I notice that many of you have commented (because you can barely do anything else) asking why you don't have CCP (Comment Contribution Points). So I want to explain because I feel bad that this wasn't brought to your attention earlier.
Voat limits all new accounts for reasons of SPAM. To unlock your account you must earn CCP by commenting and having others upvote your contributions. It is orders more difficult for a botnet to unlock accounts with this requirement in place and is why we use this particular method.
For example: You need 10 CCP to make a submission or send a message. You need 100 CCP to unlock downvoat capabilities.
The reason you don't have any CCP is because the moderator(s) set a particular subverse property that prevents the earning of points in v/theawakening.
This subverse property is called: Minimum CCP required to downvote and when it is set to anything but zero three things happen (which are documented in the subverse settings. This information is also displayed in the sidebar so you can see what subverses have set what values):
- It prevents users who don't have at least X CCP in the subverse itself from downvoating content in that subverse.
- It prevents all submissions from showing up in v/all (basically making the subverse private).
- It prevents contribution points from accruing (This is an anti-farming measure).
No one has earned points in v/theawakening since this setting was set to 5.
I hope this helps you understand why.
Edit 5:
This post has been stickied again because people still have questions. This will be the last day of this sticky, I promise.
Edit 4:
Read #3 first. So here is my argument: They aren't super web savvy and reddit/voat layout is not that bad of a tool for what they are doing. They were directed to an image board. You all know that's a big jump coming from Reddit. The natural place is here. It's your call Voat always has been and always will be, but maybe we could learn a bit from them, and them us. Think about it.
Edit 3:
I'm just going to say that the back and forth I've had tonight with subscribers of v/theawakening have been the most pleasurable I've had on Voat. (Maybe I have low standards or you're just good people). I'm voting to keep them. Can we Voat? You owe me this one! ;)
Edit 2:
As @MAGAKAG2020Q mentions below and is important to note: This setting can not be instantly switched. It is on a time delay of 48 hours.
Edit:
More useful information here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/2722975
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CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago
Subverses should be modded according to the guidelines laid out in v/whatever. Mods should only serve as content janitors and CSS decorators. No modgoat should ever be allowed to silence or censor a voatgoat.
Have your say.
Ina_Pickle ago
That wouldn't work for niche subs like the BanHammers though.
NotHereForPizza ago
While I can sense the utility in silencing known division artists, spammers, and the likes, I've gotta appreciate Voat's relentless insistence that no one be silenced.
Unfortunately, there are times in which these sorts of things are necessary. From my position, at least, v/theawakening is one of these situations. I mean, look WHO they were banning in the beginning - all of the typical offenders. The anons running the moderation know better (some because I've filled them in, others because they're just anons and they're not fucking stupid). This is why you've seen posts filling the front page (often from the same accounts) denouncing the phenomenon, seemingly to collect more noteriety with the newfags, but mostly to farm more points out of the migration (they do this EVERY TIME new waves come in - see my previous posts exposing @Crensch LITERALLY DOING THIS).
Even fullchan will ban niggers that just shill for days. See, Voat's issue is that it is more occupied by normies. As a result, they have a difficult time recognizing shills. In the event Voat becomes more experienced with shills and these sorts of environments, there will likely be a noticeable change in the desire to shame or ban known shills. Frankly, they get pretty easy to spot.
What you guys seem to be missing most about this, however, is that all of these people have been directed here from another place. We like to think of you guys as our DMZ (trust me, it works). Therefore, the issue is more that the transition to this new home brought with it some niggers. Also, the new direction activated sleeper accounts here, as well as inspire some of the big personalities to go cause a ruckus in this new place to the point that they were banned/censored, all so they could screenshot it and gain more points. These things SHOULD be more obvious to you guys, but I'm not really seeing any catch on. Again, this happens during each migration.
Any questions, just ask.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
How is the weather in Tel Aviv?
AmaleksHairyAss ago
Did the lobotomy hurt?
heygeorge ago
How does it feel to be continually surrounded by idiots?
NotHereForPizza ago
shrink ago
I agree. I think this should be a site-wide rule whose egregious violation would result in the removal of the offending moderator(s). It shouldn't simply be a "subverse mods can run the place however they wish" method, because if every mod did that, and every mod was reddit-tier "i control everything" style, then Voat wouldn't be Voat. It'd be nothing but an exact copy of reddit.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
just give users a tool to remove mods, a way to vote them out or something, users need more power and mods need limited power, and putt is too busy for this kinda shit
Goathole ago
I thought we were doing that after T_D decided they didn't want to hang out with us anymore? There was a whole plan in place to implement.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
idk ask one of the goats working on code
shrink ago
Something along those lines would be a great idea, but that opens up a can of worms when you're trying to determine what's genuinely a grassroots effort to boot a mod, versus an astroturf of shills brigading the sysem in the effort to install one of their own. It may even come down to a split in the userbase, wherein there actually aren't any shills, but each side is convinced the others are saboteurs and shilly subversives trying to fuck over the board for their agenda.
It's a good concept that would be great if it worked ideally, but i've seen messy situations arise from them.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
the specifics are arbitrary voting is only an example, I maintain that uses should be giving more power and mods should be given more limits