/r/gunsarecool on that "other" site is an absolute disaster of numbskullish garbage from people who hate guns. Fine, I don't care if that is their opinion, they can be jerks over there, but why does HenryCorp get to come to voat, steal a subverse from people who were just minding our own business, and ruin /v/gunsarecool?
At the very least, our subverse should be returned to us, and HenryCorp should be banned.
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MinorLeakage ago
The issue is, you can't really "take it back" without literally becoming what you despise. The unfortunate side of freedom and free speech is you will have to defend people you disagree with. If we violated our own rules to strip someone of their subverse and/or ban them, what would make us any different from SRS, etc? The fact that our opinions are "right"?
The best course of action is to just keep telling people about what happened, and try to prevent further abuses in the future. I also have a subverse I would love to "liberate", and it's even currently technically abandoned. I just can't bring myself to sink to the level of the assholes who stole it and perverted it in the first place.
Anyways, I agree that @HenryCorp is a real piece of shit. However I don't think the solution can ever be "just ban him and take it back". It has to be within the rules, for legitimate reasons. And unfortunately, HenryCorp generally follows the letter of the law, just not the spirit.
beren ago
I disagree. If someone walks up to me and punches me in the face unprovoked, am I an asshole for punching back?
NSASURVEILLANCEBOT ago
That's a terrible analogy.
beren ago
You're right, it is. But I don't agree that we would be "like him" if he boot him out and ban him. He is one person who doesn't like guns and wants to dominate and control the conversation like a dictator.
We are the community and we want to talk about guns because we like them and think they are cool. That's why we want /v/gunsarecool BACK. Because we want to post Hickok45 videos, and pictures of the SBR we just put together.
He is an asshole who wants to post about gun control and call us names. Fuck him. It's not like we are "silencing" him, he has his whole subreddit on reddit, which he links to from /v/gunsarecool, btw, just to drive traffic there. He doesn't care about voat.
The only way we would be like him is if we were the minority voice and we were silencing the majority, which is what he is doing.
MinorLeakage ago
The problem is that what you're describing is the mentality of many of those who practice censorship. By your same logic, what would happen if enough new Voaters signed up to make you the minority, and then wanted to do the same thing back? Would that be fine, in your opinion, since they are now the majority?
I am not trying to be confrontational or insulting, but what you're describing already exists. It's called Reddit.
NSASURVEILLANCEBOT ago
He got the subverse within the sites rules. Im not defending the fucking loser but these rules are what sets this community apart from others. This is why I came here. You can't pick and choose what aspects of free speech you want and who should have free speech and who shouldn't. It's time to move to a new subverse and not let this happen again.