I notice that many of you have commented (because you can barely do anything else) asking why you don't have CCP (Comment Contribution Points). So I want to explain because I feel bad that this wasn't brought to your attention earlier.
Voat limits all new accounts for reasons of SPAM. To unlock your account you must earn CCP by commenting and having others upvote your contributions. It is orders more difficult for a botnet to unlock accounts with this requirement in place and is why we use this particular method.
For example: You need 10 CCP to make a submission or send a message. You need 100 CCP to unlock downvoat capabilities.
The reason you don't have any CCP is because the moderator(s) set a particular subverse property that prevents the earning of points in v/theawakening.
This subverse property is called: Minimum CCP required to downvote and when it is set to anything but zero three things happen (which are documented in the subverse settings. This information is also displayed in the sidebar so you can see what subverses have set what values):
- It prevents users who don't have at least X CCP in the subverse itself from downvoating content in that subverse.
- It prevents all submissions from showing up in v/all (basically making the subverse private).
- It prevents contribution points from accruing (This is an anti-farming measure).
No one has earned points in v/theawakening since this setting was set to 5.
I hope this helps you understand why.
Edit 5:
This post has been stickied again because people still have questions. This will be the last day of this sticky, I promise.
Edit 4:
Read #3 first. So here is my argument: They aren't super web savvy and reddit/voat layout is not that bad of a tool for what they are doing. They were directed to an image board. You all know that's a big jump coming from Reddit. The natural place is here. It's your call Voat always has been and always will be, but maybe we could learn a bit from them, and them us. Think about it.
Edit 3:
I'm just going to say that the back and forth I've had tonight with subscribers of v/theawakening have been the most pleasurable I've had on Voat. (Maybe I have low standards or you're just good people). I'm voting to keep them. Can we Voat? You owe me this one! ;)
Edit 2:
As @MAGAKAG2020Q mentions below and is important to note: This setting can not be instantly switched. It is on a time delay of 48 hours.
Edit:
More useful information here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/2722975
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divine_human ago
i feel frustrated. after making a few comments, i am still not permitted to post.
little did i know that i cant collect CCP in the subs i have come for but need to go around and shake hands in other subs, in order to collect points. makes no sense to me.
btw, i noticed downvote brigades on newcomers which makes it even more frustrating.
from my pov, the entire voting system could go toast. who needs the crap, except for instant gratification junkies and brigades that want to manipulate visibility and opinion?
without voting system and a default on 'show new', shills and bots would have a much harder time and mods wouldnt be so over-worked.
Tzitzimitl ago
this site is designed to help normies become less cringey, so the votes are unfortunately required to maintain their really short attention span; the complications from the morally bankrupt mods coming over is the only thing that makes this ccp system seem nonsensical, and the downvote brigades are to combat karmawhoring
divine_human ago
the downvote brigades are to combat karmawhoringi get the idea behind it. however, downvote brigades also stop good people from posting who are no karmawhores.
its being used to silence folks. this works much better here on voat where you cannot set up your own posts if they downvote you beneath 10 CCP.
the brigades just brought a widely appreciated poster, SerialBrain2, into the minus area so he gets blocked from posting.
yes, his CCP can be brought up again. but WTF?
i have come here for communicating, and accessing and discussing information, not for wasting my time and energy on bothering with my CCP.
personally, i give a fuck about points, this entire instant gratification and punishment system bores me. i opt for authenticity, not for performance that generated aknowledgement points.
it annoyed the fuck out of me on reddit, but at least i didnt get prevented from posting there.
on voat, the entire voting system becomes even more ridiculous. i can perceive the positive intent behind it, but i see it being heavily abused.
the abuse which prevents people from posting even after engaging for days on this board could probably be solved if the downvote option got cancelled. then, a post i like could get an upvote, and a post i dont like would just be ignored.
less opportunity to abuse, less manipulation from those fuckers who want to suppress certain voices.
kneo24 ago
Bottom line, new niggerfaggot. Thise downvote brigades are only used against thise karma whoring. SB2 was karmawhoring. He got what he deserved. Getting the 10ccp isnt hard, and it's not Voats fault the modes over in v/theawakening messed it up. V/GreatAwakening has existed in Voat for 8 months now. Post there if you want to discuss Q. Hell, go to v/calmbeforethestorm.
Upvoats and downvoats don't silence people. You are able to still make comments when in the negatives.
Stoo being faggots.
divine_human ago
V/GreatAwakening has existed in Voat for 8 months now. Post there if you want to discuss Q.thank you. been there and comment there. just pointing out what i perceive as flaws in the system. you dont need to agree with me.
all in all, i like vote much better than reddit, now that i got used to it. open mod logs and honoring free speech is whats missing on reddit.
kneo24 ago
No system will be perfect. If you have a system like the chans, well, you get even more shilling and botting. If you have some sort of hybrid system between this and the chans, you'll have different types of restrictions and different types of things going to be manipulated. Anything will be manipulated. It's just a matter of how.
divine_human ago
after another day on voat, i have a better grip on whats going on here and see the advantages of the voting system. what i dont like is that genuine people get prevented from posting beause of brigading.