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If you grew up Mormon in the first half of the 20th century, you were likely to be taught over and over–in Sunday School, genealogy, and priesthood lessons, in stake and general conferences, in church magazines, books, and pamphlets–that you were literally an Israelite, directly descended from Ephraim. This teaching would come in at least two forms:
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The teaching one might call “Mormon Israelism” was that Ephraim’s descendants were scattered among all nations, but that almost all Mormons were Ephraimites (for some, even “pure” Ephraimites) because the people that had responded to the missionary message were the select few with Israel in their veins. It was taught (including by Joseph Smith) and assumed by some that the more pure the Israelite blood, the more open a person was to the Mormon message.
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Somewhat in conflict with this, you would also have been taught Mormon Anglo or British Israelism: that almost all Mormons were Israelites (and to some, pure Israelites), because the Saints were of Northern European stock (largely British), which was the place the not-so-lost tribes (mainly Ephraim) had settled.
In the 20th century, the main church leaders and authors who preached Israelism and British Israelism were Church Historian and Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith, apostle and First Presidency member Anthony Ivins, Asst. Church Historian Andrew Jenson, and officers of the Utah Genealogical Society such as Archibald Bennett and James Anderson.
In dozens of articles, books, and general conference talks, these men played a significant role in teaching a couple of generations of Saints that they were literal descendants of Israel, with detailed proofs that the not-so-lost ten tribes had settled either Northern Europe or Great Britain taken directly from the prominent British-Israel works. Anderson, in God’s Covenant Race, From Patriarchal Times to the Present, a 1937 book published by the Deseret News Press, even claimed (incorrectly) Mormon credit for starting the British-Israel Movement through the church’s 1830s missionary work in England (154-155). The 1938 and later editions of the book included an appendix with 127 pages of articles copied verbatim from the “Anglo-Israel Federation” magazine Destiny.
One collection of Mormon British-Israelism teachings was the 1942 Sunday School course book, Birthright Blessings; its 48 lessons included topics such as “The Chosen Race Being Gathered,” “Early Israelite Colonies,” “Mound Builders of Europe,” “Sagas and Civilization of Scandinavia,” “Who Are the Anglo-Saxons?,” “Early Welsh Customs,” ” Ancient Irish Pedigrees,” and “The Royal House of David.”
A very similar collection was the 1937 Junior Genealogy Class manual, Children of the Covenant. Its 40 lessons covered most of the Birthright topics mentioned and others such as “A White and a Blessed People,” “The Day of Ephraim,” and “The New Race of Israel.” The activity for one of the lessons instructed students to “Write a one page explanation, and read it in class or in a public meeting, of the topic: “My Heritage as a Descendant of Ephraim.”
Articles preaching British Israelism and Mormon Israelism were also common in the quarterly journal of the Church’s Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine.
Examples of this were the paired 1930 articles, “Mission of Ephraim,” by Joseph Fielding Smith, and “Children of Ephraim,” by Archibald Bennett.
The latter even contained a detailed explanation and ancestral charts explaining how the Norse God Odin (Woden) was ancestor of “most of the kingly and noble races of the north,” and therefore, of Anglo-Saxons and Mormons. Consequently, you can find Mormon family trees from that period that include both Odin and Thor (there’s a current example of this in my extended family). Odin is also discussed in detail in the Birthright Blessings and Children of the Covenant manuals, in a lesson called Sagas and Civilization of Scandinavia that recounts Icelander Snorri Sturluson’s Ynglinga Saga. Both books included a photo of a B.E.F. Fogelberg’s statute of Odin (the graphic at the top of this post).
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NoRoyalty ago
Your post confirms my own experience with a friend who is Mormon. She has a reverence for Jewish people and I have observed that her fellow church members seem to cherry-pick from the Old Testament, even referring to Sunday as the Sabbath.
70times7 ago
Saturday is the sabbath of Creation/4th commandment.
Sunday is the day of
antichristRome.THSenior ago
Stupid. You’re too dumb to know that the commandments were from higher ranking Jews to non-Jews.
70times7 ago
God wrote the 10 commandments with his own hand. Not man.
The irony of your insults mixed with the ignorance of your post, is not lost.
CantDentTheBrent ago
Did it like come out of the sky?
70times7 ago
Exodus 34:5 - And the Lord descended in the cloud, and stood with him there
CantDentTheBrent ago
How in the fuck is that possible dude????
Really think about what you're saying.
70times7 ago
Why wouldnt it be possible?
CantDentTheBrent ago
Why hasn't it ever happened again?
Edit: even better what proof do you have besides a book. We can prove things from the Egyptians but not a dude in the clouds??? That would be big news
70times7 ago
Who said it hasnt?
CantDentTheBrent ago
When? Where? Any proof of it besides Jewish fairytales?
70times7 ago
If you are so convicted scripture is "jewish fairytales", why do you care?
Its a thread about mormons and jews, and you come to say you dont believe any of this stuff?
Then why say anything? Need to feel important or something? Get a dog dude. They will make you feel better.
memik ago
"If you are so convicted scripture is "jewish fairytales", why do you care? "
Because retards like you get into positions of power and force your dimwitted beliefs on others. Case in point: genital mutilation of US male babies.
70times7 ago
Yeah, the 10 commandments create such an oppressive society.
You are in luck though. You are living in a time where mankind has rejected the simplicity of Gods 10 commandments, and now has 100 million laws for you.
It is your heaven. Enjoy.
memik ago
"Yeah, the 10 commandments create such an oppressive society."
You said it, not me. You're pivoting the discussion toward some bullshit. Stop arguing like a jew. We're not talking about the content of the the 10 commandments but about the belief that they were written by "god" and that your god is the one true god and that you think all the other gods and beliefs are followed by fools and you're not a fool because you follow the correct one.
"You are in luck though. You are living in a time where mankind has rejected the simplicity of Gods 10 commandments, and now has 100 million laws for you. "
You're living in the same time, retard, except in addition to 100 million laws you have also have to follow jew fairytale guidelines.
"It is your heaven. Enjoy."
Why are you talking like a teenaged retard? I know you're older, stop being a faggot. I don't believe in the same imaginary entities as you but it doesn't mean I have an inverse view of what is revolting in the real physical world. Your beliefs do not make you superior and you belittle yourself with your pompous attitude.
70times7 ago
Go read your first reply, then read that again.
I apologize for dropping down to your level of discourse and hurting your feelings in the process.
memik ago
Your argument tactic of imagining feelings and attributing them to your opponent is pathetically ineffective. You tried it on the reply to which I replied and now you're trying it again.
Your character is pompous, your writings are unoriginal clones of jewish thought lacking substance, and your insults are dimwitted.
I've went back and read my reply. You pose the questions:
Why say anything? Why do you care?
I care because I want to know the truth. I say things because I want others to know the truth. I want my beliefs challenged and to continuously hone my interpretation of the world.
You, on the other hand, would stifle such discussion. You would question why it should take place and attempt to derail it at every turn. You are an enemy of truth, whether by malice or ignorance.
70times7 ago
Your actual reply was..
Calling me a "retard". Claiming I "force" my views on others. Calling my views "dimwitted".
Dont whine because you get it back a little. And I mean a literal "little".
Gave you like 5% of what you gave me. Grow up ya baby.
Like you said, I am older. Older then most here. And have been studying this material for years. Hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of thousands of hours of study.
From babylon, egypt, greece, rome and everything else. From thousands of sources. Thousands of points of view.
From the writings of Josephus to Crowley. And everything in between.
If I was a "retard" like you defamed me, I would have dropped this the 1st time i read some low tier meme on a chan written by some 14 year old incel and jumped on the her der "jewish fable" bandwagon like so many have.
Dont cry when you get a tiny sliver of what you give out, back at you.
memik ago
Your views are dimwitted because you believe them to be infallible, because you think less of others for not believing the same fairy tale bullshit as you, and because you literally don't understand why someone would care or say something about a subject.
Secondly you're once again back to your stupid tricks of inventing feelings, attributing invented feelings upon others, and then telling me not to have the feelings which you've invented. Unless you're autistic I find no reason why you'd think I'm doing anything other than enjoying this conversation.
And everything else you said, while it contained words and names but had zero point. Where is your original thought? Why are you telling me about the books you've read? Why do you keep thinking I'm crying? Why do you think I'm 14? Why did you call me an incel? You're so far off the mark you couldn't hit an elephants ass with scattershot. And if you're so wrong about this very basic stuff how could you possibly think you have it figured religiously?
70times7 ago
smh.
And you wonder why people hate you.
Not my fault.
memik ago
I've never wondered that. Are you able to articulate why you HATE me? Or is this another one of your snotnose debate tactics?
70times7 ago
I dont hate you mate. Not in the least.
I pity you. And your parent(s).
memik ago
How could you pity me while knowing nothing about me? Very pompous.
70times7 ago
I pity you because you believe yourself strong, yet are fragile as a feather.
Believe yourself wise, but you are a fool.
Believe yourself learned, but you are ignorant.
I pity your mother for what she did to make you this way. She will be held accountable.
I do not hate you. I pity you.
memik ago
I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
You're a retard.
Your sense of reality is fucked.