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Grunge ago
they can't do shit without their censorship, dumb commie fucks.
fluhthreeex ago
HAH! Good thing they can't talk here! Fuckers!
Grunge ago
well they can, but they will just be called out on their shit, which would never be allowed on their little safe spaces and they'll be in for a shock.
fluhthreeex ago
which is fantastic, and why they should be welcomed here.
come, try to change my mind. do it. am i afraid of new ideas, thoughts, or opinions? no. why should anyone else be? it looks like they just post pictures, which is what most people here seem to love anyway.
I'd rather see news, sources, citations/references though, personally.
the Q brigade was handled by taking the Q sub out of /all, if their sub ever became a problem the same could be done for them
Hysterics7787 ago
Also as a side note, the Q subs regularly fill up the "Most viewed in the past 24 hours" section. I used to actually enjoy that aspect of Voat, seeing what Voaters thought was most interesting. Now it's basically "The most outrageous clickbait from Qforums in the past 24 hours" and it's nearly all complete horseshit without a shred of evidence. Now whenever a new user comes to Voat they're hit with a list of Qtard delusions. That's bad enough, I don't want new users to also be met with a wave of loli bullshit.
Anyways Voat as a long history of dealing with borderline pedophiles, they're not tolerated here. It is what it is. You're not going to rally up sympathy for those kind of degenerates by going on about 'muh censorship'.
Disagreeing about politics is one thing, but I'm pretty sure that even a fucking communist piece of shit would acknowledge that preying on children isn't to be tolerated. It's sort of a human universal. Something that we can all set our differences aside to agree about. Even if they're not actively preying on children, if they're getting off on the idea of preying on children they're basically a ticking time bomb. You can't view them from a rational perspective, or make excuses for them, because it's akin to mental illness and the mentally ill do not behave rationally. It's easy to say oh it's just loli anime there are no actual children being harmed, but promoting that in the first place is crossing the line. This shouldn't effect normal people because normal people don't fantasize about children.
It shouldn't be some convoluted issue that we have to hash out. They get off on the concept of diddling young children. Denounce it or acknowledge that you embrace Evil.
fluhthreeex ago
Thanks for the reply.
LOL'd at the first paragraph. Agreed. Wish there was a way to solve this... They came to Voat exactly how the animemes troll did, essentially: spamming and farming up-votes. If the animemes posters were to get banned from Reddit, they would all go somewhere regardless. A lot of people here didn't get banned for posting illegal content. I don't know anyone here, actually, who was banned for posting illegal content on Reddit.
I've heard. You have to remove the content. However we're not necessarily talking about something that's illegal. IANAL, and don't follow this, but from the links I saw ages ago the courts had decided that drawn pictures aren't considered illegal.
Whether it is or whether it isn't, I think it's funny that people on a site (although I think most people were just doing it for the humor of it) while advocating genocide for Blacks and Jews would call this (https://archive.is/cyUOt - the few pictures at the top from 1 day ago snapshot is what I saw) morally reprehensible, evil, and something that needs to GTFO.
IIRC, the sub is a place PewDiePie has pulled memes from and talked about a few years ago when he was recommending Anime.
Do you know the specifics of their ban? I would imagine either they gave little to no information or to them it was "offensive" content.
Hysterics7787 ago
My point was that the only people who will get banned from Voat are people who do post illegal content. While Reddit will ban you for pretty much any variety of wrongthink.
I know, but I just can't sympathize with them. I realize that it's not strictly illegal. However it's one of those things that I feel shouldn't be tolerated and I think I did a pretty good job of explaining why in my previous comments so I won't bother repeating myself. It's a personal opinion. I can't really begrudge you for defending them as you're not technically wrong, it's not illegal behavior. However like I said before, I feel it shows intent and highlights a pretty severe mental illness which could easily manifest in illegal behavior. There's a ton of shit I personally disagree with that I would go out of my way to support people being able to talk about. I can't emphasize that enough. I'm not one of those "Free speech for me but not for thee" people. However, "artistic" depictions of underage women, I mean look into the "loli" community a bit, they're supposed to be depictions of women age 4-12 specifically. If you're beating off to the concept of a twelve year old you deserve a bullet in the head. That's my personal opinion. So I won't be spending any time defending people I genuinely believe shout be used as fertilizer.
Yeah I get that. Think about how in Prison, child predators are almost universally looked down upon and end up brutally murdered on a regular basis. In a room full of criminals, people who prey on children have no friends. Really think about that for a minute. Like I said in a previous comment, this is something that I feel people of all political beliefs can get on board with. Doesn't matter if you're Antifa or the Alt Right, you should be able to recognize that fantasizing about sexual relations with children is pretty fucked up. Also a lot of people here don't really promote genocide of Blacks, most of us just want White countries for White people, and Africans have a whole fucking continent they can have. Same with Asians. The only people who really don't have a homeland are the Jews because they've managed to fuck over every nation that has accepted them, having been thrown out of hundreds of countries in their history as a people. Even then, most people here wouldn't promote the genocide of Jews especially if Jews would stop fucking with the rest of the world ( but I doubt that's going to happen. ) Blacks only threaten us because of their proximity, if they were in Africa they wouldn't effect us whatsoever. Jewish people on the other hand... There's a pretty solid case for them pushing the genocide of whites, do these animeme kids have a similar defense for why they require images of children to beat off to?
Well I used a fair amount of specifics in that "pandering" which you could attempt to argue. I explained in detail how censorship on Reddit works compared to what you perceive as censorship on Voat. Instead of summing that up as pandering you could explain what aspects I was incorrect about?
Again, I've been very specific. You haven't even really said what it is you don't like either. You insinuate that these people can't talk here, but no one was banned. If I was to go to Reddit and start talking about my personal beliefs I would actually be banned and that would be on top of a massive number of downvotes. So I don't really understand your criticism, and you don't really go into much detail. So... be specific, or GTFO nigger?
Yeah... because it was banned recently. Have you looked into this stuff at all? They were all talking about it in their sub. They can't post those memes anymore. If that sort of stuff continues to get posted and the moderators don't shut it down then Reddit will ban the sub altogether. That's my understanding from having seen their discussions about it. So it makes perfect sense that you wouldn't see any of that?
Again you really need to do some research. Loli is a depiction specifically of a female between the ages of 4-12 and they specifically have flat chests to indicate this. That's not my opinion. That's more or less the definition.
Yes. Again, feel free to do some research about what you're talking about before you write out essays that essentially highlight that you don't really know what you're talking about.
No, I just don't support pedophilia.
I went into great detail about what I said, which is why I spoke of intent. I understand it's not strictly illegal. However I do not require a Government to tell me what is right and wrong, and I'm pretty disappointed that you do.
fluhthreeex ago
That's was you? Regardless. I responded to a different voice.
It's odd you're unaware that a prevailing opinion on this site is that, while among that all Blacks should go back to Africa--yes, they should be gassed, and also that Israel and all Jews should be Gassed (Hitler was only wrong because he didn't do what they claimed he did).
Really think about what? This isn't a room full of criminals so I'm not clear on what you're getting at. We can talk about the psychology of criminals if you'd like and how people in prison like to have a hierarchy, think some of them are better or worse, whether they are or aren't, and the eternal question of "whether some sins are unforgiveable", but I don't think it's necessary, productive, or relevant.
I was very clear, but can elaborate on this more if you want:
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Like I ask you "do you know the specifics of their ban? I would imagine either they gave little to no information or to them it was "offensive" content."
I'm not going to go visit Reddit unless I really, really feel like it. I don't.
I'm framing this and always have framed this in the context of free speech.
Hysterics7787 ago
I made two separate analogies to explain the point. It shouldn't matter where you align morally, everyone tends to agree about this stuff regardless of political affiliation or social standing. You should at least recognize the point I was trying to make instead of getting hung up on the analogy? I wasn't being cryptic.
But that's the format of the website. Upvoats and downvoats. It's supposed to essentially be user curation. Free speech also includes the right to disagree. There are websites like Gab with a different format, that wouldn't have those issues? I just find it weird that you would want to come to a website designed like this, then complain about the very structure that website is based off. It's not like it's some conspiracy, you're complaining about a fundamental aspect of the website. I'm not saying you don't have the right to feel that way, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If I had the same set of beliefs I'd probably be on 8ch or Gab. I'm also not saying you don't belong on Voat, I'm just saying it doesn't really make sense to me. Is what it is. People disagree about stuff.
Fair enough I was probably unnecessarily snarky here.
It's funny how much hate there is for Reddit on this site considering how often people talk about it thus showing that they're visiting it. I feel you. I avoid going there, but I wasn't about to write a bunch of shit about all this on mere hearsay. I mean, I actually started doing that, then checked myself and was like no if I'm going to spend the time responding I'm going to spend the time looking into it because as I'm sure we can both agree on there's a lot of bullshit that gets promoted everywhere and we shouldn't just trust post titles and what the hivemind seems to think. So I went over to their sub and looked around a bit, It seems to be a similar situation to others like T_D where the admins told the moderators of the subreddit to do a better job of "curating" the "problematic" material their users were posting. It's another push of censorship on Reddit, but it's not one I really give a shit about for the aforementioned reasons. I have zero sympathy for those sorts of people. General anime memes, I don't care. I've watched anime. There's nothing inherently wrong with anime. Your waifu isn't real though. But there's nothing horrible about anime. The loli shit though, the way that they themselves define it is pretty fucked up and I realize it's not illegal but that doesn't stop that guttural instinctive feeling I have about those people. I'll fight for all sorts of peoples freedom of speech. I'm not going to fight for borderline pedophiles. Again, people disagree about stuff. Is what it is.
fluhthreeex ago
I elaborated in the rest of the paragraph.
There may be a better solution. Some people like to solve problems by discussing them. Complaining, protest, and free speech is the essence of Voat and fundamental to some countries.
It's along the same lines as FB.
lol
2fast4u92 ago
Which one? There are like 3 Q subs shitting up /all
fluhthreeex ago
hm yeah true... kind of nice when they were in the private one
Ina_Pickle ago
We did welcome them. Gently even. Those were some weak redpills.