
WhiteRonin ago
Sorry bro but I’m real life verified. Keep trying.
So, what am I wrong about?
WhiteRonin ago
You linked to the proof yourself dumb ass!
virge ago
Actually, since we both know you can't prove it with evidence, allow me to demonstrate:
And, of course:
It's easy. It demonstrates how you use full transparency only as a counter narrative, you yourself even parrot that you only want it to troll. Most importantly, You cannot prove I ever disagreed not because I deleted the comments as you seem to elude to, but because I've never said I disagree.
Check mate, Israel faggot. You only use "full transparency" as a troll and counter-narrative to the future voting transparency you fear so much, because it would show your actions for what they are.
For the final time, I 100% support all forms of voting transparency, in whatever fashion being future or retroactive, in addition to 100% restoration of my deleted posts.
There is no further move to play, you've lost the game Israel faggot. Hope your H1B visa expires and you go back to your own shithole country.
@crensch @kevdude @nadeshda @heygeorge I rest my case.
WhiteRonin ago
Liar liar pants on fire!
Go into that thread and source these statements!
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WhiteRonin ago
Hey good shit! You linked again to the post that proves you delete shit and you cherry picked my comments.
Why didn’t you quote where I provided a solution? Or called you out? And you didn’t have a clue what full retro active transparency would do.
Why all of sudden you are ok with what I’m suggesting? Huh?
Oh, right. Some Syrazie alts got banned. The ones that were doxing people. And people had time to clean up theirs histories like you do. Yeah, we’ve seen lots of the shit being deleted.
How many people are you gonna ping today?
@puttitout, your builder is a destroyer.
virge ago
@ideologicidal @SandHog @BlackSheepBrouhaha @PuttitoutIsGone
Because sound opinions are made by those I disagree with often.
ideologicidal ago
I have no dog in this fight.
t. a qew
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
I upvoted this, for transparency.
virge ago
This particular act is coming to a close, for various participants. History will not be kind to their behavior, I suspect.
virge ago
@sguevar @Nosferatjew @gabara @TruthDefender
Because I'm neutral in all this, ultimately.
WhiteRonin ago
@puttitout, your builder is saying they are neutral when he started a gambling bet on me. Is gambling allowed on Voat?
sguevar ago
Thanks for the ping.
I have quite a doubt here:
Can deleted posts and comments be recovered indefinitely or at all? @SearchVoat
If you do support this and it is possible then I would also support it as it would prove many of the interactions we've had in the past that you denied we had (no throwing you a low blow - just saying)
But if it is not possible it just seems as a comment posted in order to divert from the criticism. Just, saying.
Maybe you have a better tech knowledge than I do u/virge. Would a website that had content deleted keep a record on this deleted content (posts and comments) and be able to restore it?
If it has it would imply a massive work load I would assume because not only the ones that do the work would also need to make sure to leave the doxxing posts and comments out of that.
Maybe u/MadWorld or u/PeaceSeeker or even @Puttitout or @Cynabuns can clarify this doubt if you can't.
WhiteRonin ago
If Putt has a soft delete on content then it’s recoverable. When you kill off an account you can soft delete which makes it hidden from voat. You also have an option to hard delete your account which wipes it from the database.
However!! If your content has been backed up before the hard delete command then technically it could be recovered. This however, depends on what kind of backups strategy Putt is using.
sguevar ago
Thanks
WhiteRonin ago
You do also know that Putt can pull anon post/comment data right? I knew before he could but he just recently proved it.
sguevar ago
Yes I imagined that after he banned a bunch of people for the anon posts.
SearchVoat ago
Posts deleted from voat.co remain on searchvoat.co, generally. However they may be deleted on searchvoat.co at any time by any user that searches for and finds the post, then hits edit/delete. At some point in the future @PuttItOut and I hope to implement an automatic procedure that accomplishes this without user intervention.
sguevar ago
Thanks for the answer.
virge ago
I don't know. Regardless, I'd still support it.
sguevar ago
Fair enough. Thanks for the answer.
virge ago
To be clear, I was only covering my position based on the accusations WhiteRonin uses to pivot conversations and put people on the defensive when he's losing an argument while being a subverisve troll faggot for Israel.
Put simply, all of you collectively have different opinions of why I deleted my posts, and so far you're all collectively wrong so I'm not afraid of them being restored in the first place.
WhiteRonin ago
Accusations! Wow big word when you have been slandering me for weeks. Ping me more often when you are chatting with Crensch so I don’t have to post your shit for all to see.
sguevar ago
Fair enough.
I disagrre with your assessment on u/WhiteRonin but you and I reached an agreement that to my view can only help move past that and forward.
My concerns on vote transparency remain but if in the future is adopted I will accept it.
virge ago
WhiteRonin's behavior speaks for itself. Anyone on board with it is part of the problem.
WhiteRonin ago
Oh? Consensus building?
@puttitout, is this how a builder should act?
sguevar ago
Well that is applying guilty by association, you know I don't do that. Any difference you have with u/WhiteRonin you will have to resolve them yourself with him.
Much as what we did. So it is up to you u/virge.
At this moment you know where I stand. Thanks for the ping again.
Enjoy your weekend.
virge ago
Fair enough.
sguevar ago
@Cynabuns may have not gotten the ping.
virge ago
@Redcobra @thelma @Womb_Raider @argosciv
Enjoy.
WhiteRonin ago
@puttitout enjoy the brigade!
virge ago
@madworld @kestrel9 @peaceseeker @vindicator
Demonstrates the double-speak being used by the subversives afraid of voting transparency.
WhiteRonin ago
Lol, lol you are so stupid!
I provided functions and methods that could provide a solid transparent system.
Keep deleting your shit Virge!
virge ago
Link the exact comment, Israel shill.
virge ago
Complete lie. Never happened once. I simply observed that you were afraid of transparency and you latched onto complete transparency in a counter-narrative.
I'll happily acknowledge I fully support ALL transparency, including complete transparency and the restoration of 100% of my deleted posts.
Your move, Israel faggot.
P.S. @crensch @kevdude @nadeshda @heygoarge