If you've noticed there's an artificial movement on the online surface to promote hatred of people who even question the authenticity of vaccines or their safety when you realize that this is all because of the fact that it is Big Money that they came out from insurance companies and consumers and most diseases aren't even covered by vaccines because they mutate fast then you'll realize why vaccines aren't really important exposure is
Another exposure means being exposed to someone who is contagious, like you get it when you're a child, you've got immunity until late adulthood, but if your kid gets it when you're in young-mid adulthood, and you are with your sick kid, you get a boost to your immunity lasting the rest of your life.
Its all due to the fact that saying such a thing about third-worlders would be considered racist and its better to go after those people who do not accord with the system and the government's desires. In the end it kind of proves why the system and government needs an overhaul and third-worlders need to get kicked out of the country.
I'm all for personal liberty but the logic behind the herd immunity concept of immunization is not only obvious but the outcome has proven highly effective in stomping out diseases in herds that have been immunized.
I can get on board with most of the wingnut conspiracy theory, but the anti-vax thing is simply, obviously, painfully clearly stupid and wrong.
Since I support personal liberties, though, I suggest we don't force people to take any vaccine even if it's important for the herd--instead just throw them out of the country. Also, since we can't be sure the illegals have been immunized they'll need to go as well.
I'm 61. When I was 6 years old EVERY kid got the measles, mumps and chicken pox, everyone of them. In fact, if you didn't get the measles your parents would worry that you'd get it when you were older as it can leave you sterile if contracted at an older age. The world didn't end, schools didn't even note the outbreaks, they were no big deal. This is all about Vaccines and big pharma.
Because being anti-vac means challenging the status quo, it shows that you have the ability to think critically and dont just drink the koolaid when you are told to. Governments and normie NPCs hate this, hence the "stoopid anti-vac" meme...
Whether they are correct in their views or not is beside the point.
No it's not, being able to think critically also includes arriving at the correct conclusion, just challenging the norm for the sake of the challenge is being contrarian, which is really fucking stupid when it comes to public health.
Strangely, alot of meme pages all are doing the anti-vax thing. Its a shame, theres a ton of promise in the the meme page users. They all at least try to reject the programming.
On a side note, The use of welfare and the government can be compared to medicine and drug companies.
I'm glad someone brought this up. I remember the measles well! I am 60 years old and when I was young I had the measles three times! What I remember from my mother is there is "3-day measles" which you can get more than once before your immune and then German measles which you can only get once but is more dangerous. Most everybody in my midwestern school got them as well as mumps, chicken pox and every little cold. Anyway, my mother never seemed to concerned about 3-day but she was for the German. Don't remember ever going to the doctor for it, just stayed home and good old mom took care of me. So I told my wife "Nobody dies from measles!", then googled it to find 2.6 million people died of it in 1990 although it is down to about 100,000 they say right now because of vaccines. BUT, further research reveals that they don't die from the measles at all but rather pneumonia (not that the manner of death is any consolation) I'm just pointing out that it's children in 3rd world countries (or here of course) that are malnourished and low immune system. Children (and adults) like us in the 60's and and now who are healthy,strong and have good immune system not only will be just fine but in my opinion will be better off in the long run because you let your body do the job it was designed to do and built your immunity naturally.
Well numerous immigrants come in and spread the diseases then they'll find one American kid that wasn't vaccinated and blame it on that while ignoring the herd immunity that was supposed to prevent this kind of thing. Hell, now they don't even bother with doing their research half the time on who was vaccinated or who wasn't. They certainly don't bother verifying the outbreak of these diseases was brought on by an illegal immigrant. All they do is just assume and blame it on the anti-vaccination groups. No real research is done because even at a basic level, they'd find that the vaccinated, in many cases, aren't protected. They'd find out illegal immigrants brought it into the country.
Well numerous immigrants come in and spread the diseases then they'll find one American kid that wasn't vaccinated and blame it on that while ignoring the herd immunity that was supposed to prevent this kind of thing.
By letting in the vaccinated sand&taconiggers you fucking compromise the herd immunity.
Did you ever think about the amount of people that'd be needed to offset herd immunity? Let's say in the caravans there are 50k people all unvaccinated, which is btw. highly unlikely since mexico has higher vaccination rates than the U.S., but let's be the devils advocate here ;) , this is such a small drop that a caravan on itself can't make a significant dent in herd immunity. Also what I did not metion yet is the migration that preceeded this debacle never infact caused a similar outbreak, yet after 5 years of constant stupidity and anti-vax movements we actually do get an outbreak. To blame are the stupid cunts who don't vaccinate, be it the American or the Mexican.
You do realize these people will have to be vaccinated when they enter, right? Also, believe it or not, they do get vaccinated by their own doctors and aid groups overseas, moron.
I think its because both issues are nearly equal in representation. I've heard something like 30 mil illegal immigrants are here. Looking at the stats for people getting waivers from their gov so they dont get vaccines are higher than you realize. I don't want to link any specific news source for this, but they all seem to be in agreement. You have anywhere from at a minimum 3% to 6% of each states population getting these exemptions. These are the people that in the system and have gotten the exemption. How many are illegals and likely not counted in the system of exemptions. Also not to mention the HB-1 visa guys, but im ignorant of any rules surrounding those visas.
Spread diseases via 3rd world forced migrations, part of Agenda 21. Talking about holocausts! The cabal will be on the world book of records!
And I agree with Warnos, it is mostly conservatives who are anti vax. And yes, anti poison is better said. In Italy, Salvini fired the whole vax board and nominated new people, who found straight away there are no antigenes in vax, only rubbish destroying human health.
They aren't. The media is because its pushing the agenda that you have no right to your own body. The people jumping on this are just idiots who think what they're told.
Even if there wouldn't be any illegals, anti-vaccers could still get infected when they travel somewhere and then can cause an epidemic back home. Last two epidemics in Finland were like that, anti-vaccers traveled somewhere and caught something and spread that around in their cooky religious events first and then in hospitals.
Maybe would be the best to deny anti-vaccers from traveling anywhere where they could catch something. And vaccinate migrants with everything as soon as they come ...forcing migrants to take vaccines might even cause those migrants not trusting western medicine not coming at all. Anti-vaccination is a big hit on Somali communities apparently.
You can tell it's actually third-world savages infecting everybody because there's not one fucking mention of WHO fucking has it. They dance around the issue, carefully piecing together every word to avoid even the faintest hint that might make "white supremacists" appear correct. They say things like "in an area where vaccination rates are low" instead of "in an area with a lot of anti-vaccination activity." Not one fucking victim is identified by photo or name anywhere I can see. I wonder why.
As much as I agree with keeping spics out, isn't a little ironic to say "it's not the recent anti vaxxers its the damn lifetime anti vaxxers" Now, I don't get flu shots, they are a roll of the dice anyways. But mumps, measles, hepatitis, polio, etc. We don't need that shit floating around.
"Nicer neighborhoods" here in Shitlib USA are full of illegals that get employed by rich people as gardeners and nannies and housecleaners--HUGE vector of infection to have some illegal from bumfuck, mexico in your house and around your children.
So this is what I dont get about the people claiming parents who domt vaccinate their kids, are to blame.
If you have 10, 100 or even 1000 kids that are not vaccinated, all in school, they're not going to spontaneously get measles, right!?
But if you have people coming to our country from countries which dont have a measles vaccination program (God bless BillyGates, boy does he and his non-profit try their hardest... they put chemicals in their vaccinations that they administer in Africa, which prevent the person from either having viable sperm or able to get pregnant!), you will have measles being reported!!!
I'd love to know, they can strip any personal info, the analytics on these people. Do they work in some capacity, near or in the same facilities/areas/buildings as these measles infected illegal criminals???
This may be a new method that I.C.E. uses to hunt down large populations of illegals!!! Hah, well only 1/2 joking... but they could ask hospitals and clinics to report to them when they receive above a certain threshold, patients that have measles... although these types of facilities often times have liberal execs so theyd probably hide their numbers from them... theyd need to request the info through an intermediary, like a non-profit or some innocent non-immigretion/deportation focused government agency...
Once you get it- it’s done. You’re immune. That’s it- it’s over.
Well, technically no. You need a booster as adult - so parents taking care of their children with measles or chicken pox got a booster (without getting sick) and then there was life-long immunity. Both viruses are so much worse as one ages that they are considered a different disease (shingles?).
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I just noticed that if you go to that other site you will see a noticeably higher uptake of memes that shit all over anti vaxxers, deservedly so obviously.
Mockingbird social media is once again demonstrating its efficacy in shifting the blame and all the sheep are lapping it up.
Is it weird that I noticed there were a couple of anti-vaxxer posts on the front page of reddit, and then when I came back to voat there was an anti-vaxxer post on the front page?
probably just a coincidence, right? Nothing to see here, goyim...
If you agree that the target audience of both websites are extremely different, and you ignore the fact that "votes" can be artificially generated to give the appearance of popularity, how would two different audiences "organically" promote the same discussion? The question is, who benefits from getting the Internet (which is not computers but really people) to argue about vaccinations and not something else.
It's not the topic of the fight that I care about, but the fact that it seems to be coordinated across platforms.
Truly nothing that anyone is fighting about right now matters anyway. Trump is a Zionists puppet and Q is their brilliant psyop to keep those who would do something from doing anything.
All the people everyone wants arrested/dead will just be replaced by more of the same if we fail to purge the Rothschild/Zionist/Chabad influences.
I say this and I get labeled jidf.
Anyway I actually think it does good for people to be aware of the history and events of vaccines. Hell of a lot more productive than gnawing on fingers hoping this time they'll be locked up.
Trump is a Zionists puppet and Q is their brilliant psyop to keep those who would do something from doing anything.
Probably. It's hard to argue he isn't when he aligns himself so hard with Isreal. Q got boring so I quit watching that show. I'm more of a South Park fan...
What you basis for that summation. Was the link I posted to a natural news article inaccurate? Are you also anti health ranger. Do you still believe there is a two party system in the USA?
You really are a shit for brains, huh? That article, and many others on "naturalnews", is made up bs. How does it feel to fall for such an obvious hoax article?
Jup, I always want to know how people come to support clearly false and/or idiotic stances with no supporting evidence from actual, reputable scientists.
The media is just flexing their outrage engineering assets. They need to prove they're still in control. It's important to use this engineered hysteria against them. Ask sheep(how they see us) to compare deaths and chronic conditions from measles vs. deaths and chronic conditions from MMR vaccination in the past ten years. Don't even look it up. Just have them do it. They'll learn that vaccine courts exist. No one can justify vaccine courts if they think vaccines are safe. If they can think independently at all, the seed will be planted.
Add another one: vaccine now has greatly diminished efficacy. Had outbreak in my community last year. Half of those that contracted it were previously vaccinated. Health department shut the fuck up about it real fast.
Island has 200k permanent residents with transients in the millions with mandatory vaccination required for all immigrants. Outbreak burnt out on it's own. No clustering in schools so original infection was probably in the retail/ tourism sector.
That's actually pretty interesting information. Diseases can mutate over time, changing the effectiveness of a vaccine, assuming the vaccine worked in the first place. The tourism industry is going to expose people to all sorts of weird things.
We have outbreaks related to tourism all the time but it's heavily suppressed (like all the tourist drowning deaths). 2 years ago there was an unpublicized norovirus outbreak. Entire neighborhoods crippled. We also have an oral syphillis problem here because tourist think buying BJ's in safer than penetrative sex and have an extra flu season because of southern hemisphere folks.
Was just there, reading up on drowning deaths was pretty surprising tbh. I can see it being pretty common with older folks thinking they can suddenly swim a mile to see some fish.
This has been true for every whooping cough/pertussis outbreak I've heard about, as well. The outbreaks happen among school age kids (just like you'd expect) who have had all their booster shots for it, but they've all worn off.
I got 2 years from discussions on pregnancy forums about current recommendations for people who will be in contact with newborns, so the standards are probably higher than in the general population. People in that group are recommended to get the vaccine every 2 years, though, because immunity wanes after that point. Here's a CDC link.
Remember when you were taken over to your friend's house as a kid when he had the measles so that you could get it, too? That was the only measles vaccine any kid ever needed.
Even the Rugrats cartoon in the 90s had the kids get the pox on purpose. I'm not sure what today's cartoons would say though, it would probably be some kinda vax propaganda.
Salt water is full of sodium chloride molecules. are not poisonous and reactive like sodium metal and chlorine gas because they are electrically charged atoms called "ions." ... The chlorine has one extra electron and its outer electron shell is complete, so like sodium it too cannot bond with other atoms.
No he's comparing equating thimerosal with Mercury is like equating salt and chlorine or water and hydroxide.
A molecule does not necessarily have the same properties as it's component elements or else water (Hydrogen and oxygen) would be explosive like it's component atoms.
Thimerosal is a compound that contains mercury. Mercury is a metal found naturally in the environment.
Why is thimerosal used in some vaccines? Because it prevents the growth of dangerous microbes, thimerosal
is used as a preservative in multi-dose vials of flu vaccines, and in two other childhood vaccines, it is used in the manufacturing
process. When each new needle is inserted into the multi-dose vial, it is possible for microbes to get into the vial. The preservative,
thimerosal, prevents contamination in the multi-dose vial when individual doses are drawn from it. Receiving a vaccine contaminated with bacteria can be deadly. For two childhood vaccines, thimerosal is used to prevent the growth of microbes during the manufacturing process. When thimerosal is used this way, it is removed later in the process. Only trace (very tiny) amounts remain. The only childhood vaccines today that have trace amounts of thimerosal are one DTaP and one DTaP-Hib combination vaccine.
for you maybe, because you are obviously a Soros troll. For me it's spelled check, as in did angryspin get his check from soros yet? or Soros just told angryspin his check is in the mail and to keep up the good work.
"I'm not sure if I should pump dozens of unproven substances that may or may not actually contain what big pharma claims into my children" "STOP BEING LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS!! NOW LET ME INJECT YOUR KID OR GO TO JAIL!!"
Which is true, but these infections didn't come back in a vacuum. Anti-vaxxers are not a threat because everyone around them is vaccinated. But it changes if you import people that do have the virus.
Shhh it's totally Becky! White women who stay at home with their kids, swim laps at the Y and have the audacity to buy lattes are a huge threat to national stability. It's definitely not the people pushing their 3 year old over a wall to sneak into the USA. They're noble heroes who should be celebrated! But Whitey? Whitey gots to go!
Of course there's going to be a tiny percentage of people that have problems. Do you really expect something to be 100% safe for everybody? For 99 percent of people vaccinations are safe and the fact that people are vaccinated saves millions of lives. If people were to go unvaccinated the death toll from disease spreading would be astronomical in comparison to the few people who have problems with their vaccinations. try to think things through fully in the future
Um, no. The reality is that only a tiny percentage of cases who have problems ever see the light of day in world media because of a concerted effort to hide the facts. You can continue to deny this all you want, but it doesn't make it less true.
When you say that 99% of people are safe, do you mean 99% of people who are vaccinated live through the vaccination process? Have you considered purity of vaccines because that seems to be the problem with them right now. In fact, a scientist recently did a study himself on many vaccines and what he found was that vaccine suspensions are contaminated. He did many studies on many vaccines from many pharmaceutical companies just last year. How many studies did you do?
I don't think you understand the positive impact these vaccines has had on Humanity. They have and do save millions of lives. Are you saying that these vaccines causes more death than the diseases would?
why not both? personally i think anti vaxxers are worse because they had the chance to NOT have measles and said "yeah thats fine for me, but not my kids" the third worlders never had that chance
Anything that can possibly be blamed on white people is blamed on white people.. Anything that can't be blamed on white people, is spun to be blamed on white people. When a darkie does something, it was so they'd know that behavior was "wrong" and whitey made them do it.
Beyond what multiple others have mentioned: There are people who cannot get vaccinated due to actual medical issues, (and not retarded soccer moms who think autism is caused months or years after birth) who rely on herd immunity to get by.
That's not how it works. Immunity isn't absolute. Your exposure to pathogens can overwhelm your immune system even if you have immunity. You can only have so many WBCs in your blood.
Vaccines have a ~95% effectiveness due to how our immune systems function. The white blood cells don't know how to stop a threat until they are aware of it. They go into mutate mode to see what fights the disease and when something works, BAM it's deployed and the invasion is stopped.
Some times, the immune system doesn't quite mutate enough in time to kill the weakened/dead disease in the vaccine. That means that even if you were vaccinated, you could still be vulnerable.
That's why group immunity is so important, and why vaccines have to be deployed in mass numbers to be effective.
Ok, when I say Vaccine, I'm generally referring to long-lasting, one and done shots for measles or TB. I didn't grow up in a time where flu shots were such a common thing. I would never get a flu shot.
"Get a shot every year and don't ask questions" is obviously fucked. Also, with flu vaccines, one of the reasons they are so infective is because different strains of flu are spread in different years, and the vaccine labs have to guess which strain will be around 5 months in advance. Also, flu vaccines are generally shit anyway, with a lot of flus being pretty resistant. 2 years ago, I got H3N2, which is a very resistant strain of flu. The sickest I've ever been in my life. Went to the doctor, had to use an inhaler for a week, and I can't cough the same way anymore. Nothing would have changed if I had gotten the flu shot, as everyone who got the flu shot around me got sick anyway!
In short: stopping measles, mumps, and TB: Good - Getting yearly injections of a VIRUS (Can't be killed, they aren't alive) to make you less sick maybe: Bad.
No he's just going into the debate that makes biologists throw chairs at each other.
Basically there are several requirements for a thing to be considered alive, Viruses fail some but not all of them, most notably that they do not reproduce on their own but reprogram other organism's cells to create more viruses. Therefore viruses are not alive, and therefore cannot be killed as he said, just like you cannot kill a stone or a corpse.
Now there are other definitions of life where Viruses CAN be considered alive. It's really just arguing over specifics of definitions.
When I would get the flu shot, I'd get sick. I haven't gotten a shot of any kind in the last 6 years. Got sick last week for the first time in a few years and I'm already over the worse of that cold. Haven't been to a doctor in 10 years or so.
I don't have time to go, and when I have time, I don't have money. If they were more like McDonald's, I'd probably go on a schedule. And by more like McDonald's, I mean there should be a menu that I pick and chose why I'm there with clear prices and I have the option of using my healthcare or not.
The science is one thing, sure we get it. What you and others like you refuse to get is that we don't trust the industry any more. You always refuse to address that point. The industry is criminal, and has been made immune to the rule of law. They have caused the deaths and injury of millions and are not held accountable. You would have to be some kind of idiot to trust any company like that. They admit their product kills people. We should never HAVE to trust them.
The debate, then, needs to move away from effectiveness of the concept of immunisation and into a debate of execution. Limitations of ingredients and function. Removal of liability protection for manufacturers. And never legal mandates for medical procedures.
Every article, TV spot always frames this as some unqualified parents don't trust vaccine science, as if our pharma industry was a paragon of virtue and beyond reproach. The pharma industry is profit driven and equally if not more corrupt than any other profit driven industry. Numerous cover-ups have been exposed and have never been prosecuted. They experiment with the public and have Vaccine Courts that cover their crimes. No we are not talking about the science, we are talking about complete bastardization of the science for profit. Trust my ass.
for the most part vaccines do work, but only as long as the whole herd is innoculated. I'm of the let me decide what to do crowd and not the do as you are told crowd.
lol so in other words you agree vaccines dont work. If you are vaccinated then there is no worry about someone who is not because there fore you should not be getting the disease. So no thanks none of the poison for me they can go ahead and kill the sheep.
lol so in other words you agree vaccines dont work. If you are vaccinated then there is no worry about someone who is not
Jesus fucking Christ stop with this retarded "gotcha" to a claim that nobody makes.
This is only a valid "gotcha" if vaccines are claimed to be 100% effective for 100% of the population which nobody seriously claims. if a vaccine is say 95% effective then those 5% remaining people are only protected by herd Immunity, effectively a vaccine reducing the total amount of people infected then reduces the amount of person to person infection which protects the people who the vaccine didn't work on.
Question, if Vaccines didn't work, why are these out breaks a more recent phenomenon? You're asking people to try and find studies of every single vaccine when people are refusing to address this basic premise.
Vaccination has been known to be effective for a couple hundred years, and it was forefathered by inoculation, which has been known to be effective for several centuries longer. So long, in fact, that you probably know what "Pox parties" are, but you don't know where they came from. "Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems..."
I'm asking for one single scientific study proving the efficacy of vaccination.
I'm asking for one single scientific study proving the efficacy of vaccination.
And I will be more clear. Choose a vaccine. Your position seems to be that none work. How do you which do and do not work? I don't know which ones you've looked at, or even if you know the names of any vaccines. Tell me, which ones don't work.
Don't put words in my mouth.
I didn't, but it's clear you're retarded given your next statement.
Your question doesn't make any fucking sense, either.
That's because you're fucking stupid, apparently.
Now, to placate you, finding a study was easy. Here's one detailing the efficacy of herd of immunity, which directly correlates to the efficacy of vaccinations working. It also discusses which vaccines didn't work. This is why it's important you define your criteria instead of leaving it so open ended. If you feel none of the vaccines worked, it should have been trivial for you to name one. Just one. You failed, like a dumb nigger.
You have absolutely refused to name one, just one vaccine that doesn't work. You have clearly shown to not understand basic questions in relation to the topic when asked. You also just equated animal biology to human biology as if a direct correlation matters, without proving it does. Had I actually put words in your mouth that you didn't imply or say, you would have pointed it out.
The paper I linked, had you bothered to read it at all, bypasses your need for a direct link to any scientific study (beyond the fact that you absolutely refuse to give one example, and you easily could, of a vaccine that doesn't work for actual discussion).
Let me make it real simple for you. If the vaccines didn't work, due to population growth, we'd see more cases per year of these diseases since the inception of these vaccine programs. We're only seeing that very recently, and for whatever reason you're not even asking why, but would rather throw the baby out with the bat water.
If vaccines didn't work and herd immunity was bullshit, the paper I linked wouldn't have been able to make a correlation between infection ratess of those vaccinated, and those around them who haven't been vaccinated.
Lastly, if you're going to lob the shill accusation at someone, at least have a fucking clue and don't engage in the very tactics you're decrying (note, I'm not calling you a shill here, I just find the hypocrisy amusing). I'm not even saying all vaccines work, or that they're all good. Perhaps this is due to your inability to read and comprehend. I've read NPC's sometimes have that problem. Are you one?
Yeah, heaven forbid if someone asks you for specifics. And while you're at it, keep engaging in shill tactics while crying at others for doing so, hypocrite.
naw not going to get into that, its my belief and i think anti vaxxers are some of the most selfish, stupid fuckers around - you want to get polio? well that's how you get polio.
i dont need to - i think anti vaxxers are retards - don't have to prove it to you - just like im not asking you to prove to me that not vaccinating is not dangerous
"Polio" as people think about it (paralysis, iron lungs, etc) was most likely extreme DDT poisoning, and was only a fraction of a percent of all "polio" cases. During the time frame of the "polio" epidemic, people would literally feed their children DDT. They would spay the children from head to toe in, and directly apply DDT to foodstuffs.
Polio was known as "the Summer disease", coincidentally. Summer, when you're eating fresh fruit and playing outside, covered in DDT.
No, most of them are white, have white kids and husbands, and graduated from college, although probably not an elite one. That's the irony, they try to paint this as a right wing thing and it isnt.
Yeah, that's what the "tend to" implies. Also, generalizations are usually how one describes a group given that its rarely possible to describe specifics of a disparate group of individuals.
No. Anti-vaxxers are just slandered as such. No one except a handful of retards believes that hippy crap. Most anti-vaxxers are parents who don't want to pump their infant children full of mystery chemicals, the contents and effects of which are largely unknown. When big pharma is called out on this they slander these people as crazy. If some kike hands you a syringe and refuses to tell you what it is, but says it will make your baby not get sick, you'd be suspicious too
Nope there isn't but these people will belive anything as long as it agrees with their world view, echo chamber and naivity, that's probably how you get to that point.
Ask a pharmaceutical company what they put in vaccines. They won't give you a straight answer but still expect you to put it in your child. It isn't a conspiracy, it's a matter of big pharma Jews refusing to disclose what they want you to put in your child's body.
Damn boy antisemitism much? It's hilarious how you can be so wrong and just so idiotic in so few sentences, just wow!
It is so easy to find out what is in vaccines, it's just your laziness or ignorance preventing you from being informed.
So this is why you are here. You are a kike shill! I really need to know...Why does the rabbi have to suck your dick after he cuts the tip off? Is it like, "Sorry little guy...here, Uncle Schlomo will make it better...mmmm...nomnomnom". Is that why you h8 yt?
Me, too, but are you kidding yourself in believing most anti-vaxxers are conservative, or do you acknowledge we are the minority? Same goes for eating organic, and trusting allopathic medicine.
"If your child is born in Israel, you will receive a Pinkas Chisunim (vaccination booklet) when the baby is born, before you leave the hospital. If your child is born abroad, a Pinkas Chisunim will be issued at your first Tipat Chalav visit."
lol. so i you are born abroad you get the shots, born in israel, you get a little pamphlet....
and...drumroll...
"Vaccinating your child is not required by law in Israel."
and there you have it. on your very own link. Btw, that pic of a jewish woman with a sneer giving a shot to a blonde child really sinks the message in.
I think people associate the anti-vaxxers with leftists because of the skepticism towards government on both ends. Just, one of us retarded and the other is skeptical.
Anti vaxxer is a poor choice of a word. Anti poison is a better choice.
The MSM has done a great job painting a picture of irrational people being completely anti vaccines in order to keep the majority of the population from starting to question to.
I'm sure there are some who are liberal leaning who are anti vaccines, but just think about that. A person who begins to question the fabric of the reality they've been painted tends to wake up and see other things they didn't know were there before.
It's generally conservatives who are anti vaccines/poison. It's not the vaccines we have problems with, it's what they chose to make them out of and refusal to find better alternatives when they know what is in them is harmful, but it's cost effective.
The IDF has nothing on big pharma when it comes to damage control, goys.
there are lots of words like that in English with hidden meanings. You really have to look at them closely. then you have amagram words, with reaaranged letters, or maybe they sound like another word with a negative connotation. All kinds of tricks for hiding real meanings.
i was pretty surprised when i looked this up. i thought they were anti vaccines too of course. its not the case. theyre against getting 100+ weird stuff inject ed for no reason other than making money in thr fear of being infected which can also in fact make you sick. then you need more pills. the perfect plan.
Anti vaxxer is a poor choice of a word. Anti poison is a better choice.
Depends on who you ask.
The MSM has done a great job painting a picture of irrational people being completely anti vaccines in order to keep the majority of the population from starting to question to.
The facts are the facts. Even if vaccines are a poison, the fact remains that they save far more lives than they cost. Botulism is a poison too, and you can build immunity by microdosing it. That's how vaccines work.
It's pretty well tested in some sense. But it is a mild poison. That's basically what an "adjuvant" is. Poisons you a little bit so your immune system kicks into gear.
I was under the impression that aluminum was being used as a preservative and not as one of the immune system irritants that they use to increase profits.
a mercury-based compound is used as a preservative in multi-dose vaccines (they don't use it in single-shot since those can be just made in single sterile doses)
I don't know if you have children. But many children are very susceptible to vaccine ingredients. Many of them are damaged because of it. There is even a test that wouldn't harm anyone to find out of a vaccine is likely to cause the damage, but they don't use it.
Doctor's are supposed to minimize the harm. A simple test... But they don't do it.
The only reason I am where I am today on the pizzagate, JQ, understanding both parties are two sides of the same coin, is because of this very topic.
You have a child who is vaccine injured, and you find out how many others are, and then you see they still do nothing... Take a look at agenda 21... See what the people in control say in their conferences that no one pays attention to...
Well, no, you just have paranoid thinking. Not really a bad thing (helps with critical thinking).
Some people are sensitive to vaccination, sure. The absolute number probably is in the "many", but as a fraction of the population, the number is not that great.
I am not aware of a test, unless they have figured out a way to check for genetic problems with aluminum elimination (there was a paper on that a few months back, but it's very recent).
The big problem with this is that if you have white kids, borders are not closing and these old diseases are coming back. And kids don't do well with dangerous diseases. Research what vaccines you get for your kids, and space them out as needed just in case. If you have $ you can make the doctor do any additional tests you want - as long as those are available.
Well until you can somehow (???) wrestle control of the media from Shlomo and close the borders, I will be vaccinating mine and acting as if expecting living standards to be rapidly deteriorating, especially in the cities.
I remembered a story a few years back about some island in Oregon that was vax-free and kids were like dying or getting critically injured by pertussis. Made me chuckle.
Sand Island, Russian Island, Tenasilhee Island... it was some little hippy commune type place. But you may be right; it could have been Washington. It was a few years ago and I just remember Pacific NW... looking at it now I think it might have been Seattle I was thinking of - either way a bunch of NW hyper liberal faggots weren't getting basic immunizations for their kids and so their kids were dying or getting critically injured as a result. We've known about immunization technology for literally centuries yet people still refuse to believe.
And fuck off with the ad hominem - save that shit for fagbook. "Der her MotherJones dumb!" The source of the data is the CDC and if you weren't a dumb fuck drooling mouth breathing cunt who was capable of mounting more meaningful statement than "I don't like your source therefore your point is invalid" then you'd notice important details like that. Fuck.
tom47 ago
Such a truth would #BURST their little lie they are trying to sell us!
BloatedVoatGoat ago
Dont forget the TB they are bringing.
alakai ago
If you've noticed there's an artificial movement on the online surface to promote hatred of people who even question the authenticity of vaccines or their safety when you realize that this is all because of the fact that it is Big Money that they came out from insurance companies and consumers and most diseases aren't even covered by vaccines because they mutate fast then you'll realize why vaccines aren't really important exposure is
captainstrange ago
"but what about people who don't have immune systems!? You don't have a right to endanger children!"
gazillions ago
When polio comes back and your kid dies from it enjoy your righteousness.
captainstrange ago
you're assuming the answer gazillions.
And here I thought better of you.
16460368? ago
Re-read what I wrote, I'm on your side.
Another exposure means being exposed to someone who is contagious, like you get it when you're a child, you've got immunity until late adulthood, but if your kid gets it when you're in young-mid adulthood, and you are with your sick kid, you get a boost to your immunity lasting the rest of your life.
Walk1 ago
Its all due to the fact that saying such a thing about third-worlders would be considered racist and its better to go after those people who do not accord with the system and the government's desires. In the end it kind of proves why the system and government needs an overhaul and third-worlders need to get kicked out of the country.
16458506? ago
That's true I suppose. Just my reading emphasises those two as going from very mild to very dangerous.
My point was mainly don't be complacent if you got one as a kid, you need another exposure in adulthood for full immunity into old age.
made-you-look ago
Human suffering has become a commodity.
pass it on.
phenomenaldouche ago
I'm all for personal liberty but the logic behind the herd immunity concept of immunization is not only obvious but the outcome has proven highly effective in stomping out diseases in herds that have been immunized.
I can get on board with most of the wingnut conspiracy theory, but the anti-vax thing is simply, obviously, painfully clearly stupid and wrong.
Since I support personal liberties, though, I suggest we don't force people to take any vaccine even if it's important for the herd--instead just throw them out of the country. Also, since we can't be sure the illegals have been immunized they'll need to go as well.
skidder ago
I'm 61. When I was 6 years old EVERY kid got the measles, mumps and chicken pox, everyone of them. In fact, if you didn't get the measles your parents would worry that you'd get it when you were older as it can leave you sterile if contracted at an older age. The world didn't end, schools didn't even note the outbreaks, they were no big deal. This is all about Vaccines and big pharma.
the_one_you_see_last ago
But that required actual humanoid beings capable of nurturing offspring that is not living on a smartphone screen.
3dk ago
Because being anti-vac means challenging the status quo, it shows that you have the ability to think critically and dont just drink the koolaid when you are told to. Governments and normie NPCs hate this, hence the "stoopid anti-vac" meme...
Whether they are correct in their views or not is beside the point.
Rangan451 ago
No it's not, being able to think critically also includes arriving at the correct conclusion, just challenging the norm for the sake of the challenge is being contrarian, which is really fucking stupid when it comes to public health.
mqrmqr ago
The anti vax scare was astroturfed for this.
Ps4Freedom ago
Interesting isn't it. When the ones getting it are illegals and the previously vaccinated.
Inaminit ago
Measles. Mumps. Chicken Pox... Personally, I believe a person is better off developing their own antibodies.
CapitalPurifier ago
problem reaction solution
or rather, whatever happens, whatever reaction happens, turn it to your advantage.
lel
but sometimes, make what you need to happen to get something else mwaahahahahaha
AbyormenitePiranha ago
Here's a good rule-of-thumb: whatever the NPC's on TV say is wrong, take the opposite position.
LibertarianForChrist ago
Strangely, alot of meme pages all are doing the anti-vax thing. Its a shame, theres a ton of promise in the the meme page users. They all at least try to reject the programming.
On a side note, The use of welfare and the government can be compared to medicine and drug companies.
FatFreddiesCat ago
I'm glad someone brought this up. I remember the measles well! I am 60 years old and when I was young I had the measles three times! What I remember from my mother is there is "3-day measles" which you can get more than once before your immune and then German measles which you can only get once but is more dangerous. Most everybody in my midwestern school got them as well as mumps, chicken pox and every little cold. Anyway, my mother never seemed to concerned about 3-day but she was for the German. Don't remember ever going to the doctor for it, just stayed home and good old mom took care of me. So I told my wife "Nobody dies from measles!", then googled it to find 2.6 million people died of it in 1990 although it is down to about 100,000 they say right now because of vaccines. BUT, further research reveals that they don't die from the measles at all but rather pneumonia (not that the manner of death is any consolation) I'm just pointing out that it's children in 3rd world countries (or here of course) that are malnourished and low immune system. Children (and adults) like us in the 60's and and now who are healthy,strong and have good immune system not only will be just fine but in my opinion will be better off in the long run because you let your body do the job it was designed to do and built your immunity naturally.
TheWheelofTime ago
Well numerous immigrants come in and spread the diseases then they'll find one American kid that wasn't vaccinated and blame it on that while ignoring the herd immunity that was supposed to prevent this kind of thing. Hell, now they don't even bother with doing their research half the time on who was vaccinated or who wasn't. They certainly don't bother verifying the outbreak of these diseases was brought on by an illegal immigrant. All they do is just assume and blame it on the anti-vaccination groups. No real research is done because even at a basic level, they'd find that the vaccinated, in many cases, aren't protected. They'd find out illegal immigrants brought it into the country.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
By letting in the vaccinated sand&taconiggers you fucking compromise the herd immunity.
Rangan451 ago
Did you ever think about the amount of people that'd be needed to offset herd immunity? Let's say in the caravans there are 50k people all unvaccinated, which is btw. highly unlikely since mexico has higher vaccination rates than the U.S., but let's be the devils advocate here ;) , this is such a small drop that a caravan on itself can't make a significant dent in herd immunity. Also what I did not metion yet is the migration that preceeded this debacle never infact caused a similar outbreak, yet after 5 years of constant stupidity and anti-vax movements we actually do get an outbreak. To blame are the stupid cunts who don't vaccinate, be it the American or the Mexican.
Bfwilley ago
https://redd.it/al3spy
Hat Tip.
bagano1 ago
You do realize these people will have to be vaccinated when they enter, right? Also, believe it or not, they do get vaccinated by their own doctors and aid groups overseas, moron.
Patriotic-Canadian ago
Why all the fucking fuss?
When I was a kid, I got measels: everybody got measels.
Nobody died.
dwhipwhipplez ago
I think its because both issues are nearly equal in representation. I've heard something like 30 mil illegal immigrants are here. Looking at the stats for people getting waivers from their gov so they dont get vaccines are higher than you realize. I don't want to link any specific news source for this, but they all seem to be in agreement. You have anywhere from at a minimum 3% to 6% of each states population getting these exemptions. These are the people that in the system and have gotten the exemption. How many are illegals and likely not counted in the system of exemptions. Also not to mention the HB-1 visa guys, but im ignorant of any rules surrounding those visas.
coucou ago
Spread diseases via 3rd world forced migrations, part of Agenda 21. Talking about holocausts! The cabal will be on the world book of records! And I agree with Warnos, it is mostly conservatives who are anti vax. And yes, anti poison is better said. In Italy, Salvini fired the whole vax board and nominated new people, who found straight away there are no antigenes in vax, only rubbish destroying human health.
MrShekelstein ago
its an obvious misdirection.
flapjack_charlie ago
They aren't. The media is because its pushing the agenda that you have no right to your own body. The people jumping on this are just idiots who think what they're told.
captainstrange ago
idiots and bots.
Which ironically is what they accuse us of being.
NotHereForPizza ago
They're deflecting and using it to fork the blame to people they're trying to control.
bfriend13 ago
Because that would make sense.
Bananazz ago
Medical industry requires sick people to stay in business.
L3D ago
Even if there wouldn't be any illegals, anti-vaccers could still get infected when they travel somewhere and then can cause an epidemic back home. Last two epidemics in Finland were like that, anti-vaccers traveled somewhere and caught something and spread that around in their cooky religious events first and then in hospitals.
Maybe would be the best to deny anti-vaccers from traveling anywhere where they could catch something. And vaccinate migrants with everything as soon as they come ...forcing migrants to take vaccines might even cause those migrants not trusting western medicine not coming at all. Anti-vaccination is a big hit on Somali communities apparently.
figgernaggot1488 ago
You can tell it's actually third-world savages infecting everybody because there's not one fucking mention of WHO fucking has it. They dance around the issue, carefully piecing together every word to avoid even the faintest hint that might make "white supremacists" appear correct. They say things like "in an area where vaccination rates are low" instead of "in an area with a lot of anti-vaccination activity." Not one fucking victim is identified by photo or name anywhere I can see. I wonder why.
2fast4u92 ago
As much as I agree with keeping spics out, isn't a little ironic to say "it's not the recent anti vaxxers its the damn lifetime anti vaxxers" Now, I don't get flu shots, they are a roll of the dice anyways. But mumps, measles, hepatitis, polio, etc. We don't need that shit floating around.
Suzyboots ago
I couldn't agree more!
Ken_bingo2 ago
Because it is not "everone", it is just narrative enforcers and their useful idiots.
basedmangod2015 ago
and thats where we are, there are now measles apologists
Bacon219 ago
Good hypothesis. Although I looked up some of the known locations and they seem like nicer neighborhoods.
enginedriver13 ago
"Nicer neighborhoods" here in Shitlib USA are full of illegals that get employed by rich people as gardeners and nannies and housecleaners--HUGE vector of infection to have some illegal from bumfuck, mexico in your house and around your children.
satisfyinghump ago
I've thought of the same thing.
So this is what I dont get about the people claiming parents who domt vaccinate their kids, are to blame.
If you have 10, 100 or even 1000 kids that are not vaccinated, all in school, they're not going to spontaneously get measles, right!?
But if you have people coming to our country from countries which dont have a measles vaccination program (God bless BillyGates, boy does he and his non-profit try their hardest... they put chemicals in their vaccinations that they administer in Africa, which prevent the person from either having viable sperm or able to get pregnant!), you will have measles being reported!!!
I'd love to know, they can strip any personal info, the analytics on these people. Do they work in some capacity, near or in the same facilities/areas/buildings as these measles infected illegal criminals???
This may be a new method that I.C.E. uses to hunt down large populations of illegals!!! Hah, well only 1/2 joking... but they could ask hospitals and clinics to report to them when they receive above a certain threshold, patients that have measles... although these types of facilities often times have liberal execs so theyd probably hide their numbers from them... theyd need to request the info through an intermediary, like a non-profit or some innocent non-immigretion/deportation focused government agency...
con77 ago
exactly
16450090? ago
Well, technically no. You need a booster as adult - so parents taking care of their children with measles or chicken pox got a booster (without getting sick) and then there was life-long immunity. Both viruses are so much worse as one ages that they are considered a different disease (shingles?).
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Warnos44 ago
Not only that but isn't it likely to be deadly if you get it when you're older?
john-from-wisconsin ago
You already know the answers to the question.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
Whaaat, are you some kind of conspiracy nut?
Oy gevalt, next thing you'll be telling me you doubt they had floors made of spinning knives in Auschwitz.
I was there!
GutterTrash ago
Scapegoating.
They always do this.
I just noticed that if you go to that other site you will see a noticeably higher uptake of memes that shit all over anti vaxxers, deservedly so obviously.
Mockingbird social media is once again demonstrating its efficacy in shifting the blame and all the sheep are lapping it up.
Malagant ago
Feels > facts
wt1984yb ago
Because they're a bunch of NPC retards that can't think for themselves and believe anything the government or media tells them to believe.
dudelol ago
Vaxxines are causing this.
The_Prophets_Profit ago
Pay attention goats. This is a good example of a liberal talking point, where in either case, vaccinations are the answer.
DeadFox ago
Because they're a different colour then you
Doing any less then grovelling at their feet is racism
phuk_hugh_hall ago
Is it weird that I noticed there were a couple of anti-vaxxer posts on the front page of reddit, and then when I came back to voat there was an anti-vaxxer post on the front page?
probably just a coincidence, right? Nothing to see here, goyim...
Warnos44 ago
No, many goats go to both sites.
phuk_hugh_hall ago
and we all "organically" happen to upvote the same/similar content? Your right, probably just a coincidence...Nothing to see here, goyim.
Warnos44 ago
How does it equate to the same when here it's defending it, and there it's against it.
phuk_hugh_hall ago
If you agree that the target audience of both websites are extremely different, and you ignore the fact that "votes" can be artificially generated to give the appearance of popularity, how would two different audiences "organically" promote the same discussion? The question is, who benefits from getting the Internet (which is not computers but really people) to argue about vaccinations and not something else. It's not the topic of the fight that I care about, but the fact that it seems to be coordinated across platforms.
Warnos44 ago
I see.
Truly nothing that anyone is fighting about right now matters anyway. Trump is a Zionists puppet and Q is their brilliant psyop to keep those who would do something from doing anything.
All the people everyone wants arrested/dead will just be replaced by more of the same if we fail to purge the Rothschild/Zionist/Chabad influences.
I say this and I get labeled jidf.
Anyway I actually think it does good for people to be aware of the history and events of vaccines. Hell of a lot more productive than gnawing on fingers hoping this time they'll be locked up.
phuk_hugh_hall ago
Probably. It's hard to argue he isn't when he aligns himself so hard with Isreal. Q got boring so I quit watching that show. I'm more of a South Park fan...
Dogbuttimmunity ago
Top 10 facts about the vaccine industry that the dishonest, child-murdering media refuses to report
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-01-28-top-10-facts-about-the-vaccine-industry.html
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Really? We're linking NaturalNews now?
This is like linking CNN to prove that Orange man is being impeached any day now!
captainstrange ago
You're not wrong Laurentius.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Yeah but people see a headline they agree with and never read beyond it.
Someone ITT was trying to pass off a article that self-identified as an opinion piece as if it was a scientific study.
captainstrange ago
Thats always been true though. I'm frequently guilty of the same thing.
Call it as you see it. Don't let it fly.
slevin_kelevra ago
both have blame.
Fred8850 ago
Bill Gates and the World’s Elite DO NOT VACCINATE their own children… and for good reason
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-01-22-bill-gates-and-the-worlds-elite-do-not-vaccinate-their-own-children.html
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Literally one of the few sites with less credibility than CNN
Fred8850 ago
What you basis for that summation. Was the link I posted to a natural news article inaccurate? Are you also anti health ranger. Do you still believe there is a two party system in the USA?
Rangan451 ago
Jup totally inaccurate, with no actual sources. Also did you know the Zucc did vaccinate his child?
BumFightChamp ago
Don't worry, he is a moron
BumFightChamp ago
Bill Gates’ Former Doctor Says Billionaire ‘Refused to Vaccinate His Children’
big_fat_dangus ago
L2immunology, brainlet. Retards like you are why the right has a reputation for being dumb hicks.
riffwraff ago
Immunology is legit. Mystery chemicals in vaccines are not, and big pharma refuses to change this.
Rangan451 ago
You really are a shit for brains, huh? That article, and many others on "naturalnews", is made up bs. How does it feel to fall for such an obvious hoax article?
draaaak ago
^^Obvious shill.
Rangan451 ago
Nah, med student and just curious about the people here, some don't seem to be braindead, but it's pretty bad.
phuk_hugh_hall ago
You made an account just so you be salty at a random stranger? weird...probably just a coincidence...
Rangan451 ago
Jup, I always want to know how people come to support clearly false and/or idiotic stances with no supporting evidence from actual, reputable scientists.
Rangan451 ago
Nah just curious about the people here, some don't seem to be braindead, but it's pretty bad.
englishwebster ago
one makes money for big pharma, the other wakes people up to their own destruction.
Fred8850 ago
Herd Immunity: A False Rationale for Vaccine Mandates
http://www.renegadetribune.com/herd-immunity-a-false-rationale-for-vaccine-mandates/
CowWithBeef ago
The media is just flexing their outrage engineering assets. They need to prove they're still in control. It's important to use this engineered hysteria against them. Ask sheep(how they see us) to compare deaths and chronic conditions from measles vs. deaths and chronic conditions from MMR vaccination in the past ten years. Don't even look it up. Just have them do it. They'll learn that vaccine courts exist. No one can justify vaccine courts if they think vaccines are safe. If they can think independently at all, the seed will be planted.
tendiesonfloor ago
I bet you breath through your mouth.
Le_Squish ago
Add another one: vaccine now has greatly diminished efficacy. Had outbreak in my community last year. Half of those that contracted it were previously vaccinated. Health department shut the fuck up about it real fast.
kneo24 ago
How big is your community? What are the demographics of them? When were people previously vaccinated?
Le_Squish ago
Island has 200k permanent residents with transients in the millions with mandatory vaccination required for all immigrants. Outbreak burnt out on it's own. No clustering in schools so original infection was probably in the retail/ tourism sector.
kneo24 ago
That's actually pretty interesting information. Diseases can mutate over time, changing the effectiveness of a vaccine, assuming the vaccine worked in the first place. The tourism industry is going to expose people to all sorts of weird things.
Le_Squish ago
We have outbreaks related to tourism all the time but it's heavily suppressed (like all the tourist drowning deaths). 2 years ago there was an unpublicized norovirus outbreak. Entire neighborhoods crippled. We also have an oral syphillis problem here because tourist think buying BJ's in safer than penetrative sex and have an extra flu season because of southern hemisphere folks.
LlamaMan ago
Hawaii?
Le_Squish ago
Yes. You like beef?
LlamaMan ago
More of a venison man.
Was just there, reading up on drowning deaths was pretty surprising tbh. I can see it being pretty common with older folks thinking they can suddenly swim a mile to see some fish.
Le_Squish ago
People underestimate the power in the waves.
There are also the full face snorkel mask that is suspected to be killing people as well.
NoTrueScotsman ago
This has been true for every whooping cough/pertussis outbreak I've heard about, as well. The outbreaks happen among school age kids (just like you'd expect) who have had all their booster shots for it, but they've all worn off.
Le_Squish ago
Pertussis last 10-12 years. It's the only vaccine besides tetanus that I know to be safe and not suspiciously adulterated.
NoTrueScotsman ago
I got 2 years from discussions on pregnancy forums about current recommendations for people who will be in contact with newborns, so the standards are probably higher than in the general population. People in that group are recommended to get the vaccine every 2 years, though, because immunity wanes after that point. Here's a CDC link.
Le_Squish ago
It's probably best to have blood test when immunity is in doubt.
myvoicefromhell ago
Remember when you were taken over to your friend's house as a kid when he had the measles so that you could get it, too? That was the only measles vaccine any kid ever needed.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
That's basically the same thing as inoculation which is the forefather to vaccines.
GreyAlien ago
ahhh the ol chicken pox parties that thought was memory holed well
TruthWithPrevail ago
Even the Rugrats cartoon in the 90s had the kids get the pox on purpose. I'm not sure what today's cartoons would say though, it would probably be some kinda vax propaganda.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
What if it's both?
TPTBNewsReviewer ago
Isn't that why dupes get vaccinated? To protect themselves? Yet, they fear vaccinations are useless against others who choose not to vaccinate?
Redenz ago
agenda driven media?
captainstrange ago
"Dupes", I like it.
Toroidal ago
Because the ones getting sick are the children of anti-vaxxers.
Waffle_ninja ago
Because the truth is “insensitive”
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Vaccines have mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde
figgernaggot1488 ago
And salt has chlorine and sodium. Oh noes!!! Someone think of the children. Water has hydroxide ions. That's caustic, man!
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Spotted the Kike!
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
What did he say that was a lie?
I'm waiting.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Fucking idiots
Salt water is full of sodium chloride molecules. are not poisonous and reactive like sodium metal and chlorine gas because they are electrically charged atoms called "ions." ... The chlorine has one extra electron and its outer electron shell is complete, so like sodium it too cannot bond with other atoms.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
So you're agreeing with him?
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
no kike, Vaccines cause Autism
Vaccines have harmful mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde
Unlike fucking idiot shills who say water and table salt are harmful, schlomo
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
So I guess the whole explanation when't over your head then, if you even bothered to read it.
Also nice work mr. 4 month old account calling people shills.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Fuck off kike, not going to read SHILL pseudoscience posts about why heavy metals are not harmful to the body
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Jew confirmed.
VicariousJambi ago
figgernaggot1488 ago
I create a new account every day.
captainstrange ago
and thats why no one trusts you faggot.
draaaak ago
^^3.5hr old account, shilling for vaccines... weird...
kneo24 ago
Dihydrogen monoxide is some scary shit. It breaks down everything!
Mikel777 ago
so you are equating mercury and aluminum with water now? dumbass. obviously you must have had tons of shots.
kneo24 ago
Perhaps you need to read more books on science, and just in general, so you can properly follow this conversation.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
No he's comparing equating thimerosal with Mercury is like equating salt and chlorine or water and hydroxide.
A molecule does not necessarily have the same properties as it's component elements or else water (Hydrogen and oxygen) would be explosive like it's component atoms.
hamman365 ago
Thimerosal is a compound that contains mercury. Mercury is a metal found naturally in the environment.
Why is thimerosal used in some vaccines? Because it prevents the growth of dangerous microbes, thimerosal is used as a preservative in multi-dose vials of flu vaccines, and in two other childhood vaccines, it is used in the manufacturing process. When each new needle is inserted into the multi-dose vial, it is possible for microbes to get into the vial. The preservative, thimerosal, prevents contamination in the multi-dose vial when individual doses are drawn from it. Receiving a vaccine contaminated with bacteria can be deadly. For two childhood vaccines, thimerosal is used to prevent the growth of microbes during the manufacturing process. When thimerosal is used this way, it is removed later in the process. Only trace (very tiny) amounts remain. The only childhood vaccines today that have trace amounts of thimerosal are one DTaP and one DTaP-Hib combination vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
The kikes are coming out of the woodwork to defend Big Pharma!
hamman365 ago
fuck off Schlomo - not jewish at all just anti dipshit.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Hey schlomo
Yes Schlomo Kikes did 9/11
hamman365 ago
nope, but you keep spreading your diseased bullshit.
angryspin ago
Because everyone here trusts Government Organisations you fucking brainlet.
hamman365 ago
dont trust them much at all, but i sure as shit don't trust you - Soro's send your check yet?
angryspin ago
It's spelled cheque you fucking brainlet
hamman365 ago
for you maybe, because you are obviously a Soros troll. For me it's spelled check, as in did angryspin get his check from soros yet? or Soros just told angryspin his check is in the mail and to keep up the good work.
Warnos44 ago
Plus cells from animals that cause cancerous cells to begin growing when injected in humans.
Mr_Wolf ago
anti vaxxers are loud and obnoxious, but outbreaks have been quietly going on for years anywhere theres a high concentration of illegals.
being loud and obnoxious gets you noticed and blamed. they may have also been created so the media can avoid blaming illegals
dv1155 ago
"I'm not sure if I should pump dozens of unproven substances that may or may not actually contain what big pharma claims into my children" "STOP BEING LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS!! NOW LET ME INJECT YOUR KID OR GO TO JAIL!!"
geekpuk2 ago
Because anti vaxxers are dumb as shit
Living in a developed country with access to quality healthcare and rejecting vaccines out of ignorance
LampshadeMaker ago
Go fight futile, pointless wars with nature using your own spawn as cannon fodder, fuckface.
Itty-bitty_Tity-trap ago
Blindly accepting a drug from a company who only cares about money = smart
Pwning4Ever ago
Which is true, but these infections didn't come back in a vacuum. Anti-vaxxers are not a threat because everyone around them is vaccinated. But it changes if you import people that do have the virus.
LampshadeMaker ago
The infections never went away, dipshit. Go fight futile, pointless wars with nature using your own spawn as cannon fodder, fuckface.
OhGoodLord2 ago
Shhh it's totally Becky! White women who stay at home with their kids, swim laps at the Y and have the audacity to buy lattes are a huge threat to national stability. It's definitely not the people pushing their 3 year old over a wall to sneak into the USA. They're noble heroes who should be celebrated! But Whitey? Whitey gots to go!
SRS-Airbag ago
It's easier to blame white people then answer for their retarded policies.
99887766 ago
Because had they got vaccinated they wouldn't have had the measles. You're a moron if you're against vaccinations.
myvoicefromhell ago
Oh, really? This guy thought he was pretty smart, too...
https://i.postimg.cc/QMXW2CqF/Screenshot-from-2019-01-12-15-54-07.png
99887766 ago
Of course there's going to be a tiny percentage of people that have problems. Do you really expect something to be 100% safe for everybody? For 99 percent of people vaccinations are safe and the fact that people are vaccinated saves millions of lives. If people were to go unvaccinated the death toll from disease spreading would be astronomical in comparison to the few people who have problems with their vaccinations. try to think things through fully in the future
myvoicefromhell ago
Um, no. The reality is that only a tiny percentage of cases who have problems ever see the light of day in world media because of a concerted effort to hide the facts. You can continue to deny this all you want, but it doesn't make it less true.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/u-s-media-blackout-italian-courts-rule-vaccines-cause-autism/
https://vactruth.com/2014/10/05/bill-gates-vaccine-crimes/
When you say that 99% of people are safe, do you mean 99% of people who are vaccinated live through the vaccination process? Have you considered purity of vaccines because that seems to be the problem with them right now. In fact, a scientist recently did a study himself on many vaccines and what he found was that vaccine suspensions are contaminated. He did many studies on many vaccines from many pharmaceutical companies just last year. How many studies did you do?
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=7wS9hyHvqLw
99887766 ago
I don't think you understand the positive impact these vaccines has had on Humanity. They have and do save millions of lives. Are you saying that these vaccines causes more death than the diseases would?
Warnos44 ago
I'm sure sanitation has nothing to do with it.
myvoicefromhell ago
To do with what, exactly?
Warnos44 ago
You don't even have to read the article. Scroll until you see the charts.
https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/5/14/savehumanity
myvoicefromhell ago
Let me get this straight; did you just say a known carcinogen saves lives?
basedmangod2015 ago
why not both? personally i think anti vaxxers are worse because they had the chance to NOT have measles and said "yeah thats fine for me, but not my kids" the third worlders never had that chance
clamhurt_legbeard ago
Because the government wants to replace white people with foreigners.
Get your shots.
Crackrocknigga ago
Anything that can possibly be blamed on white people is blamed on white people.. Anything that can't be blamed on white people, is spun to be blamed on white people. When a darkie does something, it was so they'd know that behavior was "wrong" and whitey made them do it.
NoTrueScotsman ago
Not to mention these third worlders are incapable of basic sanitation and bring in active infections of diseases that we had eradicated.
The1stLantern ago
You fucking know why
HillBoulder ago
Tell me (((why)))?
GreyAlien ago
OY VEY
Bananazz ago
Medical industry requires sick people to stay in business. It's that simple.
SIayfire122 ago
'nervously sheckeling'
hamman365 ago
absolutely spot on
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
If vaccines worked, those vaccinated have absolutely nothing to worry about
Fred ago
Beyond what multiple others have mentioned: There are people who cannot get vaccinated due to actual medical issues, (and not retarded soccer moms who think autism is caused months or years after birth) who rely on herd immunity to get by.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Vaccines Cause Autism
Fred ago
Vaccines cause adulthood.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Autistic Adults
Fred ago
You're living proof.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Kikes did 9/11
Fred ago
Not relevant.
xberb ago
Herd immunity is a thing
figgernaggot1488 ago
That's not how it works. Immunity isn't absolute. Your exposure to pathogens can overwhelm your immune system even if you have immunity. You can only have so many WBCs in your blood.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
Hey Vax Kike Shill!
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
"anyone who disagrees with me is a shill"
~Jew
Tekedo ago
Vaccines have a ~95% effectiveness due to how our immune systems function. The white blood cells don't know how to stop a threat until they are aware of it. They go into mutate mode to see what fights the disease and when something works, BAM it's deployed and the invasion is stopped.
Some times, the immune system doesn't quite mutate enough in time to kill the weakened/dead disease in the vaccine. That means that even if you were vaccinated, you could still be vulnerable.
That's why group immunity is so important, and why vaccines have to be deployed in mass numbers to be effective.
NoRoyalty ago
Complety fabricated efficacy rate. By Big Pharma.
HillBoulder ago
Somebody is missing the point.
Biggerpotato ago
The flu vaccine is reportedly between 5-30% effective in any given year. Go and get your dose of heavy metals, fluouride, and animal bits.
NoRoyalty ago
Vitamin D3 studies show much much higher effectiveness rates against flu.
Tekedo ago
Ok, when I say Vaccine, I'm generally referring to long-lasting, one and done shots for measles or TB. I didn't grow up in a time where flu shots were such a common thing. I would never get a flu shot.
"Get a shot every year and don't ask questions" is obviously fucked. Also, with flu vaccines, one of the reasons they are so infective is because different strains of flu are spread in different years, and the vaccine labs have to guess which strain will be around 5 months in advance. Also, flu vaccines are generally shit anyway, with a lot of flus being pretty resistant. 2 years ago, I got H3N2, which is a very resistant strain of flu. The sickest I've ever been in my life. Went to the doctor, had to use an inhaler for a week, and I can't cough the same way anymore. Nothing would have changed if I had gotten the flu shot, as everyone who got the flu shot around me got sick anyway!
In short: stopping measles, mumps, and TB: Good - Getting yearly injections of a VIRUS (Can't be killed, they aren't alive) to make you less sick maybe: Bad.
sbt2160p ago
lol, you make it sound like some undefeatable super-force. Of course it can die. Like a Jew with no gentiles to leech off of.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
No he's just going into the debate that makes biologists throw chairs at each other.
Basically there are several requirements for a thing to be considered alive, Viruses fail some but not all of them, most notably that they do not reproduce on their own but reprogram other organism's cells to create more viruses. Therefore viruses are not alive, and therefore cannot be killed as he said, just like you cannot kill a stone or a corpse.
Now there are other definitions of life where Viruses CAN be considered alive. It's really just arguing over specifics of definitions.
slwsnowman40 ago
When I would get the flu shot, I'd get sick. I haven't gotten a shot of any kind in the last 6 years. Got sick last week for the first time in a few years and I'm already over the worse of that cold. Haven't been to a doctor in 10 years or so.
xberb ago
This is why males tend to die earlier from completely fixable/catchable things
slwsnowman40 ago
I don't have time to go, and when I have time, I don't have money. If they were more like McDonald's, I'd probably go on a schedule. And by more like McDonald's, I mean there should be a menu that I pick and chose why I'm there with clear prices and I have the option of using my healthcare or not.
lordvain2 ago
The science is one thing, sure we get it. What you and others like you refuse to get is that we don't trust the industry any more. You always refuse to address that point. The industry is criminal, and has been made immune to the rule of law. They have caused the deaths and injury of millions and are not held accountable. You would have to be some kind of idiot to trust any company like that. They admit their product kills people. We should never HAVE to trust them.
DrugAddict ago
If you know they work then what does trust have to do with anything?
elitch2 ago
There is no science. Not one double blind study has ever been conducted on vaccines.
Motoko ago
They test vaccines on aborted babies
Tekedo ago
Yeah I get you with the industry stuff. Who is getting the masses addicted to opium?
Exactly as you said, as a Science it's one thing, as a business it's totally different. Totally agree.
ReadPastHeadlines ago
The debate, then, needs to move away from effectiveness of the concept of immunisation and into a debate of execution. Limitations of ingredients and function. Removal of liability protection for manufacturers. And never legal mandates for medical procedures.
lordvain2 ago
Every article, TV spot always frames this as some unqualified parents don't trust vaccine science, as if our pharma industry was a paragon of virtue and beyond reproach. The pharma industry is profit driven and equally if not more corrupt than any other profit driven industry. Numerous cover-ups have been exposed and have never been prosecuted. They experiment with the public and have Vaccine Courts that cover their crimes. No we are not talking about the science, we are talking about complete bastardization of the science for profit. Trust my ass.
hamman365 ago
for the most part vaccines do work, but only as long as the whole herd is innoculated. I'm of the let me decide what to do crowd and not the do as you are told crowd.
stray502 ago
lol so in other words you agree vaccines dont work. If you are vaccinated then there is no worry about someone who is not because there fore you should not be getting the disease. So no thanks none of the poison for me they can go ahead and kill the sheep.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Jesus fucking Christ stop with this retarded "gotcha" to a claim that nobody makes.
This is only a valid "gotcha" if vaccines are claimed to be 100% effective for 100% of the population which nobody seriously claims. if a vaccine is say 95% effective then those 5% remaining people are only protected by herd Immunity, effectively a vaccine reducing the total amount of people infected then reduces the amount of person to person infection which protects the people who the vaccine didn't work on.
hamman365 ago
i do believe vaccines work - but you have to have herd immunity to make them effective. If you only give 1% the vaccine, its not going to work well
elitch2 ago
Really? Could you please point me to the scientific, double-blind study that proves the efficacy of vaccines?
kneo24 ago
Question, if Vaccines didn't work, why are these out breaks a more recent phenomenon? You're asking people to try and find studies of every single vaccine when people are refusing to address this basic premise.
elitch2 ago
I'm asking for one single scientific study proving the efficacy of vaccination.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Your question doesn't make any fucking sense, either.
InyourfaceNancyGrace ago
Would you prefer a scientific study or a history book/lesson?
Trick question: You get both.
Vaccination has been known to be effective for a couple hundred years, and it was forefathered by inoculation, which has been known to be effective for several centuries longer. So long, in fact, that you probably know what "Pox parties" are, but you don't know where they came from. "Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems..."
Okay, since you didn't technically ask for any side of history, here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28604255
elitch2 ago
Okay, buddy. good luck with your bullshit.
Still waiting for that scientific study.
Perhaps you don't know what science is? https://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/science-fair/steps-of-the-scientific-method
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
ah the classic, "keep repeating yourself like a retard and ignore all evidence strategy", I hope it works out for you.
kneo24 ago
And I will be more clear. Choose a vaccine. Your position seems to be that none work. How do you which do and do not work? I don't know which ones you've looked at, or even if you know the names of any vaccines. Tell me, which ones don't work.
I didn't, but it's clear you're retarded given your next statement.
That's because you're fucking stupid, apparently.
Now, to placate you, finding a study was easy. Here's one detailing the efficacy of herd of immunity, which directly correlates to the efficacy of vaccinations working. It also discusses which vaccines didn't work. This is why it's important you define your criteria instead of leaving it so open ended. If you feel none of the vaccines worked, it should have been trivial for you to name one. Just one. You failed, like a dumb nigger.
elitch2 ago
Apparently you don't know the difference between a speculative paper and a scientific study.
"Herd immunity" is some huge bullshit, just ask a rancher.
You are clearly following the shill manual, and I'm not wasting my time on you.
kneo24 ago
You have absolutely refused to name one, just one vaccine that doesn't work. You have clearly shown to not understand basic questions in relation to the topic when asked. You also just equated animal biology to human biology as if a direct correlation matters, without proving it does. Had I actually put words in your mouth that you didn't imply or say, you would have pointed it out.
The paper I linked, had you bothered to read it at all, bypasses your need for a direct link to any scientific study (beyond the fact that you absolutely refuse to give one example, and you easily could, of a vaccine that doesn't work for actual discussion).
Let me make it real simple for you. If the vaccines didn't work, due to population growth, we'd see more cases per year of these diseases since the inception of these vaccine programs. We're only seeing that very recently, and for whatever reason you're not even asking why, but would rather throw the baby out with the bat water.
If vaccines didn't work and herd immunity was bullshit, the paper I linked wouldn't have been able to make a correlation between infection ratess of those vaccinated, and those around them who haven't been vaccinated.
Lastly, if you're going to lob the shill accusation at someone, at least have a fucking clue and don't engage in the very tactics you're decrying (note, I'm not calling you a shill here, I just find the hypocrisy amusing). I'm not even saying all vaccines work, or that they're all good. Perhaps this is due to your inability to read and comprehend. I've read NPC's sometimes have that problem. Are you one?
elitch2 ago
No, I'm just not dancing to your tune, retard.
So, you go ahead and find a double blind scientific study proving the efficacy of any vaccine, and I'll address your bullshit.
Until then, have fun sperging out at your monitor. And don't forget to get your flu shot!
kneo24 ago
Yeah, heaven forbid if someone asks you for specifics. And while you're at it, keep engaging in shill tactics while crying at others for doing so, hypocrite.
hamman365 ago
naw not going to get into that, its my belief and i think anti vaxxers are some of the most selfish, stupid fuckers around - you want to get polio? well that's how you get polio.
talmoridor-x ago
Because you can't
hamman365 ago
i dont need to - i think anti vaxxers are retards - don't have to prove it to you - just like im not asking you to prove to me that not vaccinating is not dangerous
elitch2 ago
Yeah, who needs scientific verification when you have propaganda and feels, eh?
Polio never existed. It's a statistical manipulation.
You are a sheep.
Baaaaah.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
That's the most retarded thing I've read all day.
elitch2 ago
Yet it is 100% fact.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
It is 100% not fact.
You believing that 2 +2 = 5 doesn't make it a fact.
elitch2 ago
Baaaah.
VicariousJambi ago
Could you source or explain how?
hamman365 ago
no he can't - polio, rubella, mumps, TB are not statistical manipulation. Its retards like this that give true skeptics a bad name.
VicariousJambi ago
he already to me with a source
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined/
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
You do realize that is an opinion piece as seen at the top of the page if you bothered to actually read the link? It's not a scientific study at all.
Just linking to a "source" doesn't automatically make someone correct.
elitch2 ago
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined/
There's more if you search it out.
"Polio" as people think about it (paralysis, iron lungs, etc) was most likely extreme DDT poisoning, and was only a fraction of a percent of all "polio" cases. During the time frame of the "polio" epidemic, people would literally feed their children DDT. They would spay the children from head to toe in, and directly apply DDT to foodstuffs.
Polio was known as "the Summer disease", coincidentally. Summer, when you're eating fresh fruit and playing outside, covered in DDT.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Why exactly are you presenting an opinion piece as if it was an actual source?
Unless you're just hoping people see you linked something and assume you're correct without clicking the link and seeing that it's labeled as opinion.
elitch2 ago
I don't give a fuck. Go get your flu shot, fuck head.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
I don't get flu shots.
VicariousJambi ago
Nice, thanks for the info!
Epictetus_Hierapolis ago
VicariousJambi ago
I'll wait to see what the person I'm actually asking says.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
i mean that logic only works if Vaccines are effective on 100% of the population, which we know they aren't.
Fred8850 ago
Herd Immunity: A False Rationale for Vaccine Mandates http://www.renegadetribune.com/herd-immunity-a-false-rationale-for-vaccine-mandates/ You must be pro vaccine.
sparts ago
They think anti vaxxers are conservatives whereas third world savages are vibrant, beneficial diversity.
flapjack_charlie ago
Ironically, anti vaxxers tend to be college educated liberals.
SHIVASHIVASHIVA ago
ironically 'vaccines" are fake dirty-gypsy-jew "science"...
DrugAddict ago
Lol, no, ignorant Facebook moms are the anti vaxxers
flapjack_charlie ago
Most of whom went to college and call themselves liberal
DrugAddict ago
Maybe went for 1 year, got knocked up by some nigger, then dropped out. Would hardly call those bitches college educated
flapjack_charlie ago
No, most of them are white, have white kids and husbands, and graduated from college, although probably not an elite one. That's the irony, they try to paint this as a right wing thing and it isnt.
Sunnybrooke ago
Can I have generalizations for 200, Alex?
flapjack_charlie ago
Yeah, that's what the "tend to" implies. Also, generalizations are usually how one describes a group given that its rarely possible to describe specifics of a disparate group of individuals.
FridayJones ago
I thought most anti-vaxxers were New Age crystal-hugger broads who believe that we'd be immortal were it not for "toxins."
riffwraff ago
No. Anti-vaxxers are just slandered as such. No one except a handful of retards believes that hippy crap. Most anti-vaxxers are parents who don't want to pump their infant children full of mystery chemicals, the contents and effects of which are largely unknown. When big pharma is called out on this they slander these people as crazy. If some kike hands you a syringe and refuses to tell you what it is, but says it will make your baby not get sick, you'd be suspicious too
DrugAddict ago
Is there proof of this conspiracy?
Rangan451 ago
Nope there isn't but these people will belive anything as long as it agrees with their world view, echo chamber and naivity, that's probably how you get to that point.
riffwraff ago
Ask a pharmaceutical company what they put in vaccines. They won't give you a straight answer but still expect you to put it in your child. It isn't a conspiracy, it's a matter of big pharma Jews refusing to disclose what they want you to put in your child's body.
Rangan451 ago
Damn boy antisemitism much? It's hilarious how you can be so wrong and just so idiotic in so few sentences, just wow! It is so easy to find out what is in vaccines, it's just your laziness or ignorance preventing you from being informed.
riffwraff ago
Jews run big pharma. Am I wrong?
phuk_hugh_hall ago
So this is why you are here. You are a kike shill! I really need to know...Why does the rabbi have to suck your dick after he cuts the tip off? Is it like, "Sorry little guy...here, Uncle Schlomo will make it better...mmmm...nomnomnom". Is that why you h8 yt?
Rangan451 ago
Ahh damn I fed the troll
phuk_hugh_hall ago
Hitler was right. The Black Sun will rise.
TPTBNewsReviewer ago
From my perspective, most anti-vaxxers are lefties, and conservatives worship doctors.
Futt_Buckinton ago
Am anti vaxx... Am major conservative
TPTBNewsReviewer ago
Me, too, but are you kidding yourself in believing most anti-vaxxers are conservative, or do you acknowledge we are the minority? Same goes for eating organic, and trusting allopathic medicine.
NoRoyalty ago
Very close family member who is a liberal does not like forced vaccines. Just anecdotal, I know.
Low_Paid_Porno_Noob ago
The Israelis don't vaccinate, I wonder why?
frenulum_fondler ago
That's not quite true; vaccinations are not required by law in Israel, but they do vaccinate there:
https://www.nbn.org.il/aliyahpedia/government-services/health-care-national-insurance/childhood-vaccinations-flu-shots-immunizations/
Mikel777 ago
"If your child is born in Israel, you will receive a Pinkas Chisunim (vaccination booklet) when the baby is born, before you leave the hospital. If your child is born abroad, a Pinkas Chisunim will be issued at your first Tipat Chalav visit."
lol. so i you are born abroad you get the shots, born in israel, you get a little pamphlet....
and...drumroll...
"Vaccinating your child is not required by law in Israel."
and there you have it. on your very own link. Btw, that pic of a jewish woman with a sneer giving a shot to a blonde child really sinks the message in.
wholesomechoking ago
I think people associate the anti-vaxxers with leftists because of the skepticism towards government on both ends. Just, one of us retarded and the other is skeptical.
Warnos44 ago
Anti vaxxer is a poor choice of a word. Anti poison is a better choice.
The MSM has done a great job painting a picture of irrational people being completely anti vaccines in order to keep the majority of the population from starting to question to.
I'm sure there are some who are liberal leaning who are anti vaccines, but just think about that. A person who begins to question the fabric of the reality they've been painted tends to wake up and see other things they didn't know were there before.
It's generally conservatives who are anti vaccines/poison. It's not the vaccines we have problems with, it's what they chose to make them out of and refusal to find better alternatives when they know what is in them is harmful, but it's cost effective.
The IDF has nothing on big pharma when it comes to damage control, goys.
Mikel777 ago
Vaccine, etmologically speaking, literally means "empty of nature" vac, being the same root as evacuate or vacate, and ine meaning nature.
So these vaccines are chemical lobotomy weapons, designed to remove a persons nature.
innoculate is a similar word. If you look up the roots, you'll learn it literally means "remove or negate seeing"
So it is right in your face what these chemicals/toxins are used for right there in the words used to depict them.
Warnos44 ago
Gee wonder why we stopped learning latin.
Mikel777 ago
there are lots of words like that in English with hidden meanings. You really have to look at them closely. then you have amagram words, with reaaranged letters, or maybe they sound like another word with a negative connotation. All kinds of tricks for hiding real meanings.
Warnos44 ago
Also flagrant use of terms for names.
foxyfux ago
i was pretty surprised when i looked this up. i thought they were anti vaccines too of course. its not the case. theyre against getting 100+ weird stuff inject ed for no reason other than making money in thr fear of being infected which can also in fact make you sick. then you need more pills. the perfect plan.
xberb ago
Fuckin nutjob
Warnos44 ago
Totally right. Identifying ingredients known to poison people is insane.
Phantom42 ago
He still probably believes in the Holocaust too.
Give him some time.
Mylon ago
Vaccines are sound science. I just wish we'd spend some effort modernizing their delivery.
Phantom42 ago
A pill is better than a shot.
Mylon ago
Not every kind of medicine/treatment can survive the digestive track.
Phantom42 ago
Good point....
BIGGER PILLS!
:P
Warnos44 ago
So much this. Every "anti vaxxer" has been asking for this from the beginning.
Warnos44 ago
So much this. Every "anti vaxxer" has been asking for this from the beginning.
figgernaggot1488 ago
Depends on who you ask.
The facts are the facts. Even if vaccines are a poison, the fact remains that they save far more lives than they cost. Botulism is a poison too, and you can build immunity by microdosing it. That's how vaccines work.
PatriotLady1 ago
The hell you say. I'm sitting here with a damaged heart from a polio vaccine. They can shove vaxs up their ass.
lucidjoe ago
Or instead of saying “anti-vaxxer” say you’re “pro-choice” on the issue.
lissencarak ago
There is something to what you say.
The problem is that putting new adjuvants in a vaccine requires another round of testing with the government
And nobody's going to pay for that
And the mercury/aluminum is mostly almost harmless for most people.
UberAngler ago
If that’s the case let them test it on your kids.
lissencarak ago
they are vaccinated
still not showing a lot of interest in anime, though, so we'll have to do another round
Sunnybrooke ago
They have never conclusively tested the effects of injected aluminum and they have no plans to do so according to my pharma friend...for "reasons".
lissencarak ago
It's pretty well tested in some sense. But it is a mild poison. That's basically what an "adjuvant" is. Poisons you a little bit so your immune system kicks into gear.
Sunnybrooke ago
I was under the impression that aluminum was being used as a preservative and not as one of the immune system irritants that they use to increase profits.
lissencarak ago
aluminum is the adjuvant
a mercury-based compound is used as a preservative in multi-dose vaccines (they don't use it in single-shot since those can be just made in single sterile doses)
Warnos44 ago
You say this as if they test it at all.
Have you seen the recent studies on "quality control" on these things?
Even more, have you seen those who push for vaccines talk about how they're going to limit the population?
lissencarak ago
Well, limiting the population didn't work, so they will just replace you now.
I wouldn't worry about vaccines too much.
And with all the diseased niggers coming, I would be getting some shots.
Warnos44 ago
I don't know if you have children. But many children are very susceptible to vaccine ingredients. Many of them are damaged because of it. There is even a test that wouldn't harm anyone to find out of a vaccine is likely to cause the damage, but they don't use it.
Doctor's are supposed to minimize the harm. A simple test... But they don't do it.
The only reason I am where I am today on the pizzagate, JQ, understanding both parties are two sides of the same coin, is because of this very topic.
You have a child who is vaccine injured, and you find out how many others are, and then you see they still do nothing... Take a look at agenda 21... See what the people in control say in their conferences that no one pays attention to...
Well. It's enough to wake anyone up.
lissencarak ago
Well, no, you just have paranoid thinking. Not really a bad thing (helps with critical thinking).
Some people are sensitive to vaccination, sure. The absolute number probably is in the "many", but as a fraction of the population, the number is not that great.
I am not aware of a test, unless they have figured out a way to check for genetic problems with aluminum elimination (there was a paper on that a few months back, but it's very recent).
The big problem with this is that if you have white kids, borders are not closing and these old diseases are coming back. And kids don't do well with dangerous diseases. Research what vaccines you get for your kids, and space them out as needed just in case. If you have $ you can make the doctor do any additional tests you want - as long as those are available.
MrDarkWater ago
Or we can fix the (((real))) problem. Kill infinite birds with one stone.
Get right with God, shlomo
lissencarak ago
Well until you can somehow (???) wrestle control of the media from Shlomo and close the borders, I will be vaccinating mine and acting as if expecting living standards to be rapidly deteriorating, especially in the cities.
MrDarkWater ago
Working on that.
Meanwhile, us out in the sticks are homeschooling and not vaccinating. You all in the city so you're thing. We'll be out here living with God.
lissencarak ago
ah well once kamala harris is in office, they will be building a section 8 right by your house
or government might just start buying rural houses and giving them to niggers and spics for free
Remember: white genocide is the official policy and law of the US government
edit: which is why you should vaccinate while you still can
MrDarkWater ago
then we will end its power, kike
lissencarak ago
you produced any white kids or just larping?
MrDarkWater ago
no. why do you jews seem to want your own genocide?
you lose whites, you lose your protection. Satan is using you for your own destruction. and you're proving Paul right
fucking inbred retards
polkadottedhero ago
Not the case in Oregon. But then again, all the lefties here worship the almighty government and the healthcare it provides.
InyourfaceNancyGrace ago
Not the case in Oregon, you say?
I remembered a story a few years back about some island in Oregon that was vax-free and kids were like dying or getting critically injured by pertussis. Made me chuckle.
polkadottedhero ago
Interesting that Mississippi has no data since vaccines are mandatory there. I am betting a lot has changed since 2014
Sunnybrooke ago
Tell us more about this fictitious island in Oregon. Also, linking Mother Jones..what are you on?
InyourfaceNancyGrace ago
Sand Island, Russian Island, Tenasilhee Island... it was some little hippy commune type place. But you may be right; it could have been Washington. It was a few years ago and I just remember Pacific NW... looking at it now I think it might have been Seattle I was thinking of - either way a bunch of NW hyper liberal faggots weren't getting basic immunizations for their kids and so their kids were dying or getting critically injured as a result. We've known about immunization technology for literally centuries yet people still refuse to believe.
And fuck off with the ad hominem - save that shit for fagbook. "Der her MotherJones dumb!" The source of the data is the CDC and if you weren't a dumb fuck drooling mouth breathing cunt who was capable of mounting more meaningful statement than "I don't like your source therefore your point is invalid" then you'd notice important details like that. Fuck.
slwsnowman40 ago
It like that in Commiefornia.
Schlomo-KikesDid9-11 ago
It's all about Kike profits at big pharma, plus killing goy
22trilionAsecond ago
killing you slowly so we can sill pay for medical care