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elitch2 ago

I've yet to see compelling evidence that the Earth is anything other than a flat plain.

I have a 145 IQ, and am not a religious nut bag. I simply discarded all my beliefs three years ago, and now operate entirely based on evidence.

Show me the evidence for a pear-shaped (that's what they are saying now, yes?) Earth.

And don't just yell "gravity, idiot!" at me, because gravity is still a theory, unproven.

I've done a curvature experiment, and could see my marker at more than 5 miles. This shouldn't be possible.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=ADYFTgTyox8 explain this.

Ampharias ago

Is there evidence the rest of the celestial bodies visible appear spherical? and, if they appear so, what contrary evidence suggests the earth is not?

These may very well be simple questions from a simple mind asked time and time again; I'm just too lazy to research answers from flat earthers myself.

elitch2 ago

Are you talking about the stars? I can't tell what they are, other than lights in the night sky. How did you deduce they appear spherical?

Ampharias ago

Well, similarly to the tests you've performed over the 5 miles or so, you could get your hands on a telescope and observe the planets visible with such devices. In doing so you may observe a rotation of said bodies on an axis as opposed to a flat spin. I personally can deduce from the curvature of the shadow on the moon that at least this celestial body is not flat and this is the most rudimentary of observations.

I've also flown in an aircraft at +/- 30,000 feet and observed a curved surface. While this may in fact have been an enclosed space where anything is possible, I think the simplest solution to any question is, in fact, the simplest. The windows were clear, my eyes were working, the earth appeared curved so for myself I've got a couple of clear indicators.

I hope you can determine what fits into your needs in regard to this and I commend your ability to determine things for yourself!

elitch2 ago

100% bullshit you've seen the curvature from height with your naked eye. Bullshit.

Ampharias ago

My statement was merely that, a statement. Your belief in any statement made by anyone is up to you and really, I didn't make the statement to sway you, merely to inform you of something I have been a part of. What you take away from that is on you.

You could, for instance, get a plane ticket, go anywhere, and prove me wrong by observing something different as this is how you have stated you are now viewing the world. Your flat out denial actually goes against what you've professed to have taken up as your new belief system of discarding everything everyone says and only rely on what you've tested. If something is untested it doesn't mean it's bullshit, it means it's unknown.

If you take an unknown and view it as such it remains this. Unknown. the five mile test you've embarked upon could have faulty parameters you've overlooked. To determine something is completely true or completely false based on only one observation might be considered well, sloppy. The best truths are of course able to be reproduced.

Here's a few more statements of opinion from yours truely hoping you have a good time embarking on redefining the world to parameters you can test! Suggestion, try a few simple ones to get a good framework, study the scientific method as this seems to create tests that will others will be able to test, and have fun!

As an aside, did you develop the 5 mile test yourself, or are you relying on a test created by another? This could go against your new philosophy unless you've verified the mathematics involved, tested the speed of light of the laser, or a myriad list of other things you've taken at face value to make your determinations. If you cherry pick the ideas and hold fast to ideals, you may have slipped into the realm of belief as opposed to observation.

Happy travels!

elitch2 ago

Care to explain why a compass always points north, even in the "southern hemisphere"?

Ampharias ago

Interesting question! I can only pull from others observations as I've been geographically located in an area roughly 800 miles in diameter most of my life.

From what I understand is it doesn't in fact point north, it points to an area somewhere in the north of Ontario, thus leading to the setting of declination of hand held magnetic compasses to get them to point north.

Take it as you like, the angles of declination work best on a hemisphere from what I understand.

Love the questions by the way, thank you for your time!