Dear Putt,
I'm know I'm probably not your favourite goat, but I don't take it personally. The anon psyop against me ~6 days ago may or may not have been correct in naming me one of the key people to whom you were addressing with the comments in your sticky, but I'll assume at the very least I wasn't absent from the list.
I like you either way, Putt, and honestly cannot thank you enough for providing Voat to us for as long as you have; hell, I wouldn't blame you if you crashed the whole thing right now and moved on with your life. You're a good dude for what you've done already, and it sucks to think that I've (probably) given you headaches and work you didn't deserve.
I know it's going to sound/look like I'm doing this as some form of mockery or with some undertone of derision, and I can't really seem to find a way to avoid appearing that way, despite not actually meaning it; hopefully this disclaimer will help you not take it that way.
I've been wracking my brain for the past week or so, in an attempt to understand exactly what it is you don't want us to do to newcomers. I've come up with a few possibilities, and would like clarification:
1) Don't direct them to the colloquially-known Voat introduction sticky that outlines the general trends and ideas of Voat.
2) Don't be racist in front of them.
3) Don't name the Jew.
4) Don't downvote them for asking for upvotes.
5) Don't speak out against their moderators' deletions and bannings.
6) Don't downvote their crappy/degenerate/etc. submissions.
7) Don't post/comment on their subs/content.
8) Don't link them to redpills, or try to redpill them.
9) Don't be honest with them when they admit something about themselves personally that I find disgusting/degenerate/etc.
I can't think of anything else that I do, or that anyone else does, and I cannot think of anything else that people have actually complained about, either here or the other site, after some group gets repelled. We're "Nazis" and "hateful" and "racist" is what's written over there; "4chan turned up to 11" was one of my personal favourites.
I'm more than happy to have some kind of gentleman's agreement NOT to do whichever of these you think is the problem for some period of time you decide. It's your house, and if you perceive that I'm proverbially shitting on your carpet, I'd rather you pointed me in the direction of the loo.
Thanks again, Putt, for everything you do for this website. I hope it gets easier and more financially viable, if that is, indeed, your goal.
-C
@Puttitout
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adhdferret ago
Wow the sliding of votes here is obvious.
Here is what you need to remember @Crensch these people that keep trying new ways to slide the following will never be of a threat. Here is why.
They are confined to places like this and other social media. They will never be of actual impact on real world. Sure let's say they get people thinking and pollute their minds, but that is ALL they will ever be....a whisper in weaker minds.
People in general will never believe that words on a screen or in print are of meaningful substance. It is just something they will experience it and reality is subjective depending on the person.
Like me for example. I wasn't such a no holds bar racist till I moved to the north east. I thought that niggers are the way they are because of poverty or outside influence. It was isolated to economic development.
Then I got here and holy fuck my eyes were opened. I am not the type to keep my ideals to myself because fuck that. What I am saying is that my reality was different and I changed my view once i experienced it for myself.
I am no special circumstance either. This is just how people learn. Voat is being washed out because this is how these people gain influence and it is all they know....how to be fake as hell. They pretend to care about triggering topics, but really their allegiance is subject to change....it is because they are paid to be this way.
You, me, and many others have the views we do because we are this way. We name the kikes, and force people to see that niggers are niggers. They hate the way we are because we can't be shifted to group think and for now the majority of voat sees it our way.
They need to make an enemy like they do on Reddit. They have to force people to challenge their ideals of a specific user. They tried with me for over a year and never accomplished it. They try with @empress to this day and core users will never go against her.
Just like we being the core base will support you and these votes don't matter. They just don't and we can never be voted into the negatives to be restricted.
As for your letter.....honestly just remember this place doesn't matter. It hasn't since atko stepped down and puttitout took over. He doesn't interact with the common user. That is why this place will become irrelevant in another year...maybe less. He won't impose changes that actual community suggests.
He goes and adds shit that no one asked for and will be circumvented as soon as it is started. Mark my words that this place will have banned users of core base within a couple months of him starting it.
It just doesn't matter and honestly your life would be better spent doing shit you can to make yourself happier.it is what I been doing. I come around now because many people here I consider friends. I know they won't leave, and they won't because they think this place matters.
It doesn't and it won't. Admin won't let it....otherwise people like fuzzywords, or cynabuns would still be here. They realized it and said fuck it. You got all these people that kiss puttitout's ass saying it is ok and you have done so much.
Yeah sure he has, and you won't get the best from someone with praise....you get it from criticizing them and offering new ideas, but he don't want that....he says I could have left a long time ago. Well a leader of change wouldn't keep reminding others of that.
Something here is fucked! Something changed when he took over and it isn't going to get better. Seen this place change for the better for 2.5 years then last year it started going to shit.
He can see this forum sliding like this and won't do a fucking thing. Come in and say some bullshit of my comment or yours then do an edit after we come comment back.
Saying I love you really I do. Well fuck that don't love me love the idea of what this place is meant to be. Instead he gets people to support him and not this place. The ideals this place was built on when atko made forbidme and then whoverse and lastly Voat.
freshmeat ago
Reddit cancer
adhdferret ago
Look at this comment. They know they have won the social media platforms...which to me is fine. Don't care really, and the reason I don't is because someday we will have an event where talking isn't going to solve shit.
Humanity always reverts to it's primal state and when it does you will die. That is what I wait for. It will happen in my lifetime. Your words, social engineering, and manipulation won't matter because everyone will be for themselves.
Sure you may find a do good type that will take you in, but they will die with you.
Have your fun while you can.
freshmeat ago
fuckin hilariously ironic considering you are what you claim to hate.
adhdferret ago
I hate ineptitude. That is what you possess. There is nothing you offer to the greater good of survival. You talk and talk and never impose meaningful change. I call it lazy because this is all you do to contribute.
It will work for the do good types as I said. They want to hold out hope that talking solves things. Well it doesn't. Only action makes change permanent.
Just like this.....keeping to comment back with inflammatory shit. You are doing nothing of substance. Nothing to better yourself that is. You find any type of attention good because you are hated by everyone around you.....so you come here and think that this is good.
You can decide the type of attention you receive with whatever name you sign in with. You can't even keep up with who you are as a person. It is why you have so many fucking accounts.
I got ONE just one because I am comfortable with who I am and I don't mask this in my day to day. You couldn't be real if it means your life....someday soon it will too.
So go ahead and keep commenting back because you have nothing else but fake personas.
freshmeat ago
I've stated clearly what must be done to fix this site.
Go rant at someone else