Here's my secret. Whenever I meet a woman, my immediate thought and approach is always "what can you do for me?" Everything I do, everything I say is then in pursuit of that. I want coffee, will she buy me coffee? I'd like a new shirt, will she go with me to the mall and buy me a shirt I pick out? I find being blunt helps a lot.
Do that long enough and you weed out the leeches. The ones that are left either become weirdly attracted to you (but you keep them friend-zoned), stop asking you for shit because they understand the nature of the dynamic and know they can't get one over on you but will keep buying you stuff in exchange for words of wisdom, or eventually develop into a relationship that's give and take on your terms.
I figured out everything you're saying in my 20s. In fact, it's especially common for married women to do this. They'll have a husband taking care of them and their kids(that often aren't his) and they'll have a guy on the side. A lot of the times, it's not about who has the bigger dick or who makes the most money, it's just that most people only understand stepping on someone or being stepped on. A woman like this, regardless of how great looking a guy is, how awesome he is in bed, the money he makes, once she believes in her mind she has the upper hand on him, she'll run all over him until there is nothing left to take and then leave an empty shell behind in her wake. This can be hard to recognize too because often when a lady is in love with you that first year or year and a half, you can't get a good beat on them. I find it is easy to spot them now due to lifestyle choices and with conversation.
What I do now is try and date ladies there is some potential with, ladies with the ability to see the bigger picture. That's extremely difficult to find as most ladies divorced and 30+ with kids are a fucking wreck. Their kids are shit. Their attitudes are even worse. Their entitlement issues are off the charts. I could easily play most of these for whatever I want but it's just not worth it to me anymore.
What I do now is date sometimes to meet someone I enjoy spending time with. On the side I will date one or two types:
Type 1: Sugarbaby who is going to get dinner, maybe a couple gifts or help with bills who is younger, hot and is a great lay. They are pleasant. We don't spend a ton of time together. Sometimes it's a date and sometimes they'll come over while I'm grilling and get some sweet peter.
Type 2: A lady I'll take out on a date, fuck but really have no interest in anything long term. She'll want to come over. I'll tell her I'm tired. I'll often make her bring me food over. The less I want to see her, the more shit she'll offer to buy me. I have had them buy me shirts, TV, TV mounts, a PS4, videogames, Blue Rays, etc. At the same time, going to the mall with them or out to eat with them on a regular basis seems like too much of a waste of time to me so I usually just have them come over sometimes and bring me some pussy and dinner.
Your type two actually works out better for you in terms of keeping them "hooked." If you take a type 2 out in public too much (and the threshold varies wildly), you start getting "rebellious" behavior. The woman thinks you're "showing her off" and whether or not she likes the attention (they usually do), they'll start doing dumb shit to either try to make you jealous or act resentful like you're sexualizing them, even though no one's telling them to push their tits up in a dress or anything.
Keeping them at home (or other comfortable private setting) slightly disarms the woman by taking away an external source of attention and returning that control to you. They can still act resentful in this setting, but the line to "cross" is much higher. You'll find in extreme cases (an untenable type 2) that they'll commonly hurt themselves and call the police or wait and later complain to friends and family that you're abusive.
Obviously, if you've gotten to that point, you messed up long ago. Still, not all is lost -- make sure to get gift receipts whenever possible for evidenciary purposes. I personally have a wireless IP camera set up in all my common areas. They don't record until activated by a spoken passphrase.
I think the biggest key to success about all this is to recognize that being straight forward and blunt is not the same as being a dick or asshole. I try my very hardest to always be polite -- please and thank you and are you warm enough and all that.
HAHAHA I don't even get that deep into it, don't need to. I never sleep with them on the first date. If I get a lady and she is indecisive, making out heavy then wanting to stop and then wanting to start again that is a red flag to me and we're not having sex. If one ever gets loud or aggressive then that's it. They're never coming back over. But like I said, I screen them out pretty good. I haven't had anything like that happen in years. I've just become so good at spotting them. Also, I have no need of them financially and it's not like I don't have other options. If I see things escalating, I'll be nice. If they keep going then I say "what do you want? " They never seem to have an answer for that. But once they start acting that way they're not coming back over.
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Splooge ago
Here's my secret. Whenever I meet a woman, my immediate thought and approach is always "what can you do for me?" Everything I do, everything I say is then in pursuit of that. I want coffee, will she buy me coffee? I'd like a new shirt, will she go with me to the mall and buy me a shirt I pick out? I find being blunt helps a lot.
Do that long enough and you weed out the leeches. The ones that are left either become weirdly attracted to you (but you keep them friend-zoned), stop asking you for shit because they understand the nature of the dynamic and know they can't get one over on you but will keep buying you stuff in exchange for words of wisdom, or eventually develop into a relationship that's give and take on your terms.
TheWheelofTime ago
I figured out everything you're saying in my 20s. In fact, it's especially common for married women to do this. They'll have a husband taking care of them and their kids(that often aren't his) and they'll have a guy on the side. A lot of the times, it's not about who has the bigger dick or who makes the most money, it's just that most people only understand stepping on someone or being stepped on. A woman like this, regardless of how great looking a guy is, how awesome he is in bed, the money he makes, once she believes in her mind she has the upper hand on him, she'll run all over him until there is nothing left to take and then leave an empty shell behind in her wake. This can be hard to recognize too because often when a lady is in love with you that first year or year and a half, you can't get a good beat on them. I find it is easy to spot them now due to lifestyle choices and with conversation.
What I do now is try and date ladies there is some potential with, ladies with the ability to see the bigger picture. That's extremely difficult to find as most ladies divorced and 30+ with kids are a fucking wreck. Their kids are shit. Their attitudes are even worse. Their entitlement issues are off the charts. I could easily play most of these for whatever I want but it's just not worth it to me anymore.
What I do now is date sometimes to meet someone I enjoy spending time with. On the side I will date one or two types:
Type 1: Sugarbaby who is going to get dinner, maybe a couple gifts or help with bills who is younger, hot and is a great lay. They are pleasant. We don't spend a ton of time together. Sometimes it's a date and sometimes they'll come over while I'm grilling and get some sweet peter.
Type 2: A lady I'll take out on a date, fuck but really have no interest in anything long term. She'll want to come over. I'll tell her I'm tired. I'll often make her bring me food over. The less I want to see her, the more shit she'll offer to buy me. I have had them buy me shirts, TV, TV mounts, a PS4, videogames, Blue Rays, etc. At the same time, going to the mall with them or out to eat with them on a regular basis seems like too much of a waste of time to me so I usually just have them come over sometimes and bring me some pussy and dinner.
Splooge ago
Your type two actually works out better for you in terms of keeping them "hooked." If you take a type 2 out in public too much (and the threshold varies wildly), you start getting "rebellious" behavior. The woman thinks you're "showing her off" and whether or not she likes the attention (they usually do), they'll start doing dumb shit to either try to make you jealous or act resentful like you're sexualizing them, even though no one's telling them to push their tits up in a dress or anything.
Keeping them at home (or other comfortable private setting) slightly disarms the woman by taking away an external source of attention and returning that control to you. They can still act resentful in this setting, but the line to "cross" is much higher. You'll find in extreme cases (an untenable type 2) that they'll commonly hurt themselves and call the police or wait and later complain to friends and family that you're abusive.
Obviously, if you've gotten to that point, you messed up long ago. Still, not all is lost -- make sure to get gift receipts whenever possible for evidenciary purposes. I personally have a wireless IP camera set up in all my common areas. They don't record until activated by a spoken passphrase.
I think the biggest key to success about all this is to recognize that being straight forward and blunt is not the same as being a dick or asshole. I try my very hardest to always be polite -- please and thank you and are you warm enough and all that.
TheWheelofTime ago
HAHAHA I don't even get that deep into it, don't need to. I never sleep with them on the first date. If I get a lady and she is indecisive, making out heavy then wanting to stop and then wanting to start again that is a red flag to me and we're not having sex. If one ever gets loud or aggressive then that's it. They're never coming back over. But like I said, I screen them out pretty good. I haven't had anything like that happen in years. I've just become so good at spotting them. Also, I have no need of them financially and it's not like I don't have other options. If I see things escalating, I'll be nice. If they keep going then I say "what do you want? " They never seem to have an answer for that. But once they start acting that way they're not coming back over.
Splooge ago
Hey, whatever floats your boat, friend. I find this sort of stuff fascinating and enjoy doing these little amateur psychoanalyses.