Not to be a turd in the punchbowl, but regarding the '600,000 Jews in Germany" figure vs the more common '6 gorillion', the former is Germany only, the latter includes Polish and Russian Jews.
Not sayin' I buy the math anyway, but just thought I'd point that out.
Never understood why Americans are so preoccupied with this hubbub between Jews and German Jew haters. Germany put Jew haters in power and some Jews organized some no account boycott. Ho hum.
oy vey! da eebil nazzzies are boycotting us for no reason.
Hahaha! This is funny. I don't remember Wiki ever mentioning the Jewish Boycott, I've been familiar with for over a decade now, and I just clicked onto it for fun.
Today's version- "The Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany began on April 1, 1933, and was claimed to be a defensive reaction to the Jewish boycott of German goods,"
2009 version- The Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany took place on 1 April 1933, soon after the coming into power of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party on 30 January 1933, which was the first of many measures of the Nazi regime against Jews of Germany, which ultimately culminated in the "Final Solution".
It charges everything. It creates credibility issues. There are holes throughout this story, you
respond with 'so what'. If you don't care, haven't researched, that's FINE, but why continue to
militant tow the line on a story you yourself admit isn't fully credible?
What would the son of a cat do but to hunt a mouse?
What one Jew is so another one is.
I have this idea of putting them in a quarry or salt mine and then just burying them all alive. Rid the world of their ilk in 2 weeks flat. We could forget that they had ever existed.
Even if I discovered that I, myself, were part Jewish, and by extension my family was too, it wouldn't change my position one iota. I'd be one of the last to go once the work was done. Willingly.
The Holocaust, also referred to as the Shoah,[b] was a genocide during World War II in which Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, aided by its collaborators, systematically murdered some six million European Jews, around two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe.[5][c] From 1941 to 1945, Germany targeted European Jewry for extermination as part of a larger event that included the persecution and murder of other groups. A broader definition of the Holocaust includes the murder of the Roma and the "incurably sick".[7] A broader definition still includes ethnic Poles, other Slavic groups, Soviet citizens and prisoners of war, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, black people, and political opponents.
So how much of a lie was the often-repeated and literally the only number most people know about WW2 or the Nazis, just from simple mathematics based on their own internally inconsistent claims?
To add to the trial bit, these are some of the other things the Germans were accused of:
● vaporizing 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz with “atomic energy”;
● killing 840,000 Russian POW’s at Sachsenhausen concentration camp (in one month, with special pedal-driven brain-bashing machines, no less), then disposing of them in mobile crematoria;
● torturing and killing Jewish prisoners to the tempo of a specially composed “Tango of Death” in Lvov;
● steaming Jews to death like lobsters at Treblinka;
● electrocuting them en masse at Belzec;
● making not only lampshades and soap but also handbags, driving gloves, book bindings, saddles, riding breeches, gloves, house slippers, etc. from the remains of their victims;
●killing prisoners and concentration camp inmates for everything from having armpit hair to soiled underclothing?
According to an article published on 13 December 2001 in The New York Times, "In the early years of the war the SS practiced methods of mass killing there that were later used in the Nazi death camps. Of the roughly 30,000 wartime victims at Sachsenhausen, most were Russian prisoners of war".[9][1
A source that is pro-holocaust has a number vastly lower than your claimed number, but that doesn't mean that the number of dead was actually that high, just that sources friendly to your chosen narratives claim less than you do.
Care to provide details, or answers to the more specific questions I had above?
Didn't nazis admit to doing it?
Rupert Butler wrote an Anti-Nazi book called Legions of Death in 1983. In it he wrote this.
The Nuremburg Court, or where nazis would have admitted such things, is where the ridiculous things like Jews being turned into lampshades and even soap were originally claimed, believed, and printed as fact.
It's your choice to believe it or not, but the Judge of that court, Edward L. Van Roden wrote in his book, "American Atrocities in Germany" about how 137 of the 139 alleged war criminals were tortured by having their testicles crushed.
You can DDG this:
Article 19 of the London Charter (rules for the Nuremburg Trials) states: "The Tribunal shall not be bound by rules of EVIDENCE."
Article 21 states: "The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof."
Okay, assuming the gassings didn't happen (which may be a more plausible possibillity than I realized), treating a group of people badly just cause of the actions of a few is pretty bad, right?
Good job my dood. You kept your cool and broke it all down within their own inconsistencies. You didn't even use the census numbers or the Red Cross reports! I'm impressed. (mostly cause you stayed calm ;p )
I think this is the most thorough destruction of holocaust belief that I've ever witnessed. What you did here was art. I'll be saving this thread to point people to it in the future.
Artofchoke ago
I have never heard of this. How incredible... its almost like our history books were written dishonestly! 😂
Pessimist ago
Not to be a turd in the punchbowl, but regarding the '600,000 Jews in Germany" figure vs the more common '6 gorillion', the former is Germany only, the latter includes Polish and Russian Jews.
Not sayin' I buy the math anyway, but just thought I'd point that out.
Its_ok_to_be_white ago
Stupid comment for easy access to the links.
ExpertShitposter ago
Discord is very likely. Newfags don't hate empress, they don't even know who she is.
inthemimeofnick ago
History, if it was accurate, would have shown that the Jews started it. But you know all about history being written by (((them)))
ExpertShitposter ago
Just so you and @Crensch know who you're talking with.....
https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2317184/11504949/10#11504949
Crensch ago
This is the dude I gassed twice. Professor_Autism and Sergeant_Asperger (i think were the names?)
ExpertShitposter ago
Yeah i remember the first one.
ThisIsMyRealName ago
Dubs, nice
Joe_McCarthy ago
Never understood why Americans are so preoccupied with this hubbub between Jews and German Jew haters. Germany put Jew haters in power and some Jews organized some no account boycott. Ho hum.
Goathole ago
yep, I know.
oy vey! da eebil nazzzies are boycotting us for no reason.
Hahaha! This is funny. I don't remember Wiki ever mentioning the Jewish Boycott, I've been familiar with for over a decade now, and I just clicked onto it for fun.
Today's version- "The Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany began on April 1, 1933, and was claimed to be a defensive reaction to the Jewish boycott of German goods,"
2009 version- The Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany took place on 1 April 1933, soon after the coming into power of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party on 30 January 1933, which was the first of many measures of the Nazi regime against Jews of Germany, which ultimately culminated in the "Final Solution".
Fuck Wikipedia.
submitted ago
https://archive.org/details/Httpsarchive.orgdetailsJudeadeclareswarongermany
Send that link to normies https://duckduckgo.com/?q=judea+declares+war+on+germany&atb=v81-1_y&iax=images&ia=images
Crensch ago
Oh shit, nice! thank you.
VicariousJambi ago
Saved the fuck outta that link!
It's not much, but here's a full size of your op.
https://kek.gg/i/6VQRCT.jpeg
Dylan_Klebold ago
It says 600,000, not 6 million.
Crensch ago
I'm SO glad you decided to chime in!
Here they are making news articles about 6 million before WW2. Oh, sorry, I wrote some of them out for you here.
Dylan_Klebold ago
So the number might be wrong. Doesn't change that the holocaust happened.
Artofchoke ago
It charges everything. It creates credibility issues. There are holes throughout this story, you respond with 'so what'. If you don't care, haven't researched, that's FINE, but why continue to militant tow the line on a story you yourself admit isn't fully credible?
FreeBreivik ago
The Jews deserved what they got.
Dylan_Klebold ago
No they didn't.
FreeBreivik ago
They deserve 10 times more now.
Dylan_Klebold ago
Not all of them.
FreeBreivik ago
What would the son of a cat do but to hunt a mouse?
What one Jew is so another one is.
I have this idea of putting them in a quarry or salt mine and then just burying them all alive. Rid the world of their ilk in 2 weeks flat. We could forget that they had ever existed.
Dylan_Klebold ago
I know some good jews.
FreeBreivik ago
Good for you. I know some good mosquitoes.
Dylan_Klebold ago
There's a difference between mosquitoes and humans. My wife, for example, is clearly not a mosquito.
FreeBreivik ago
Even if I discovered that I, myself, were part Jewish, and by extension my family was too, it wouldn't change my position one iota. I'd be one of the last to go once the work was done. Willingly.
Dylan_Klebold ago
My wife is full jew, and she is not a bad person.
FreeBreivik ago
You already said that. It's irrelevant. Jews are a defect of human history that must be corrected.
Dylan_Klebold ago
Well, you are named after a mass shooter, so i am not surprised you are a psycho.
FreeBreivik ago
He killed Communists. If it makes you feel better to end the discussion by writing me off, then it's a testiment to your intellectual inferiority.
submitted ago
"So the number might be wrong. Doesn't change that the holocaust happened."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
The Holocaust, also referred to as the Shoah,[b] was a genocide during World War II in which Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, aided by its collaborators, systematically murdered some six million European Jews, around two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe.[5][c] From 1941 to 1945, Germany targeted European Jewry for extermination as part of a larger event that included the persecution and murder of other groups. A broader definition of the Holocaust includes the murder of the Roma and the "incurably sick".[7] A broader definition still includes ethnic Poles, other Slavic groups, Soviet citizens and prisoners of war, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, black people, and political opponents.
MUH 6 MUHLLION
Crensch ago
Oh yeah? Which claims of the holocaust do you think actually happened? 6million? Gas chambers? Ovens? Death Rollercoasters? Soap? Lampshades?
Ho-Lee-Fuk ago
None of the above
Crensch ago
Which do you think WILL happen?
Ho-Lee-Fuk ago
Soap and lamp shades? Ewwwwww all but those
Crensch ago
Really? I'd hazmat the fuck outta myself and start tanning that sweet sweet Jew epidermis while the pot boils.
Ho-Lee-Fuk ago
Agghhhaaa noooo ha ha I appreciate your enthusiasm, but... But...
Crensch ago
You wouldn't buy one of these fine bars of soap from me?
Or this EXCEEDINGLY RARE lampshade with authentic Auschwitz tatto?
Astupidname69 ago
Those where the nazi's ground the jews down into a fine paste, which they then used to fuel their war machine
Tzitzimitl ago
the nazi fap machines of death
Neinlife ago
i defy fap machines to do me worse than I do me on fap day
Crensch ago
I forgot about those! Thank you for the smile and slightly stronger exhale than usual. (Won't claim to have fully laughed)
Dylan_Klebold ago
The soap and lampshade shit is wrong.
Crensch ago
That's not what I asked, now stop acting like a Jew and state your position clearly.
Dylan_Klebold ago
The gas and the ovens happened.
Crensch ago
And the number of dead?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Maybe off by hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million.
Crensch ago
So you think it's more like as little as 5 million then? Or are you saying up to 7 million?
Dylan_Klebold ago
5 million is the lowest.
Crensch ago
When the 6 million number came out, Auschwitz was reported to be 4 million of that. Do you agree?
Dylan_Klebold ago
No. In fact, they lowered that estimate.
Crensch ago
Really? What did they lower it to?
Dylan_Klebold ago
1.1 million for auschwitz
Crensch ago
And when was it that they lowered it?
Dylan_Klebold ago
1988.
Crensch ago
And when did the 6 million number come out?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Shit, can't find it.
Crensch ago
Is that so?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Maybe DuckDuckGo is just a shit search engine.
Crensch ago
Let me help
Dylan_Klebold ago
Alright. What does the date have to do with anything?
Crensch ago
What do you do when you're adding supposed death camps up to get a total for deaths?
Dylan_Klebold ago
I don't collect statistics like that, so I don't know.
Crensch ago
You don't know how to come up with a total number of deaths from various supposed death camps?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Well, yeah, that's simple addition.
Crensch ago
So in 1946 when the 6 million number came out, what was the accepted total for Auschwitz at that time?
Dylan_Klebold ago
4 million.
Crensch ago
And what did they lower it to, by your own admittance, in 1988?
Dylan_Klebold ago
1.1 million.
Crensch ago
So how many million were they off by?
Dylan_Klebold ago
2,900,000
Crensch ago
What's 6 million minus 2.9 million?
Dylan_Klebold ago
3,100,000.
Crensch ago
Then why did you claim it was as low as 5 million?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Shit, I didn't know.
Crensch ago
Let's just round the difference down to 3 million.
What percentage of 6 million is 3 million?
Dylan_Klebold ago
50%
Crensch ago
So how much of a lie was the often-repeated and literally the only number most people know about WW2 or the Nazis, just from simple mathematics based on their own internally inconsistent claims?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Okay, the holocaust is a half truth. Still somewhat correct.
Crensch ago
That's a lot of lie for my taste, but if a half lie is fine with you, then let's move on to the gas chambers.
Do you believe Jews were gassed with Zyklon B?
Do you believe that the pills were dropped from the chimney into the room?
Please furnish any other details you find particularly compelling.
Dylan_Klebold ago
Yes, the gassings happened. Didn't nazis admit to doing it?
Crensch ago
To add to the trial bit, these are some of the other things the Germans were accused of:
● vaporizing 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz with “atomic energy”;
● killing 840,000 Russian POW’s at Sachsenhausen concentration camp (in one month, with special pedal-driven brain-bashing machines, no less), then disposing of them in mobile crematoria;
● torturing and killing Jewish prisoners to the tempo of a specially composed “Tango of Death” in Lvov;
● steaming Jews to death like lobsters at Treblinka;
● electrocuting them en masse at Belzec;
● making not only lampshades and soap but also handbags, driving gloves, book bindings, saddles, riding breeches, gloves, house slippers, etc. from the remains of their victims;
●killing prisoners and concentration camp inmates for everything from having armpit hair to soiled underclothing?
Dylan_Klebold ago
Okay, they treated Russian POWs like shit. Ain't gonna convince me they didn't.
Crensch ago
That's not a claim I made. The above is simply to help illustrate the complete absurdity of the Nuremburg Trials.
Dylan_Klebold ago
27 million russians died during ww2. Wouldn't be surprised if that 840,000 event did happen.
Crensch ago
I assume you know that wikipedia is extremely positive towards the holocaust narrative.
http://archive.is/eeXeJ
Dylan_Klebold ago
Well, duh. they considered slavs subhuman, so of course they would kill a lot of them.
Crensch ago
A source that is pro-holocaust has a number vastly lower than your claimed number, but that doesn't mean that the number of dead was actually that high, just that sources friendly to your chosen narratives claim less than you do.
Dylan_Klebold ago
Alright.
Crensch ago
Is there anything else I can help you with? I'm sure you have a great deal to mull over already.
jcal22x ago
Nice job!
Dylan_Klebold ago
I don't know.
Crensch ago
Care to provide details, or answers to the more specific questions I had above?
Rupert Butler wrote an Anti-Nazi book called Legions of Death in 1983. In it he wrote this.
The Nuremburg Court, or where nazis would have admitted such things, is where the ridiculous things like Jews being turned into lampshades and even soap were originally claimed, believed, and printed as fact.
It's your choice to believe it or not, but the Judge of that court, Edward L. Van Roden wrote in his book, "American Atrocities in Germany" about how 137 of the 139 alleged war criminals were tortured by having their testicles crushed.
You can DDG this:
Article 19 of the London Charter (rules for the Nuremburg Trials) states: "The Tribunal shall not be bound by rules of EVIDENCE."
Article 21 states: "The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof."
Dylan_Klebold ago
Okay, assuming the gassings didn't happen (which may be a more plausible possibillity than I realized), treating a group of people badly just cause of the actions of a few is pretty bad, right?
Crensch ago
Please look at the picture in OP again, and ignore the red lines.
Sullysq ago
Good job my dood. You kept your cool and broke it all down within their own inconsistencies. You didn't even use the census numbers or the Red Cross reports! I'm impressed. (mostly cause you stayed calm ;p )
weredawg ago
I think this is the most thorough destruction of holocaust belief that I've ever witnessed. What you did here was art. I'll be saving this thread to point people to it in the future.
Crensch ago