Attention Q Reddit / r/GA Folks (whatever)

submitted ago by PuttItOut

I notice that many of you have commented (because you can barely do anything else) asking why you don't have CCP (Comment Contribution Points). So I want to explain because I feel bad that this wasn't brought to your attention earlier.

Voat limits all new accounts for reasons of SPAM. To unlock your account you must earn CCP by commenting and having others upvote your contributions. It is orders more difficult for a botnet to unlock accounts with this requirement in place and is why we use this particular method.

For example: You need 10 CCP to make a submission or send a message. You need 100 CCP to unlock downvoat capabilities.

The reason you don't have any CCP is because the moderator(s) set a particular subverse property that prevents the earning of points in v/theawakening.

This subverse property is called: Minimum CCP required to downvote and when it is set to anything but zero three things happen (which are documented in the subverse settings. This information is also displayed in the sidebar so you can see what subverses have set what values):

  1. It prevents users who don't have at least X CCP in the subverse itself from downvoating content in that subverse.
  2. It prevents all submissions from showing up in v/all (basically making the subverse private).
  3. It prevents contribution points from accruing (This is an anti-farming measure).

No one has earned points in v/theawakening since this setting was set to 5.

I hope this helps you understand why.

Edit 5:

This post has been stickied again because people still have questions. This will be the last day of this sticky, I promise.

Edit 4:

Read #3 first. So here is my argument: They aren't super web savvy and reddit/voat layout is not that bad of a tool for what they are doing. They were directed to an image board. You all know that's a big jump coming from Reddit. The natural place is here. It's your call Voat always has been and always will be, but maybe we could learn a bit from them, and them us. Think about it.

Edit 3:

I'm just going to say that the back and forth I've had tonight with subscribers of v/theawakening have been the most pleasurable I've had on Voat. (Maybe I have low standards or you're just good people). I'm voting to keep them. Can we Voat? You owe me this one! ;)

Edit 2:

As @MAGAKAG2020Q mentions below and is important to note: This setting can not be instantly switched. It is on a time delay of 48 hours.

Edit:

More useful information here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/2722975

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theNakedNecromancer ago

So, this brings up an interesting question:

If the mods remove this subverse property, do all of the upvoats suddenly count for all of its users?

WhiteRonin ago

From a programmer view: I am going to say no.

The interaction would need to be stored with the idea that a subverse would change rules and a function would have to look at all the points and retroactively assign them.

So, unless @Puttitout or @Atko spent the effort to do this, I doubt we have that ability. I highly doubt the effort was made. Also, it would need to thoroughly tested to ensure voats were being assigned properly. Thus, I am lazy, I wouldn’t bother to spend time on this.

Honestly, even if I were paid to do this, I would still argue against it.

dv1155 ago

The source is available if anyone wants to sift through.

https://github.com/voat/voat

heygeorge ago

The existing ones will not. New ones will start to count.

PuttItOut ago

This guy codes

heygeorge ago

Ha!

I can’t wait for the new update as I’m sure it will fix the nuked stickies issue and the smail bug (the one that redirects responses to my eponymous subverse instead of the subverse it’s intended for.)

think- ago

On a side note, the damn distinguish button often doesn't work. Any idea how to fix that?

@PuttItOut @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall

PuttItOut ago

Smart ass reply: Don't use it ;)

I'll look into it.

think- ago

@PuttItOut: To be more precise re the distinguish button bug: It usually works when we press it.

The problem starts when we leave the thread in question - when we go back, the 'M' badge is gone, as is the green colour which highlighted our names.

So we sometimes go back several times, press 'distinguish' again, the 'M' badge and the green colour show each time after we have used the button, but somehow it doesn't stick. :-/

PuttItOut ago

That is because of cache. I think comment trees are cached for 5-10 minutes

think- ago

?

But in cases when the green colour and the M badge disappear, they won't show again later (even hours later).

PuttItOut ago

I consider this a bug, it's just a low priority bug, but I still need to fix this, so don't think I'm not taking it as such.

Say you D a comment. Come back in a few minutes or refresh and see it's not D'ed. So you click D again. Well now it's removed instead of added.

Since it was saved as a D to the database after the first click, the second click will remove the D from it.

The bug here is that that particular comment is not updated in cache to reflect the D. Instead you need to wait until the comments themselves are reloaded and it will be pulled back with a D.

Does that make sense?

TL;DR: Only click it once. It's a cache thing. I'll fix it soon. ;)

think- ago

Ok, thanks very much! :-)

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock @Crensch: please see parent.

think- ago

Smart ass reply: Don't use it ;)

LOL

I'll look into it.

That would be terrific!! Thank you!! :-) :-) Saying this on behalf of all v/pizzagate mods!

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock @Crensch @heygeorge

heygeorge ago

Nice moves! I like that Puttsy had a very similar initial response to mine. It really is the easiest fix!

heygeorge ago

I haven’t heard of that one. Who uses the distinguish button anyway?

think- ago

Who uses the distinguish button anyway?

LOL - we should make you a mod after all, then you'd know..... ;-) We are almost getting mad because it's not fucking working every second time we want to use it.

Any ideas how to fix that issue would be highly appreciated.

@PuttItOut @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock

heygeorge ago

we should make you a mod after all, then you'd know.

No thank you, I am attacked frequently enough as it is! :D

We could add ‘moderator’ tags to y’all in the CSS, if you wanted to go that route. (And if you haven’t already done so; I haven’t really been paying attention.)

think- ago

No thank you, I am attacked frequently enough as it is! :D

Haha.

We could add ‘moderator’ tags to y’all in the CSS, if you wanted to go that route. (And if you haven’t already done so; I haven’t really been paying attention.)

Well....we've discussed this, and tried it for two days, but since some mods didn't like it (including myself), we abandoned the idea in the end.

But Putt said that he would look into it, so I'm confident we might see the issue getting fixed now. :-)

heygeorge ago

discussed this, and tried it for two days

I see; that’s why I was confused. I thought you had them, but then when they were gone I again thought that maybe I was in a different subverse and just confused.

Thank you for reading my pointless anecdote.

think- ago

Thank you for reading my pointless anecdote.

Anytime. ;-)

inthemimeofnick ago

yo whata bout ya/ whadda bout da boooooooty?

heygeorge ago

Yes

polwarrior1030 ago

Nobody is on that shit anymore anyways. Everyone moved to the Q board on VoiceAnything.com

https://voiceanything.com/forums/17/Qanon

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

this is an excellent idea, spread the community out further that surely won't divide them

VisKyns ago

uh... what?

heygeorge ago

Let me explain: @polwarrior1030 is a spamming feggit.

theoldones ago

if they remove it, the rest of the site downvotes EVERYTHING in that subverse to hades itself because their reputation is as plain as day

Mumbleberry ago

We can start now, the CCp req. has been lifted.

Goathole ago

it's like I'm licking my lips as you say it.

Ina_Pickle ago

We generally do not behave that way. The site has been provoked though so who knows.

theoldones ago

m8, we ALWAYS downvote shit we know to be hostile. what fucking planet have you been living on?

Ina_Pickle ago

Hostile stuff yes. We don't normally appreciate downvoat brigading though.

These people are fresh from Reddit where downvote brigading is a daily occurrence.

Someone posts wrong think? Instant downvote brigade.

Don't want them to jump to the assumption that we do the same thing here for stupid crap.

theoldones ago

its not the fucking brigade, its that THE ENEMY WILL BE REMOVED

fuck your "optics" concern

Ina_Pickle ago

Downvoat brigading is downvoat brigading.

It's like pointing a gun at someone who is trying to rob you versus pointing a gun at the store clerk you are trying to rob.

Intent is different, but it is still a fucking gun.

Don't be such a faggot.

theoldones ago

FUCK YOUR (((OPTICS))). WE DONT CARE WHAT WE LOOK LIKE TO OUTSIDERS

Ina_Pickle ago

You are missing the damn point entirely. Everyone keeps screaming at the new people to integrate, but few of you faggots are taking the time to show them the ropes. It's not about how we look. It's about explaining to them that what they're used to on Reddit does not work the same way here.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

the beatings must continue until moral improves, if anything I say we need to hit them harder

CrustyBeaver52 ago

The strong will survive it.

kneo24 ago

but few of you faggots are taking the time to show them the ropes.

I disagree. All I see are their (((leaders))) corralling them around so that those that are trying to help can't. I have seen plenty of Goats explain this very sticky to those guys. Their mods knew about the restrictions on the first day, and never communicated it back to the community quickly.

Kellygirl13 ago

Thanks Ina ... we appreciate it! Trying to learn our way around as quickly as possible.

theoldones ago

i'm not missing a single iota of the point.

action is the best explanation, you fucking pussy. now sit down so that the rest of who have balls can DO and not merely TALK

Ina_Pickle ago

Oh go fuck right off. Unless this is your alt, you are practically a newfag yourself.

theoldones ago

im sure all those EU girls who got raped tried very hard to "explain" why it wouldnt be OK

Ina_Pickle ago

Not even remotely the same. The people here now aren't the mods. They are the.newbies who will probably stick around. You know damn well you don't want them acting like they are still on reddit.

Or maybe not because the minute someone disgreed with you, you started downvoting like a little Reddit fag. Fucking hypocrite. You no longer have the right to call these new people out.

theoldones ago

the head man, the retinue, same thing.

keep talking to me if you so wish, but i wont respond because i refuse to indulge your (((optics))) concern when you dont even have the decency to call what it is

go ahead, tell me why it would be bad to do this action.

Pizzalurker15 ago

Everything will return to normal soon, Q people respect voat and goats and there will be a truce, just relax you are in a safe space now.

Ina_Pickle ago

Yo. Someone on that sub called us Natives and suggested handing out smallpox blankets. My space does not feel so safe.

BillieLynne ago

Voat is the site, but what is the goat?

fuckmyreddit ago

We are the goats. If you stick around, you'll be a goat too. You just decide you're a goat one day, maybe today.

Don't be afraid to ask questions. Some of the goats around here have no manners. Myself included. However, most of us will help you if you're sincere.

The problem is that some people in forums like this are paid provocateurs who work for the bigwigs who want to destroy our country. Well, that's one of the problems. A lot of the undercurrents here are related to people trying to figure out who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. Don't freak. The bad guys can't do much. They just try to hijack the conversation or tell lies for various reasons. You can usually tell who the jerkheads are after a while, but not always.

I am glad you're here. So many people know there's something wrong with our country, but people who are open minded and curious will be the only ones to get an inkling of what is wrong with the USA, the UK, the Western World, etc. You are old enough to have seen the changes to our countries, as am I. To me, the changes seem dramatic, and I hope there is some way to revert back to how things were many decades ago.

Pizzalurker15 ago

The goat is the reddit alien. They dont hate evrything about reddit. This is a clone of reddit

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

go the fuck back, you faggot

Ina_Pickle ago

Voat's mascot is a cartoon Goat.

https://imgoat.com/uploads/7693cfc748/22727.jpeg

theoldones ago

"you are in a safe space now."

GET THE FUCK OUT RIGHT NOW YOU SERPENT TONGUED FUCKFACE.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Q people respect voat and goats

by their behavior the ones recently here from reddit clearly do not

Sustanence ago

Shit.

I just snorted water out my nose.

I definitely feel safe!!!!!!

KosherHiveKicker ago

They will reap what they have sown.

Had their moderators, and a large portion of their fellow Q's not intentionally shit on Voat's core value then you would have been welcomed just like /v/milliondollarextreme and /v/greatawakening.