I notice that many of you have commented (because you can barely do anything else) asking why you don't have CCP (Comment Contribution Points). So I want to explain because I feel bad that this wasn't brought to your attention earlier.
Voat limits all new accounts for reasons of SPAM. To unlock your account you must earn CCP by commenting and having others upvote your contributions. It is orders more difficult for a botnet to unlock accounts with this requirement in place and is why we use this particular method.
For example: You need 10 CCP to make a submission or send a message. You need 100 CCP to unlock downvoat capabilities.
The reason you don't have any CCP is because the moderator(s) set a particular subverse property that prevents the earning of points in v/theawakening.
This subverse property is called: Minimum CCP required to downvote and when it is set to anything but zero three things happen (which are documented in the subverse settings. This information is also displayed in the sidebar so you can see what subverses have set what values):
- It prevents users who don't have at least X CCP in the subverse itself from downvoating content in that subverse.
- It prevents all submissions from showing up in v/all (basically making the subverse private).
- It prevents contribution points from accruing (This is an anti-farming measure).
No one has earned points in v/theawakening since this setting was set to 5.
I hope this helps you understand why.
Edit 5:
This post has been stickied again because people still have questions. This will be the last day of this sticky, I promise.
Edit 4:
Read #3 first. So here is my argument: They aren't super web savvy and reddit/voat layout is not that bad of a tool for what they are doing. They were directed to an image board. You all know that's a big jump coming from Reddit. The natural place is here. It's your call Voat always has been and always will be, but maybe we could learn a bit from them, and them us. Think about it.
Edit 3:
I'm just going to say that the back and forth I've had tonight with subscribers of v/theawakening have been the most pleasurable I've had on Voat. (Maybe I have low standards or you're just good people). I'm voting to keep them. Can we Voat? You owe me this one! ;)
Edit 2:
As @MAGAKAG2020Q mentions below and is important to note: This setting can not be instantly switched. It is on a time delay of 48 hours.
Edit:
More useful information here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/2722975
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patrat102 ago
How can we have unity with this format. A conversation is started but can't continue as we have to always be running around to get up votes or we feel we need to go help our other Patriots by finding as many as we can to give them up votes. It's like hosting a cocktail party. You have to run around to say hi to each guest but you don't have time to enter into a meaningful conversation. On this board there can be no real meaningful conversations because the threads are over the waterfall so to speak before everyone who wanted to contribute gets a chance to. It is no wonder that the Great Awakeing got banned and voat did not. On reddit GW we were able to get into some good . meaningful conversations and in depth research. Decoding of the Q posts were really superior and was shared patiently with those who did not grasp them right away. That is why the reddit GreatAwakening grew so quickly. Another thing sorely missed is the Q Tuesdays when one day a week patriots were allowed to post pics of the new Q shirts or Q decorated cars and my personal favorite "Q in the Wild" sightings of the Q emblem or qanon sightings that people were posting everywhere or those sighted on cars, walls, etc. We even had several from other countries. I don't mean to put down the voat board but I can see why it is still up---it is not a threat to anyone because the conversations are never allowed to get deep because there is no way to have that conversation while running around trying to get up votes and rescue your other patriots from low up vote score. It's like seeing many people in a river about to go over the falls--you reach out to help one and 2 go pass you. Or you yourself need a little oxygen (upvote) so you run to one for help. There is just no way to participate in a good discussion. We are like rats in a maze all running down different corridors and getting no where. I don't mean to offend anyone just vicing my opinion which will probably be seen by 2 or maybe 3 other patriots before it to goes over the falls into oblivion. I hope Q knows I have tried to stay united but find myself more and more reluctant to come into this meaningless rat maze. Love all you Patriots--reddit and voat. WWG1WGA
Rotteuxx ago
All it takes is a little participation in the community and you're all set. An hour of browsing/v/all/new and commenting will get you there.
Hardly worth making a fuss about imo, besides you Qers should be in a position to appreciate that a community has certain expectations of its members and a little participation shouldn't be asking for too much.
No one will do business with Voat, if it weren't for crypto we wouldn't be here. Our community centric approach (as opposed to regarding mods as higher tier users & requiring participation) makes it a lot harder for shills to establish a strong foothold here, they hate it.
There have been many attempts to push for the enactment of censorship mechanisms on Voat but they've all failed. The worst that can happen is having a limited amount of comments per day on a particular account.
You shouldn't even care about the possibility of offending someone with your opinion, it's yours and you have your reasons for having it. Speak up.
gsoClarke ago
You noted that "our community centric approach...makes it a lot harder for shills to establish a strong foothold here, they hate it," but it's just as hard for serious users to get established, which from my perspective has been daunting. It appears that more than a few established users get some entertainment value out of dropping casual downvotes as they browse just to frustrate newcomers. Still, I drudge along.
Rotteuxx ago
Just comment in any public subs, join a conversation.
Of course liberal points of view will have difficulty getting upvoated since Voat is the safe heaven where most of the rEddit conservative expats found a home in the last 3 years, just try not to sound too gay and have facts & reliable sources on the ready if you get inyo arguments. We're big fans of sourcing claims around here...
Btw, a few established users are shills who are here to paint Voat as a hell hole & discourage users from participating. They can be relentless sometimes.
gsoClarke ago
Thanks for the encouragement.
Rotteuxx ago
No problem, welcome aboard !