Copying my comment from this thread
Voat was down for quite a while with no explanation, and any attempt to discuss the outage was actively censored on other sites.
Mysteriously, Atko returns to save the day with no other explanation than he "isolated the issue" and got the site back up. Any questions as to the specific nature of the issue went completely unanswered, and the majority of posts and comments are praising Atko without question.
To top it off, Putt just happened to disappear, and again, no comments seem to really dig into the reasoning behind his disappearance despite his clear dedication to Voat in the past. You'd figure the guy would have said something beforehand, or commented now that it's back up?
I might be too skeptical, but from what I have to work with I can't rule out that there is something sinister going on... Is this the real Atko? Has Voat been maliciously attacked? Taken over? Monitored? I sure as fuck hope not, but without any explanation I can't be sure.
karenrussell63 ago
see /v/whatever/2510570
0100100-101010101010 ago
Plot twist: Voat.co is a subsidiary of Reddit
prairie ago
Everything digital is being monitored/compromised.
chags ago
ITT, samefagging skyrockets and shilling jumps the shark.
ohnoitsaninja ago
It's going to come down to this, unfortunately.
What would the userbase of voat do if these questions are never answered?
We may be loud about it now, but unfortunately I forsee nothing changing and everyone doing the "keep calm and carry on" routine. Feels bad man.
common_sense ago
The canary has not been edited for 4 months.
Womb_Raider ago
I've been concerned for a while :(
solvire ago
I"m pretty close to leaving
I'd rather pay for good service than get shit for free.
NotHereForPizza ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2509207
Q himself addressed us. Ask for proof and I'll give it to you.
lemon11 ago
17 days ago, actually. If we assume he was around passively a few days after that, we could still be within a fortnight's holiday away from Voat where the back end never went down and may not have set up alerts.
lord_poseidon ago
maybe he got sick of chaperoning an online nazi forum out-of-pocket
:thinking:
PrettyBigDouche ago
Eat a bag of dicks.
PrettyBigDouche ago
A good example of your lack of logic. How the fuck am I defending those who attacked voat? I'm not and nowhere did I even hint that I was.
You're so stupid, it hurts. You sound like a low IQ nigger.
GoodbyeFreeSpeach ago
Gotta agree, don't listen to 9-11.
PrettyBigDouche ago
No, your credibility is shot. Nobody who's been around here for even a couple of months listens to you dickwad.
kneo24 ago
Has anyone considered that Putt is burnt out or just fighting depression? People in either of those states can and will fuck off from projects like this with little to no warning.
littul_kitton ago
AIs don't get depressed. Putt probably just crashed and needs a reboot.
Caveman_in_a_suit ago
Did you just reply to a SG alt?
derkataIog ago
i am not OP - sanegoatiswear.
if you ever want to prove it's me, just PM me on my main at @sanegoatiswear. i was, for 2 years, one single account. but since @puttitout allowed the paid shills to brigade my account 20,000 points, i've been restricted to 10 posts/comments per 24 hours - ie, not free speech at all. so i had to create alts to continue talking "freely" on voat.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I think I'm close friends with one of your alts :). The fire that burns within you is correct on this.
derkataIog ago
hey @TheUnnamedPlayer you're starting to sound like me, @sanegoatiswear. if you want to go down the rabbit hole, read all the megaposts on my profile page (top and bottom most comments and posts, from when the admins disappeared to the massive shill onslaught assaulting, harassing, and defaming anyone speaking up about the shill takeover of voat.)
Cum_control ago
Atko is not atko putt is not putt. They have always been screennames on a computer “atko” and “putt” are no more than characters, actors can be replaced but the characters will always remain. Fuck put fuck atko and fuck what is now voat, “(((THEY)))” have destroyed this beautiful place
dontforgetaboutevil ago
I think the story Atko tells makes sense. Maybe Put just quit. God knows we are an ungrateful, pushy and cantankerous group of people.
My concern is that free speech was dead for a little while. Voat is the only place it exists. Freespeech is an endangered species and Voat.co is its last acceptable ecosystem.
hafen ago
adhdferret ago
What does it matter? Things change and by previous admin shutouts it seems they don't want or need our concern. Nothing bad really just how they or him want it.
common_sense ago
If something nefarious happened, why would they compromise Atko's account and leave everything in mystery when they could have used Putt's account and said something like "sorry I was on vacation" or something. It just doesn't add up.
I'm guessing Putt is either on vacation without internet or has some personal stuff happening in his life (hospital, death of family member, etc.)
MrShill ago
Yeah, it would be easy to make up any numbers of stories to quell the native goats. That this hasn't been forthcoming suggests to me it's personal or financial issues behind this. Second option is that it has been taken over and it's part of a strategy to make users paranoid. ..not sure to what end, besides we are already fucking paranoid
Illaskthequestion ago
The canary hasn’t been updated and he could have a gag order. No one seems to remember the canary
common_sense ago
Oh, shit. I completely forgot about the canary.
Wahaha ago
People always forget about that. https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
8_billion_eaters ago
'Atko' restored VOAT. How much more can you ask?
Illaskthequestion ago
Is the canary dead is a good question to ask
kneo24 ago
It's a dumb question to ask right now, you retard. Atko is not the owner of Voat anymore. He has nothing to do with the legal issues. People asking for a canary update right now are missing that point entirely.
Illaskthequestion ago
If alko has no input (not owner) then how did he fix the site. Use that fucking rock of a brain bitch
kneo24 ago
The easy answer is that access was never removed when he handed it over to Putt.
PrettyBigDouche ago
Nobody listens to you mang.
Humanacide ago
Damn you people need some help. I have been reading your crying and whining about how terrible this outage was. Do any of you fuckers have a life?
danielktdoran ago
I smell a Law Enforcement take over, just how they did Silk Road and Lulzsec. Officer if you are reading this: free speech is not a crime.
ProgNaziGator ago
The permanent beuracracy aka deep state like any organization, has always been sociopathic to it's own needs. Obama took it being weaponized and agenda driven to the next level. But post Obama it has become it's own semi paranoid beast drunk on its own power and itching to floor it for the first time.
This genie does not go back in the bottle without Extreme purges. Yes from here on out we need to get bg used to being very careful about having proven CIA and Mossad style tactics used against us.
Illaskthequestion ago
Long time lurker first time posting... is the canary dead???
Marou ago
I doubt it, but I worry about @PuttItOut being in some sort of trouble.
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png
Illaskthequestion ago
Omg love that comic. Seriously I’m making that my desktop wallpaper. Thanks
IGiveZeroFucks ago
So, he just happened to get into a fatal car accident or something at the exact same time that Voat was knocked offline? Seems fucky.
derkataIog ago
ok let's try to make this exhaustive:
puttitout stopped taking ad money and donations
by peaceseeker's account, voat ran out of money 5 months ago
puttitout refuses to be anywhere near transparent not just about finances, but about everything voat
puttitout has ignored all community requests for everything, including
puttitout hasn't done subverse transfer requests for over a year
puttitout openly lied to the userbase ('i'm gonna explain about the vote manipulation bans, i swear', 'sanegoat is a group of people and i'm banning all of them except sanegoat', 'i'm justin chastain' for the past 1.5 years.. and more)
puttitout banned 400+ users simply for upvoating
puttitout refused to ban a single user that participated in a 20,000 point downvoat brigade on me, sanegoat
puttitout allowed the code merges from @fuzzywords an openly transvestite openly autistic openly SJW freak that included reddit-teir soft censorship of all users (post time limits, post amount limits, comment time limits; -ccp and -scp censorship restrictions including but not limited to 10 posts/comments per 24 hours, requiring google captcha and tracking for all posting and starting of PMs...)
he killed chat because of SBBH manufactured drama
made it so voat is inaccessible beyond page 19 (except, i believe, they changed that to everything except your own comments to p99?)
has allowed the paid shills that took over to harass most long-term original users off of the site.
for all we know, @puttitout isn't justin chastain, but is an account run by the paid shills that took over. as, apparently is @atko as well.
their silence regarding these allegations of hostile takeover, and on literally every single topic listed above,
speaks far more volumes than i did in my voat heyday.
sincerely,
sanegoat i fucking swear.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Hell yeah mang
ruck_feddit ago
Get your new voat together and make sure we hear about it.
derkataIog ago
will do!
goatboy ago
Holy Shit. SG.
LlamaMan ago
He could be on holiday, he could be in hospital, he could be dead. Just because the site went down doesn't mean that he disappeared at the exact same time. He could have been gone for weeks before the site went down.
dingleberries ago
I hate to break it to you, but the entire corporate/government internet is something sinister going on. DIY, open source, p2p meshnets or FTW!
CannedDogSpam ago
Some of us really tried to step up and help in the beginning. Putt wanted help, Atko could care less.
I think Putt thought it was going to be easier to find funding for a replacement platform compared to Eddit. Unfortunately, the "free speech" aspect of the site is off-putting in today's PC climate. After going through funding talks, dealing with other issues, platform and code fixes, etc - putt may have just literally emailed Atko and said "fuck this shit, I'm done".
I've also poked around, I'm not seeing anything serious happening to Putt. I'm not finding any jail photos or news articles. I'm all for taking vacations where I'm out in the middle of nowhere, but I typically have people that back me up (maybe thats why Atko checked?). The site is serious now where there needs to be some sort of staffing. It's not just a one-man volunteer show (assuming he wasn't pulling a check since we've literally had no financial info) with dev volunteers.
Even I thought about options during the outage and watched Riot and Discord while the stupidity happened within those rooms. It was interesting to watch the convo turn from just trying to get something temporary up devolve into paying for things all the way down to creating new platforms using technology that doesn't exist on a site yet.
Lots to think about.
InflationSlave ago
If money was Putt's problem, he would have reopened bitcoin donations and bitcoin ad purchases.
Chiefpacman ago
It does seem like it was some sort of error on our end. Seeing as atko was able to fix it after finding it in about a half hour. God bless that goat.
Putt doesn’t really disappear; as much as he very rarely appears at all. It’s obviously become a serious problem. We need an admin who has a little bit more drive/energy for this place. A least a second admin, or a small team with access to contact him via email?
But I’m not saying there wasn’t something that happened. I don’t know, and am suspicious.
I_Love_Hentai ago
The part about any info on the situation being censored everywhere tells me there's fuckery going on.
tzitzit ago
Was Voat just sold?
Firinmahlazer ago
We, as a community, need to have a really serious discussion about what to do in the event this place goes down permanently. I was legitimately concerned over the last two days that this place was toast and I'll be god damned if I'm going to the chans.
SupermanReborn ago
I like that the chans exist but I don't like going there. Lots of Voats went there and also to phuks.co which is milder Voat
Its_over_9000 ago
I've heard Phuks will ban you though.
SupermanReborn ago
That's gay
FreeBreivik ago
I think we may need to consider what happens if Putt doesn't come back and Atko isn't available when the server bills are due... Voat could be gone for good this time next month.
FuggBenis ago
This has always been a limited hangout to me, but yeah, very fishy indeed. Putt better come to us with a great all-encompassing reason why this all happened, and why he wasn't here, and do this as soon as possible. If it takes a week to hear from him, it'd be very hard for us goats to believe him.
I don't necessarily care if it's a honeypot or not. If you're not already on some list somewhere, you haven't memed enough.
IGiveZeroFucks ago
He was arrested for banging tranny prostitutes. He wasted his only call on his mom who said, "Maybe some time in jail would be good for you. You need to get your heart right with Jesus."
Skeeterdo ago
Agreed. Something fucky is going on here. I'm glad voat is back but at what cost? The disappearance of putt and lack of input is worry some.
Illaskthequestion ago
I agree. I can’t post due to new account but I haven’t seen anyone mention the canary
Cum_control ago
Yea and sangoat was just so evil he reminded us about that shit madddd! If it wasnt for sanegoats spam of the canary no one on here would even know what the fuck that is.
Illaskthequestion ago
I missed sanegoat post. The canary uses to be sticky at top. That shits been missing and long time users don’t seem to care
Cum_control ago
It became sticky after sanegoat got enough people asking questions but was the same reason I believe he was shunned(he spammed the fuck out of voat and was a bit obnoxious but this is a place for free speech at least I thought) he raised very valid points but spammed it everywhere not the best tactic but needless to say most of the community knew who that crazy fucker was
TheBuddha ago
Putt was abducted by (((aliens))).
Annelise ago
Why do so many people assume that putt has no personal life and has guaranteed internet access 24/7?
Also, how can anyone assume that any online forum is not subject to keyword spidering?
Come on, grow up.
TheUnnamedPlayer ago
I doubt anyone believes he is tied to Voat 24/7 and has no personal life, but having no input from him after an extensive outage I find unlikely. He's always been here to answer questions with similar outages in the past.
Also, when was the last time you didn't have internet access for some time? It's possible he didn't, but it's unfair to rule out any wrongdoing.
Annelise ago
Missed one: the last time my phone service was suspended I had no access for 6 weeks.
Annelise ago
It is more unfair to assume he isn't in the hospital or off visiting family or snorkeling in the Seycheles.
Don't generate consipracy rumors over a few days of downtime. For all we know, atko's intervention was sparked by an email/phone call from putt.
Decent internet access is not universal.
TheUnnamedPlayer ago
That's a reasonable assumption, and I never ruled it out. Honestly it's the more likely situation for Putt.
However, Atko mentioned in his post that he hasn't heard from Putt, and failed to answer any questions regarding the outage.
I'm not disagreeing that Putt may just be gone for a while, but I still want to highlight some concerns and hopefully have the addressed by Atko or Putt. Doesn't hurt to be a skeptic.
Annelise ago
:-)
SeanBox ago
atko said he hadn't heard from putt tho
Annelise ago
Ah, I missed that. Good catch
TestForScience ago
The things I’ve read said that Put takes fairly normal/usual breaks from the site - he has a full time job as well as running this place and he doesn’t want to get completely burnt out on it.
This is something I’ve read he does multiple times before this outtage. I believe he’s even said it himself a couple times.
But I feel ya. There’s no harm in being skeptical. Maybe try running Ghostery or some other extension to see if there’s any new trackers on the site - that would be a good indicator as to whether or not something nefarious was added.
RoBatten ago
Privacy Badger detects zero trackers . . .
TestForScience ago
Try logging out and back in again - see if it sends out a “call home,” somewhere.
Of course, you’d want to run it for like a month anyways, if there was something added, this place was being shutdown by some other entity, and all conversation about it was being effectively suppressed on a few other sites, then I doubt they’d be brazen enough to turn all of their “fuck-up-Voat,” switches on at once.
This place has had so many weird outtages that it just doesn’t seem that crazy, to me, that one happened while Put was taking a hiatus - but like I said, there’s no harm in being skeptical and checking things out for yourself.
TZC ago
You're not being too skeptical, These are all valid, serious questions regarding the future of the site, and the safety of it's users.
I want to know what the fuck happened just as much as you do. Great Job to Atko for getting the site back up again, Seriously, But right now I'm not sure if this is the work of Atko, or (((Atko))).
Don't let this question die.
Cum_control ago
(((Atko)))) has always been (((atko))) this is all going exactly to plan for them and their “side project”
tendiesonfloor ago
If this place wasn't a honeypot before, it sure as fuck is now.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I've been thinking this for a while now but I already know that (((they))) know who and where I am. This isn't the first time I've tangled with these mothafuckers. I've been AtomicPunk all over the net and have pissed in their cheerios many times.
InflationSlave ago
CloudFlare is a direct feed to the NSA, so why would you care about Putt and Atko possibly being rubber hosed into operating the site from that context?
Rotteuxx ago
Yet here you are !
obvious-throwaway- ago
That's ok, because like everyone else here, every single comment or submission I've made here was simply an experiment in free speech to test whether or not this vital constitutional, and human, right of freedom to express uncomfortable or opposing opinions still exists.
It's important for the future of the human race to know that freedom and personal liberty are still alive and there will always be those of us willing to make the ultimate sacrifice of our own liberty and freedom to fight for the liberty and freedom of future generations. So even though a great doxxing of freedom lovers will soon happen, and they will strip us of everything we hold dear, we'll be the canary in the coal mine showing the fate of all if we allow freedom and liberty to die.
Let's use this recent Voat scare to wake us up to the fact that we must do more than shit post alternate options, but come together collectively to counter those trying to destroy freedom. We need to stop sending our money every month to Netflix, Hulu, sattelite, HBO, Starbucks and movie theaters and create an organization that funds freedom.
We need a domain register, hosting facilities, radio/TV stations, and even ISP's. We need our own operating systems and web browsers. Collectively, we have the power to change the current path to destruction. We must fight not just for our future but for future generations
PrettyBigDouche ago
Any place that names the jew is going to be watched very carefully by...(((them))). So voat was, is and always will be a honeypot. Who gives a fuck anyway. We're just saying the way things are. If TPTB don't like that, fuck em.
InflationSlave ago
Americans are mostly safe. It's the New Caliphate (old Europe, Canada, etc.) users that have to be concerned about being sent to their deaths in muslim and nigger filled prisons for offending someone on the internet.
PrettyBigDouche ago
America will fall next. It's already happening. The Kalegri plan in full swing.
danielktdoran ago
Exactly. Fire up your tor client connect visa public WiFi and wait out the end result with some popcorn.
To my knowledge nothing illegal has ever happened on this site, every real goat is pro-U.S.A., pro constitution, and anti criminal. We doxx pedos and kick them off the platform.
IGiveZeroFucks ago
Everything you post online is already tracked and saved and they know your real identity. They don't need this site to gather data. Hello, government assholes!
Conspirator001 ago
Hello.
whereisthemountain ago
This. Literally any data pushed through ISP's is logged and stored in a database somewhere.
Deezle ago
SPECTRE and MELTDOWN are just the ones that I know about and I am basically retarded. To me its all bugged and the only way to escape is to leave this world. Welcome to the prison planet. OPSEC is a fallacy.
lopan ago
switch to AMD for now
Deezle ago
What if the motherboard your AMD is sitting on has a spare micro or two that have access to the bus (i2c or spi) that your Ethernet controller is on? Man in the middle at point of origination. I couldn't do it myself but if a moron like me can think of it, I'm sure any one of the 1000s of embedded guys working for (((them))) can figure it out. Same with your phone, TV, Refrigerator, Car, Alexa, or anything else with a internet connection...IoT will bring about the NWO...
I am not prone to suicide, btw...lol...
lopan ago
No, you got me. You should throw all your devices away now!
Deezle ago
I embrace the idea that some AI is forced to watch me type "nigger" on voat, or watch over my shoulder as I consume some BBW trap porn while I take a dump.
solvire ago
U needs Jesus.
Deezle ago
Me and the J-man are tight. It was a joke.
PrettyBigDouche ago
That'll save you, lol.
lopan ago
Who said anything about saving, Intel has the bigger fuck up currently. Unless you're saying paper and pencil is the way of the future?
Dumb fuck
PrettyBigDouche ago
Why would you switch to AMD for now otherwise? And I'm the dumbfuck? Just admit you made a really stupid post and now are trying to cover your ass. Fuck off and eat a bag of shit.
swastikawaii ago
The whole internet is a honeypot, really.
solvire ago
Obviously the DoD wanted to give us open communication out of the kindness of their hearts.
swastikawaii ago
Yes and they gave us Facebook because they wanted us to form meaningful connections with one another.
solvire ago
Sometimes I believe that 90% of facebook are DoD:CIA bots talking to each other. And my friends who use it are too stupid to realize they are in a crowd of bots looking for the opportunity to turn them into human batteries.
Schreiber ago
^this is the more accurate statement.
derkataIog ago
every time i see your account name i shudder a little and see that fuck frenching his kids. great shit man. what words can do!
BentAxel ago
I have a case of the dumb. Can you elaborate? Saying the site is controlled by the deep state or am I reading too much into it?
vonclausewitz ago
I'm not the same guy, but what I suspect they are implying is that voat is used to identify people with right wing or racist ideas. Now, so long as the right is essentially impotent (politically), the government doesn't care what people post - they just want to collect the info. However, if people started being violent (you know, sort of like how the left is violent already) then the government could use that info to identify leaders and arrest them. Arrest them for what? LOL, there are so many laws, it's 100% guaranteed that they could put you in jail if they wanted to.
There's no proof of this, and the argument is very weak. Atko didn't provide a technical explanation for the outage? That makes you suspicious? As if (a) the FBI needs to take the site down for days in order to install monitoring software and (b) as if they couldn't invent a plausible excuse for the outage?? Is that really what you believe?
...however, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not being followed.
tippyc ago
Yeah that's what he is saying. There's a contingent of users who think that has been the case since shortly after Putt originally took it over from Atko.
dingleberries ago
Look into the origins and structure of the (((internet))) and you'll answer your own questions. Look into p2p meshnet over diy devices and you'll find a solution if you're not to lazy to proactively develop your own secure method of communication. The only rights and freedoms we have are those that we use our skills to protect.
PrettyBigDouche ago
The Internet was developed as a command and control network.
dingleberries ago
yup.
auggs ago
Thats my approach as well.
Spaceballs-1 ago
https://kek.gg/i/5p94Yh.jpeg
JoeKerr ago
sigh, unzip
Rellik88 ago
Hi, NSA!
tendiesonfloor ago
If I send you a picture of my dog's butthole with the date and time written next to it will you believe I'm not a cop?
PrettyBigDouche ago
Nobody cares if you are a cop. You take massive, smelly dumps just like everyone else.
Wahaha ago
You mean your police dog?
Reddit_traitor ago
My only wild thought is putt just bailed and atko just hit power button on the server and said I fixed it and I don't know where put is as he reads the email from put that only says I quit.
But maybe we will find the real answer soon™