It's really just the opposite. People who think we can Tarrant our way out of this are delusional. They will only succeed in fracturing white identity even further and turning even sympathetic whites against them.
Where you're right is that it will take more than just voting for president. It's going to take disciplined political organization and time. There aren't any shortcuts. I know lots of people don't understand this yet on Voat, but you will. Many of us are working on it.
Some people just can't see the bigger picture. Hitler didn't take power through holing up in the woods and not voting. Tarrant certainly did something impactful, but a political movement is also needed.
I disagree that Tarrant did anything impactful. In the long term the only effects of his attack will be that gun rights and free speech rights will be rescinded in Australia and New Zealand. There were people predicting an imminent race war or escalation of hostilities in the fallout of his attack (as people do after every attack of this type), but as we can see nothing significant has happened other than the removal of rights, and the long-term will bear the same result.
Awakened whites are a tiny minority of whites, and you say that all whites are already a minority. There are more whites against awakened whites than there are awakened whites.
This tiny fraction of a minority deciding to declare war on the entire rest of the world is the definition of suicidal. It's basic numbers. Even a five-year-old could tell you the same.
Hitler's Putsch failed miserably, and that was in a country where virtually everyone was his same ethnicity and implicitly agreed with his ideals. And the Putsch had thousands of people behind it! How do you justify believing that an even smaller force, in a minority-majority country, with most of their own ethnicity against them, will magically succeed where Hitler failed?
Why not try something that can actually work - wake up whites, gather together and secede?
A small minority can win military victories very easily but they cannot win political victories ever.
This is literally fucking backwards.
Tiny, disorganized, geographically scattered units numbering in the hundreds or low thousands don't win against monolithic, highly organized, omnipresent militaries numbering in the millions.
If you're going to hit back with "what about muh Vietnam" or "what about muh Middle East" or "muh guerilla war", guerilla wars only work when the guerillas are supported and covered by the majority of the population. This was the case in Vietnam and the Middle East, where the masses embraced communist or Islamist ideology respectively. Guerrillas not supported by the majority of the population get ratted out and destroyed, as would be the case with individual hardcore white nationalists versus the entire rest of the United States.
That "small minority" still outnumbers the US military 10 to 1.
Which "small minority"? Hardcore white nationalists ready to die for their beliefs? Or whites generally?
Because if you are talking about whites generally, you will need to win several massive political victories just to get them on your side in the first place.
The overwhelming majority of whites will NOT sign up for a war of eradication with the United States military and all non-whites. In fact the overwhelming majority of whites would actively oppose you, either physically and directly, or socially by ratting you out to authorities.
You are assuming that most whites will just magically support us. That as soon as a war is declared, white liberals, feminists, soyboys, apoliticals, cuckservatives etc. - who make up the majority of whites - will just flock to our side. You are implicitly assuming that we have already won the political victory necessary to get those people on our side. That is delusional and absolutely retarded.
They'd last about a month, then they'd be all gone, soft targets. Anyone who wasn't a "hardcore nationalist" would be at that point. lol
If ideological purity was the same as physical strength then the Germans would have won WWII rather than losing to the the culturally liberal and communist Allies. The Confederacy would have won the Civil War rather than losing to the multi-racial Unionists. Hitler would have won the Putsch rather than losing to the degenerate Weimar Republic. The hardcore Japanese kamikaze fighters would have won against the Americans rather than getting bombed into submission.
But they didn't. All of these groups lost because they were overwhelmed by superior organization and raw numbers. Ideological purity is not the same as physical strength. Only in your dreams.
In reality even a well-organized unit of "cuckservatives" with a numerical advantage can easily overcome a tiny and disorganized group of "hardcore nationalists". Ideology has nothing to do with it. If you think the fact that you ought to win means that you will win then you're a damned fool. Only numbers, resources, organization, and training count in the real world.
Again, you are delusional. Wake up. Stop living in a fantasy world where you magically always win.
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Juster ago
It's really just the opposite. People who think we can Tarrant our way out of this are delusional. They will only succeed in fracturing white identity even further and turning even sympathetic whites against them.
Where you're right is that it will take more than just voting for president. It's going to take disciplined political organization and time. There aren't any shortcuts. I know lots of people don't understand this yet on Voat, but you will. Many of us are working on it.
Delacourt ago
You're 100% right. I'm beginning to think people who agree on this basic fact should start our own subverse.
CameraCode ago
Some people just can't see the bigger picture. Hitler didn't take power through holing up in the woods and not voting. Tarrant certainly did something impactful, but a political movement is also needed.
Delacourt ago
I disagree that Tarrant did anything impactful. In the long term the only effects of his attack will be that gun rights and free speech rights will be rescinded in Australia and New Zealand. There were people predicting an imminent race war or escalation of hostilities in the fallout of his attack (as people do after every attack of this type), but as we can see nothing significant has happened other than the removal of rights, and the long-term will bear the same result.
Other than that, you're spot on.
vladtep ago
He also didn't take power with whites as a minority.
Hitler's political success cannot be replicated today and by the way, he failed.
Delacourt ago
Awakened whites are a tiny minority of whites, and you say that all whites are already a minority. There are more whites against awakened whites than there are awakened whites.
This tiny fraction of a minority deciding to declare war on the entire rest of the world is the definition of suicidal. It's basic numbers. Even a five-year-old could tell you the same.
Hitler's Putsch failed miserably, and that was in a country where virtually everyone was his same ethnicity and implicitly agreed with his ideals. And the Putsch had thousands of people behind it! How do you justify believing that an even smaller force, in a minority-majority country, with most of their own ethnicity against them, will magically succeed where Hitler failed?
Why not try something that can actually work - wake up whites, gather together and secede?
vladtep ago
A small minority can win military victories very easily.
That "small minority" still outnumbers the US military 10 to 1.
Delacourt ago
This is literally fucking backwards.
Tiny, disorganized, geographically scattered units numbering in the hundreds or low thousands don't win against monolithic, highly organized, omnipresent militaries numbering in the millions.
If you're going to hit back with "what about muh Vietnam" or "what about muh Middle East" or "muh guerilla war", guerilla wars only work when the guerillas are supported and covered by the majority of the population. This was the case in Vietnam and the Middle East, where the masses embraced communist or Islamist ideology respectively. Guerrillas not supported by the majority of the population get ratted out and destroyed, as would be the case with individual hardcore white nationalists versus the entire rest of the United States.
Which "small minority"? Hardcore white nationalists ready to die for their beliefs? Or whites generally?
Because if you are talking about whites generally, you will need to win several massive political victories just to get them on your side in the first place.
The overwhelming majority of whites will NOT sign up for a war of eradication with the United States military and all non-whites. In fact the overwhelming majority of whites would actively oppose you, either physically and directly, or socially by ratting you out to authorities.
You are assuming that most whites will just magically support us. That as soon as a war is declared, white liberals, feminists, soyboys, apoliticals, cuckservatives etc. - who make up the majority of whites - will just flock to our side. You are implicitly assuming that we have already won the political victory necessary to get those people on our side. That is delusional and absolutely retarded.
vladtep ago
Wrong, the American Revolution was not supported by the majority and less than 10% fought.
Same applies to the rest of your drivel.
Delacourt ago
Nope. Wrong again.
40-45% of the white populace supported the Patriots. Only 15-20% supported the Loyalists. From numbers alone the outcome was very clear. Here is an actual source from a real historian.
If ideological purity was the same as physical strength then the Germans would have won WWII rather than losing to the the culturally liberal and communist Allies. The Confederacy would have won the Civil War rather than losing to the multi-racial Unionists. Hitler would have won the Putsch rather than losing to the degenerate Weimar Republic. The hardcore Japanese kamikaze fighters would have won against the Americans rather than getting bombed into submission.
But they didn't. All of these groups lost because they were overwhelmed by superior organization and raw numbers. Ideological purity is not the same as physical strength. Only in your dreams.
In reality even a well-organized unit of "cuckservatives" with a numerical advantage can easily overcome a tiny and disorganized group of "hardcore nationalists". Ideology has nothing to do with it. If you think the fact that you ought to win means that you will win then you're a damned fool. Only numbers, resources, organization, and training count in the real world.
Again, you are delusional. Wake up. Stop living in a fantasy world where you magically always win.
vladtep ago
Doesn't matter, if you can't win militarily then you are jolly well fucked politically so...lol