These radical billionaire-funded riots are getting out of hand. The first amendment is the first for a reason, freedom of speech is paramount for a free and happy society.
I don't pick sides, but I'm not against allying myself. The pendulum is swinging and the left is losing their damn minds. They'll regain it eventually.
But violence only creates more violence, suppressing speech only increases it's influence. The best thing you can do to combat this nonsense is to be peaceful and kind, especially to those you disagree with. Make them look like toddlers throwing a fit, be the better goat.
I love you all. Don't give in to the fear and react with violence.
MightMakesRight ago
Save it for sunday, preacher.
Shillhunt42 ago
Violence is always the final answer. Delude yourself if you like, but we are violent brutish creatures.
middle_path ago
What problem has violence completely solved? What problem has totally disappeared from the world thanks to violence?
Shillhunt42 ago
Let's look at it on an interpersonal level. If you and I have a conflict and one of us kills the other, then I would say problem solved for the survivor. I get the point you are making, I do. I just don't really buy it.
middle_path ago
And if one of us dies, you don't think one of our friends/family will try to take revenge? Violence just begets more violence.
Immediate self defense is the only time I see violence as effective. This isn't even a moral thing, just look at the history of humans.
Shillhunt42 ago
I'm not going to debate this opinion. The winners write the history books.
MightMakesRight ago
Revilo P. Oliver
collegetoker ago
In truth, we're just different archetypes of human beings competing for reproduction with alternative breeding strategies. Some people will go for the direct approach (chest puffing and violent displays), some people will go with charm, and some people go with intelligence. We're a massive genetic experiment which is determining what traits are valuable in human beings from a standpoint of biological success.
Stabzy ago
That is the kind of shit a fucking cuck would say. You just want to let your enemies fuck you in the ass and hope they stop. As my nigga Roadhog says, "violence is always the answer"
Violence is how you are heard
Violence ends with peace
bourbonexpert ago
actually, violence is totally ok after someone starts it. those shit heads at berkley should have been surrounded and captured, then all charged with felony riot. the guy who pepper sprayed that woman? public execution. the fuck that knocked the guy of his bike and beat him? public execution, both as enemy combatants.
the pretend radical liberals want a war? give it to them. only the truly deranged would continue and 95% of the kids would grow up and cut that shit out. the main reason why they do it is because they know they can get away with it.this would have set an example and announced the tone of law and order under the new grown up admin.
the BLM that block a highway and prevent an ambulance from getting to a hospital....every single one charged with murder 2.
Whitemail ago
I support the Pinochet plan for all communists and pushers of Marxist bullshit, because of the violence and destruction that results from these lies. In this case the state executing a few individuals will result in less violence and destruction.
Whitemail ago
You are the system, dumbass.
Eualos ago
Great, and very relevant username to boot!
Ace_Pilto ago
Protests are bullshit.
Anyone who thinks that "protesting" is reflective of freedom of speed is a fucking idiot.
Waving a banner with your faggot friends isn't freedom of speech, it's a privilege overly indulgent civil authorities that is about being a cunt while you enjoy the illusion of freedom. Protesting is LARPing your facebook status.
People who have opinions that are worth a shit publish them, that's the freedom of speech that needs protection but everyone has to softball these sign waving faggots. Muh amendment rights, it's a fucking joke. If all you do is fuck around waving gay signs, smashing shops and blocking traffic you don't deserve them. It does nothing, it is a waste of time for people who are emotionally incontinent and intellectually bankrupt.
What I'd like to see is mounted riot police charge in and fuck these idiots up. See how your faggoty little facemask and dipshit sign hold up to the argument of being smashed in the face with a truncheon and then try chanting your shitlord slogan while you're getting trampled by a an angry fucking horse.
piratse ago
I'm okay with violence. Peace won't solve problems. Almost every conflict has been solved with violence. We've been conned into being docile. REAL change is brought about by destroying those in power. The issue is morons directing the violence to the wrong people. Kill every elite in the world, watch how fast the entire world changes.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
i don't care which side you're on,
shilling is NEVER OK,
middle_path just bein' a shill: https://voat.co/v/whatever/1611575/7862385
oedipusaurus_rex ago
If it gets to the point where I'm going to react with violence then we're truly fucked as a country. Even though I don't agree with everything on the right, I'm much more inclined to side with them in the event of civil war.
MightMakesRight ago
And this is why White people are being drowned in a sea of other races. This is why Jews audaciously work to subvert our culture and public institutions. This is why our politicians openly betray their nations. This is why "refugees" come to White nations and demand first class accomodations. This is why White people will not survive another 100 years.
Our enemies no longer fear or respect us.
There is only one solution. And it's bloody.
LostandFound ago
Well said, and your correct to point out that its not actually the left that is rioting its paid assholes who should be locked up for domestic terrorism, send em to gitmo I say lets see how strong their resolve really is.
lordtyp0 ago
I think it's kind of ironic that the SJWs demand both 'eye for an eye', and an escalated form of punishment against what they see as wrong. It's like they follow the Bush Doctrine of Shock and Awe, while pretending it is just.
goatboy ago
Violence may never be OK, but it is occasionally appropriate- for example self defense, defense of others, failure or collapse of the judicial system, etc.
Sword-and-Shield ago
This is a shill tactic. I saw a video of Molyneux expressing the same message and after that I've been seeing lots of comments saying the same thing everywhere. If you think you can solve everything with logic or that in fact most people are logical, then you are wrong. My first example is to look at countries like Sweden and Germany where even if you present a logical argument and present what the people want and don't want, it's leaders will continue to operate on it's own. Sweden, France and many other countries are paying the price, especially it's citizenry.
What happens if a government goes rogue? What about those paid agitators causing havoc, punching, spitting Trump supporters, blocking highways when an emergency or an ambulance needs to quickly get to the hospital to save a life? They should sit by, be "understanding". Fuck off, the worst of the worst are people like you, with a shill name and a shill message.
Mylon ago
Thank you for not using "never".
Gringojones ago
I would never use that word. There has never been a situation that that word would be acceptable.
middle_path ago
It was intentional, but it seems no one here got that point.
middle_path ago
Like the yogurt?
FreeToWander ago
If they aren't threatening then I'd stop and give 3 honks then start cruising forward. If they're aggressive, I'm slamming the pedal down. My goal isn't to hurt people, but pedestrians don't have a place in the road, and if I feel threatened all bets are off.
Clientkill ago
Horseshoe theory is bullshit, and the "middle road" is not always the best. There are plenty of times when violence is not only okay but necessary. I'm not saying this is one of them, but you can't paint in strokes that broad.
middle_path ago
I said rarely, home boy
MightMakesRight ago
You could not be more wrong. My dear hippy. Strength is the first and most important value. It is the value which makes all other things possible. This isn't some idealised childrens cartoon. This is life. Only the strong survive.
As a wise man once said,
Don't be a pussy. Fight for the continuation of your values. You must.
Stabzy ago
This is correct
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Absolutely agree.
I'll never start with violence, but when the opponent is using violence to try and destroy you and your way of life you are required to return force to eliminate the threat.
middle_path ago
And how has that worked out for our world?
MightMakesRight ago
Like it or not, the inevitability of violence is a human truism. Without struggle we atrophy and self destruct. It may not be palatable, but it is necessary.
middle_path ago
I didnt say "never" for a reason.
TheDude2 ago
It's time to have free speeches all over the country. Legally assembled groups that read the Constitution out loud and wave American flags.
massiveprivilege ago
Yes americans. Tell me more how violence is never ok.
1moar ago
That's some nice false equivalence you got there.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
It doesn't what is ok anymore. This isn't a moral age or time we are living in. The wisest voices in our society might as well be silent for all that they are ignored over the roar of the yellow propaganda journalists.
Our country is fucked because frankly we did not honor our founding values enough. The ethos that binds our country together has been destroyed by wave after wave of greedy politician and businessman selling us out. Better this place be destroyed than continue to endure its hypocrisy.
Islamiscancer ago
Violence is literally always OK.
Nothing will be done if violence is not an option.
But Violence doesnt mean "sucker punch to the face" it can also entail "Genociding your entire people by means of Sterilisation".
Violence is the only message Lefty Reddit Faggots will understand. But dont hurt them.
You have to kill them.. Remove them from the Genepool is the only valid option.
Meanwhile, spend the next few decades arguing over how its a big bad meany poo poo to hurt someones feelings, all the while a bunch of niggers just outbreed you and take over White Demographics in Once White Nations.
We need Right Wing Death Squads.. We need to clean up the filth.
PRODEATH ago
jesus christ
ginx2666 ago
It might not be "okay", as in "socially acceptable", but it gets shit done. Get over it, hippie.
middle_path ago
So the entire history of humans being at war and constantly dividing themselves is what you consider getting shit done?
ginx2666 ago
Yyyyup! If it weren't for warfare, we literally wouldn't be there. Neanderthals or some other niggers would have taken over. Same with technological advancement - do you enjoy wearing pantyhose you freak? Well guess what - you wouldn't have nylon if it weren't researched for war purposes. How about most recent news, and piracy incidents near african coasts: the only ships pirates avoid are Russian ones, because the latter don't hesitate to shoot dinghies on sight.
You want your hippie la-la nobody-hurts-anyone flowery paradise? Look no further than Sweden, where all pacifists are getting pacified by sandniggers willing to be brutal.
There are maybe dozen of major incidents where peaceful ways achieved goals. Violence achieved desired results thousands of times.
middle_path ago
And all those times we fall into more violence, more dispair. History is repeating for a reason, to teach a lesson.
ginx2666 ago
Oh look, just recently a violent chimpout managed to achieve their goals, meaning they stopped Milo Yawhatswiththisfaggotsnamepenis from coming to Berkley. Good or evil intentions, violence just fucking works. A child knows that, but looks like passive hippie faggots managed to unlearn the most basic stuff.
middle_path ago
But they have only strengthened his pull with the right. Now they've made a martyr of him. They won a battle, not the war.
Diomedes1001 ago
^
Troll ago
If violence is so bad then why is it being instigated so often by the American Jews?
zoot3d ago
this guy fucks
SaveTheChildren ago
They do a fine enough job doing this themselves.
SaltyMango ago
wish i could upvoat you, but these damn limits...
Swallow_That ago
Patience, grasshopper, patience.
Eualos ago
Violence is only okay to defend against violence actively committed by others.
Stabzy ago
Violence is okay in order to show dominance to make sure you're not fucked with in the first place
Eualos ago
Yeah. OK stabzy...
collegetoker ago
So the non aggression principle?
Eualos ago
Yes, that is the philosophy to which I subscribe. Screw pacifism.
collegetoker ago
It's a pacifism enforced by mutually assured violence, no?
Eualos ago
I think the definition of pacifism is no violence whatsoever at any point regardless of anything. What I'm talking about is not being the first to use violence, I don't mean never use it. Sometimes it's necessary.
FreeToWander ago
I think that preventative action can also be justified, if there's a threat it has to be dealt with.
Eualos ago
But were do you draw the line of justification? At a certain point you reach thought crime as your only justification for violence and you're instigating violence where none was occurring previously. For example, if you view Islam as a threat in any form you can deal violently with all of its practitioners including young children. They may not have done anything or have any violent intentions other than submission to Allah and a desire to have him be the one single God of the world. They won't have gotten to the point of forceful conversion, but it would still be a threat according to the above definition and would thus have to be dealt with. Another example I saw recently was a protester pepper spray police. He held it up, but until he sprayed it they didn't react in any way. He was wrestled to the ground and disarmed immediately after. This is, I believe, the right way of dealing with violence and aggression.
FreeToWander ago
I said preventative action, not blatant attacks. Being prepared for violence and taking steps to control it isn't the same as attacking someone based on their beliefs.
Ex: Roof Koreans, the people who defended their property in LA riots. Intimidation is one way to deal with conflict.
Eualos ago
Fair enough. But, I wouldn't call roof Koreans violent. They're only violent if they fire their guns, which they wouldn't do unless someone was attacking their store.
FreeToWander ago
That's why I used them as an example. Their presence was twofold: they were in a position to defend their property if they had to, and their armed presence alone was likely to deter any would-be looters. Perfect example of acting to prevent violence in a reasonable way.
jerry ago
Self defense is always ok, as long as its self defense. You can also defend third parties too that cannot defend themselves. Its fucked up these protestor dicks are attacking people.
sumguy ago
upvoat for sanity and tolerance.
zoot3d ago
fuck tolerance. respect is earned, not deserved.
edit words
ginx2666 ago
Respect is earned, not deserved.
zoot3d ago
yeah, oops. you guys know what i meant. fixed
sumguy ago
maybe we define things differently... tolerance is deserved, respect is Earned. I can tolerate most people, but respect only a few.
Gringojones ago
Tolerance is only deserved if it is mutual.
sumguy ago
I can sorta agree there, but since I can't control others (if you know how, please share!), I can only control my own thoughts/actions and Tolerance is my default state. I would hope that most sane and logical people are in the same boat.
StillNewbie ago
Yep, that's good Telescreen tolerance right there.