The news that voat has a new "partner" has me nervous. I'm making contingency plans in the event that the partner turns out to insist on some sort of "curation," or if it seems like they're here to use voat as some sort of honeypot. If that happens I would like to remove every trace of everything I've ever posted to voat, but before writing my own script I wanted to check and see if this is work that has already been done.
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PuttItOut ago
Just delete your account.
We wipe all your data, including content replacement, when a user deletes their account (make sure you pay attention to the options as you can leave content or anonymize it too).
It makes me nervous that you are a janitor on a system sub and are posting submissions like this.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
FYI (and I'm sure you know), a good 40% of janitors and mods shouldn't be janitors and mods. That 40% accounts for a solid 25% of the issues with the Voat ecosystem right now. The other 75% of course being financing and essentially everything else you detailed in your most recent global sticky.
Voat is still growing and the poor moderators/janitors who help run the website are hindering it's growth, albeit by a fraction but enough to notice.
PuttItOut ago
@Cynabuns says the same thing. She should be the mod manager.
I'm curious though what you'd do to fix the mod problems. I think we agree it's an issue, but what is a solution?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
@Cynabuns certainly has brought up and continues to bring up great points in regards to the voat community.
The best solution to the problem right now would be to employ long standing community members to these positions, as these are the people who know Voat the best. Voat is in a critical stage right now of evolution and it's important to have these people effectively run the forums, just for the time being as the evolution takes place. This of course, would be a temporary action to ensure the voat ecosystem survival as voat begins to take more traction within the online community world.
Unfortunately, options are limited and I have put a lot of thought into how to remedy the issue, but of all the options available, employing the "old goats" is the safest security option for now. A successful way of employing this is to create a subverse where people can submit a "resume". Require all accounts applying to be older then 1 year of age, to be non-spamming accounts (i.e users who are not focused on only submitting links), to be active within the voat community and to prove they have moderation experience. Proving moderation experience is easy, especially if they have proof of doing so via evidence of where they moderate. There are countless forums online and I am sure many people from other forums, whether it be a forum related to cars, fitness or whatever. Once again, a temporary solution while voat evolves through this critical period.
Look at what happened to v/theunexplained - one of the larger subverses with over 13,000 subscribers, nuked and virtually inactive caused by a rouge moderator with hundreds of alt accounts. An account that which the voat community has identified as problematic and troublesome, and even documented it all on /v/ProtectVoat.
Lets just use me for this example.
I was a moderator on Reddit years ago for a handful of subreddits including but not limited to r/pizzagate, r/dankmemes, r/uncensorednews, r/dank_memes and others, all of which held over 100,000 excluding r/pizzagate which was unfortunately nunked by the anti-free speech Reddit admins. I have proof of having run these communities with the experience to back them. I was eventually removed from them due to my strong support of free speech and open forums while at the same time not tolerating shills and forum sliding. Things the Reddit community loves.
That's just one example and I am 100% sure there are others like myself on Voat who held similar position on Reddit and other forums as well. The subverse can simply be named v/ModApplications wherein a user, if accepted, can be given a janitorial or moderator role. The users would be "interviewed' by criteria such as their voat history, comment history and link submission history to ensure, as I mentioned before, they are not spammers, CCP farmers or the like.
A easy, temporary solution to protect voat and of course, those who are already effective janitors and mods would stay as they are most certainly needed.
argosciv ago
Yes, you were: https://archive.is/A4RtD
Added on Friday November 18, 2016 at 3:21:42 AM UTC.
You created your Voat account on July 7th, 2015 UTC.
Your first 2 submissions ever to Voat, the first being approximately 1 year, 2 months and 16 days(approx 444 days) after you created your account:
You became a moderator at r/pizzagate, 44 days, 22 hours, 55 minutes and 49 seconds after your second ever submission to Voat.
1 year, 11 months, 24 days, 9 hours, 22 minutes and 21 seconds later, you post your third submission ever to Voat:
When was r/pizzagate banned from Reddit?
r/pizzagate was banned from Reddit on approximately November 23, 2016, UTC: https://archive.fo/eiAUR
When was the Q/'~Awakening' Reddit exodus?
The banning of Q-related '~Awakening' subreddits from Reddit, began on approximately September 12-13, 2018, UTC: https://archive.is/oDpHB
Prior to this writing:
Here, it is claimed/implied that the explanation for the gap between your 2nd and 3rd submissions to Voat, was due to an inability to access the internet while serving in the
NavyCoast Guard:1: When @gabara mentions that you were active on Reddit, you completely ignore this and jump to talking about your uniform only/ribbons/medals only.
2: You finally respond to gabara on the subject of your being active on Reddit. Without mentioning Reddit you claim that,
To which @Caveman_in_a_suit responds with a screenshot of a navy.mil article contradicting your claim.
Here is the article that Caveman_in_a_suit shared a screenshot of: https://archive.is/OfOqG
3: When @Hydrocephalus and Caveman_in_a_suit begin poking holes in your story, especially the change from "Navy" to "Coast Guard", you threaten violence against Caveman_in_a_suit if they let you know the next time they're in Jersey.
Forgive me, but I find all of this to be very strange and it not only calls into question your ability to moderate with a stable mind, but also calls into question your motives and involvement(or lack thereof) with regards to r/pizzagate, r/GreatAwakening, v/pizzagate and v/GreatAwakening.
Especially considering that you were a moderator at r/pizzagate for only approximately 5 days before the subreddit was banned.
Perhaps you can explain this away and lessen my concerns?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
At least try to include any proof. You included nothing but comments I've already typed out as well as old links and random dates/times. There's zero proof of anything you're claiming because what you're claiming, Ive already explained with proof.
I expected something new to come up with you guys while I was asleep, but this is nothing once again. I think you guys are so fucking baffled that someone would come out so clean the first time without hiding shit, you guys cant believe it. That's got to be the case here because theres no other explanation as to why you guys keep trying and coming up with nothing
argosciv ago
Might wanna check the links buddy.
Claiming that I fabricated the dates, without bothering to check the links, is pretty fucking stupid.
I've demonstrated that you not only threatened violence in the face of your story being challenged, but showed some rather peculiar timing which also contradicts your story and presents new curiosities with regards to your lack of participation in the voat subverses best suited to your having been a moderator on r/pizzagate for approximately 5 days.
Anyone who bothers to fully read my comment and the supporting links, will see that nothing was fabricated in the slightest -- at least, not by me. Can't say the same for you, though.
You glow. A lot.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Yes, I absolutely did. Because someone telling me I didn't serve my country when I did, even after providing visual evidence, is a slap in the face and they deserve to be punched in the mouth. Cant take the free speech? Get the fuck off voat nigger
Once again, you only saw what I wrote and didn't see any of the visual evidence I shared with @Caveman_in_a_suit and @kevdude to back up what I was saying, which I absolutely did share and left all the dates. Once again, you never saw this so you have nothing to go off of.
Anyone who bothers to fully read your comment "supporting" what you said will either realize that I've already said all of this or if they haven't, is reading CNN grade bullshit narrative junk.
I do glow. Thanks baby cakes.
Once again, you and EVERYONE else, are back at stage 0
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
argosciv ago
Hey, glowing nigger kike, I've nothing against free speech at all - what your reaction showed, is that you're prone to being an internet toughguy, which is pretty sad if nothing else. Then when called out on it, you try to act like I'm trying to censor you - classic.
"Hey random internet person, come to my neighborhood, I'll fight you because I'm that tough"
Excuse me, but I did look at all the images, I even took the time to parse your shitty imgur links through catbox, because fuck your imgur Reddit aids.
Oh to be you...
Tell me again why you wanted to be a mod of r/pizzagate but then haven't participated in v/pizzagate or any of the ~Awakening subs on Voat, beyond 1 submission to v/GreatAwakening - but now suddenly want everyone to think you're the best choice for moderator anywhere...
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Oh look, again you've included NO NEW information and accomplished NO NEW discoveries. I have to keep repeating this because you jews don't seem to get it. But keep coming. Ive got all day for this!
argosciv ago
Thought you have work to go to?
Ah, so everyone who finds something off about your story, responses and activity, must be a jew - is that it?
You're not very familiar with myself or others here, if that's the line you're going to run with.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
I am at work jew boy.
Seeing as no one discovered ANYTHING remotely new or imperative, since you fat asses ate up all the stuff I already laid out for you and keep trying and trying and trying to come at me but have made no discoveries, yes. Jews. that's what jews do. you're a jew.
take my downvote THOT.
You guys can keep trying to attack me but you forget this is the internet and none of this means anything or affects anyone and is completely insignificant in life. like I said, I find this enjoyable. you guys are breaking your necks and backs over this but achieving nothing. I figured yall would vet hard, but yall haven't done shit.
argosciv ago
I'm not the one attacking, here.
I made nothing up about you, but, you've accused me of making things up, attacking free speech and you're downvoting as if it makes you powerful.
Nevermind how woefully inaccurate it is to call me a Jew. You say it to imply what, that I'm being subversive? What does that say about you, when you literally make completely baseless claims that I've fabricated timestamps that can be seen in plain view via the links provided?
Oh my the owies. How will I ever recover?
You're showing all the hallmarks of a powerhungry child.
Again, point me to your oodles of participation in v/pizzagate.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Oh, you're still here. With zero new shit on me (cause there is none). Nice try officer.
argosciv ago
Of course I'm still here dunce.
If that's all you've got to say, well, it's pretty damn clear that you don't want to address the peculiarities outlined in my original reply to you.
That will speak volumes to some observers. Several of whom, already agree that something is suspicious about your lack of visible participation in voat subverses relating to r/pizzagate.
Not that you'll answer, but, again I ask, why did you want to be a mod of r/pizzagate, considering that you've contributed nothing to v/pizzagate and only showed up here again after the Reddit Q/~Awakening Exodus - with a mere one submission to v/GreatAwakening?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
ill be honest. your comments have nothing new in them, so ive stopped reading them. holla atcha boy when you and all the rest of you jews actually make any progress. its been over 13 hours now with nothing.
you've got my cell.
argosciv ago
So, instead of answering the perfectly valid question, you now say you aren't reading anything?
"Gib me da proof!"
"I'm not going to read it!"
Gotcha.
Concerns not lessened - obvious bullshitter, powerhungy and likely has subversive intent.
@Crensch @kevdude
lets_get_hyyerr ago
yea, give it to me. But you cant cause you done have any.
you keep tagging @kevdude and @Crensch, but there has literally been zero discoveries since this all started. You keep saying this and that, but the only one here who submitted any legitimate forms of proof was I. Actual photographic evidence. You? Some links of shit I said hours ago. Weak minded and weak argument.
Call again plz
argosciv ago
I thought you weren't reading anything I'm saying?
How would you know?
Make up your mind, feeble one.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Aww, so only you can bitch about other people but no one can bitch about you?
RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME
fucking jew
argosciv ago
Oh you can do as you see fit.
But if you're going to run off to ping me to your bitching, like a feeble "REE!" screaming cretin, I'm just going to drop a link to the comment, here in this comment chain, so that people reading here can check the timestamps and see which comments occurred around the time of said bitching.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
You just bitched about it, got called out and doubled down. Cute.
argosciv ago
I thought your premise was "rules for thee not for me", not bitching.
You seem to like repeating what has been said by the person you're arguing with. Not a very creative one, are ya?
Lol. Relying on a Billy Madison quote.
Let's simplify the question, seeing as how you're clearly having trouble with it:
Why did you want to be a moderator of r/pizzagate?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Once again, RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME
You were mad someone was shitposting about you because apparently, in your world, you want to censor people talking about you so only YOU can shitpost about them. And yea I'm repeating the same stuff. There's nothing more to say because you guys haven't achieved any new discoveries and keep repeating the same stuff as well. You are doing the same exact thing lmao another "RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME" example. Only you can repeat shit but no one else can. You are one seriously hypocritical faggot lol
Why did I want to be a mod of r/pizzagate? Because they needed a bipartisan mod who could do their job without taking sides which is what I did while myself and the others were there before it got shut down. And also, because at the time it was discovered, myself and the other people knew we had found something troublesome and knew these kids needed some help. Why would ANYONE stand by idly and discover the abuses these kids were getting? If YOU have a problem with someone who helped launch a worldwide phenomena into helping children, you can literally jump off a cliff.
As I said before to others: here is the jist of it.
I gave you guys ALL the info you'd need on me before you had a chance to find it yourself. I was 110% upfront from the beginning and provided everything needed to back up my claims to @kevdude and @Caveman_in_a_suit because those were the people who deserved to see it. Since the beginning, nothing you nor anyone else has attempted to discover has been anything I didn't already say. You can say whatever you want about bullshit times and dates or whatever, I simply do not care. @TheBuddah corroborated my claims. I did tell someone i'd punch them in the face if I saw them in person for telling me I didn't spend some years of my life serving. I DONT care what you think of me and I certainly do not care what anyone else thinks. Absolutely zero new info has been brought to the table on me because I gave it to you all from the start. I keep repeating myself because you don't seem to understand it and you keep repeating yourself because there's nothing left to say.
In the end, I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing and I'm going to help voat whether you like me or not. I don't care.
And yes, I did use a billy Madison quote because billy Madison is a great movie and that's one of my favorite quotes from any movie
argosciv ago
Except I'm setting no rules and explicitly stated that you're free to do as you see fit - again, not that I create the rules, ergo, it's not even my place to grant you that freedom. Do please repeat it a third time, maybe it will become true then! I'd love to see that work for the first time ever.
There's that accusation again. Tell me, which one of us is downvoting the other? Because I can easily prove that I haven't downvoted you at all.
Finally! Was that so hard?
Now, if that's your response, care to explain why you haven't contributed to v/pizzagate? Y'know, seeing as how you care so much?
Is that some strawman and/or ad hominem? Regardless, where did I imply, even remotely, that I have a problem with someone genuinely helping to combat pedophilia? I did notice that your answer contains no mention of sexual abuse whatsoever, but, I'll let that slide.
Go ahead and explain why you haven't posted any submissions in v/pizzagate and have only made one submission to v/GreatAwakening.
Oh look, that's an agreeable point. Great. Except that you relied on the quote in and attempt to discredit valid concerns, so, you're still pretty feeble.
On that note, let's backtrack in the above comment for a moment.
Excuse me, but again, I suggest you check the links instead of accusing me of fabricating times and dates(or calling them bullshit, as you are now).
See, this is why you're still very questionable. Not only did it take simplification and however many comments of "REE!" from you, before you finally had an answer to "why did you want to be a moderator of r/pizzagate", but you continue to act as though I've made things up and as though I'm trying to censor you.
Not once have I done either of those things and moreover, even if I wanted to, I have no power to censor you and have given you ample opportunity to explain away my concerns - yet you continue to perpetuate them instead.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Billy Madison was a great movie
Jews did 9/11
Im not going anywhere
You've got nothing on me
Get used to me on voat