Flight logs with overlay attached.
G-WACG
17 Nov 2017 18:05:41 UTC http://archive.is/x8GMh
17 Nov 2017 19:57:07 UTC http://archive.is/awNUg
G-JAMM
17 Nov 2017 18:05:58 UTC http://archive.is/aAGoj
17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 UTC http://archive.is/jaO4a
Helicopter set down 60 minutes into flight, waited, lifted off.
Plane took off when helicopter lifted off second time, found the same course as the helicopter, flew to 4000 feet, and dropped 2000 feet into it. 12 minute flight. It wasn't an askew (different directions) collision - they were on the same exact path. The plane dropped 2000 feet and sped up at last few minutes, just to make contact.
ON THE SAME HEADING.
this was intentional.
At six o'clock pm, there were no logs of the flight.
At eight, the logs finally showed up.
Here's a time-scaled overlay of the speed and altitude. Plane sped up and peaked about 3 minutes (my eyeball-guess) before impact. Note that the plane log starts when the plane is already in the air, at speed. Flight probably started at 11:45. The speed curve is level until it hits its peak altitude, and then accelerates. Look at the logs again.
Trainers stall out at 50 or so - it was doing 75 when it crested.
Tracked down owner corps:
G-JAMM
A WOODWARD AVIATION LTD.
10584674
64 NEW CAVENDISH STREET, LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM, W1G 8TB
Alexander John Woodward
G-WACG
00447296
WYCOMBE AIR PARK
BOOKER
MARLOW
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
SL7 3DP
The radar logs confirms that these two callsigns both "ended" at noon at same approximate location.
I've never seen a delay in the database before.
The flight ended at 1200. at 1800, still no logs, 2000, logs. Not sure exactly when they updated, but they should be in real time. The transponder had to be off, then on again - probably when found in custody, maybe by accident.
I don't know models, but the heli should be easy to figure out.
Crash site
Several articles, no good info on victims, all four "obviously dead":
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/17/aylesbury-mid-air-crash-fatalities-feared-afteraircraft-helicopter/
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letsdothis1 ago
Earlier that day the helicopter made a trip which is listed as going to London Heathrow. But following the flight path you can see that it flew by Waddesdon Manor twice https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-jamm#f8ecac1
Archive: http://archive.is/zNVMI https://imgur.com/a/NIAMb
shadow332 ago
Great find!