Deaths at their lowest in 5 years (whatever)

submitted ago by Paranoiaattack

Funny how this biblical plague isn’t creating an excess of deaths this year

DEATHS LOWEST IN 5 YEARS

In 2015, a total of 2,712,630 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db267.pdf

In 2016, a total of 2,744,248 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db293.pdf

In 2017, a total of 2,813,503 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db328-h.pdf

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db355-h.pdf

2019, January – December month ending number of deaths, 2,855,000:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm

2020 number of deaths (all causes) through 11/28/2020, 2,654,825:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

FEWEST DEATHS IN 5 YEARS

WHO KNOWS HOW FAR BACK IT GOES

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Men13 ago

Here's how I know you're officially a liar:

The first thing you see on the CDC page for 2020 you linked is this notice:

Note: Provisional death counts are based on death certificate data received and coded by the National Center for Health Statistics as of December 4, 2020.

Death counts are delayed and may differ from other published sources (see Technical Notes). Counts will be updated periodically. Additional information will be added to this site as available.

You intentionally use incomplete data to pretend that the total deaths count is low.

Let's do the same calculation but to take the delay in CDC notification into account - let's use 9 months of data instead of 11, ok?

Paranoiaattack ago

There is an edit on the post

Men13 ago

How about writing how you misinterpreted the data?

I just removed the data from November - just November, adjusted the total, divided by 10 months to get the monthly average, then multiplied by 12 to get projection for the entire year

What did I get? 2,966,961 deaths.

How much is that above the previous years?

Paranoiaattack ago

Because regardless of your adjustment, it still doesn't indicate that we are in the midst of a plague of biblical proportions.

Men13 ago

no, its not of biblical proportions. its "just" 1% mortality rate (and insane infection rate)

but 150,000 dead americans? thats a huge number. because of government incompetance? that's a huge deal.

and because you (collequial you, not you specifically) refuse to wear a thin paper mask in public? that makes you a horrible human being that shoukd never ever have any say about morality

Paranoiaattack ago

I said at the beginning of this that if shitholes with no sanitary standards like india and africa aren't completely decimated (as well as the homeless population), then you'll know it's a bullshit virus equivalent to the common cold...and here we are.

Hide in your basement all you want, this is a scam.

Here's a good readjustment of the numbers for brevity as well:

Average number of recorded deaths in the U.S. 2015-2019: 2,792,917

Number of recorded deaths in the U.S. through 11/28/2020: 2,654,825

Men13 ago

And you lying again.

Number of recorded deaths in the U.S. through 11/28/2020: 2,654,825

This number is wrong, as I've explained twice already. It's an incomplete number which is clearly stated in the page you got it from.

The CDC gets death numbers from US morgues only once every few weeks, so they are missing a few weeks' worth of deaths.

You know that, because I've shown it to you multiple times.

So you are just intentionally lying at this point.

Paranoiaattack ago

And if you REALLY want to get that technical.....my OP says "Number of RECORDED deaths in the U.S. through 11/28/2020" and this statement is factually correct. Should there technically be a disclaimer stating there is a lag in reporting? Sure, but the other side refuses to acknowledge the co-morbidity issue so fuck them and fuck you.

Paranoiaattack ago

I HIGHLY doubt there is going to be a significant difference in that few weeks of data, not as much of a difference as you think there is anyways.

Besides that, the numbers are horseshit anyways because dying WITH covid is the same as dying OF covid: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/questions-over-the-accuracy-of-how-the-state-tracks-covid-deaths/283-0b1b7b6c-695e-4313-92cf-a4cfd7510721

Go ahead and keep screaming about the sky falling though, it's entertaining.

Men13 ago

I HIGHLY doubt there is going to be a significant difference in that few weeks of data

There's are over 2.5 million deaths per year. That's 50,000 per week. 2 weeks' worth of lag is 100,000 extra people dead.

100,000 dead Americans is insignificant to you?

Paranoiaattack ago

It is when they are not dying of covid in the first place

Men13 ago

Ok, so if not covid, what is causing the extra 150,000 American deaths this year?

Why are there so many extra dead Americans?

Paranoiaattack ago

Suicides from people sick of listening to mental midgets like you?

Difference between 2017 and 2016 is 69,255. So in a country of 328 million, that doesn't sound like a massive deviation.

But, to entertain the notion: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201117133908.htm

Hospitals shut down all 'elective' procedures for this scamdemic. Treatments were delayed. My dentist mentioned 'mask mouth' and infections are on the rise as a side effect.

Everybody's lives have been fucked with this year, there will be fallout from all this bullshit.