Example of subverse owner deleting content that didn't break the rules (theunexplained)

submitted ago by Renatus

In response to a submission linking to a video of pertinence to monsters in the Bible, a commentator proposed the Jews.

  • That's not against the rules.
  • It's not spam.
  • It's not racist.
  • It's not hate speech.

It's an objective, contextual and valid statement of fact.

The video itself examines monsters, terrible creatures, mythical beasts and tribes, specifically, The Nephilm. Relevant excerpt from video transcript:

the passage refers to the mixing of two human tribes: ‘godly’ people descended from the good-guy Seth and the somewhat less godly descendants of bad-guy Cain.

A discussion of the Jewish people was not only relevant, moreover, it was absolutely intrinsic to the discussion of the hypothesis. Voat users should be able issue critical utterance of the Jewish people, especially in historical/theological/mythological contexts, without the fear of:

  • Submission/comments deletion.
  • Being misnomered as spammers, Nazis, racists or agents of hate speech/crime.
  • Being shamed, lectured, insulted and aggressively confronted by politically-correct SJW/NPC mods.

Nonetheless, the subverse "owner", @diesel4420, deleted the comment.

Sources:

The current subverse owner is a sleeper-agent SJW:

  • @diesel4420 is a proud socialist who can be found evangelising the benefits of socialism to v/politics. E.g. 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
  • @diesel4420 views anything right of his polarized left-leaning cultural-Marxist ideologies as "racist", "hateful" or "Nazism".
  • @diesel4420 is a wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. First, he ascertained ownership of prominent subverse with >13k subscribers. Secondly, he censors free speech using his arbitrary definition of "hate speech" as pretext, a standard that he admittedly does not commit himself to. Thirdly, he's currently engaged in attacking and shaming all Voat members that champion free speech.

It's a dangerous Orwellian culture and dangerous precedence for Voat

Such a moderating style fosters an SJW culture synonymous with NPCs, "wrong think", communism, socialism, Marxism, identity politics, political correctness etc.

The concern is the "domino effect" or the idiomatic expression: "The thin end of the wedge." Exponentially aggressive political correctness at the hands of unchecked SJW/NPC socialist mods will overspill into the policies and governing of peripheral subverses. It happened on Reddit. It'll happen here if not nipped in the bud.

15641834? ago

The subverse is useless if everyone ignores it, unless it acts as a voat farm.

fusir ago

That is a bit of a stretch. The Jews are never described in the bible as a monster.

I'm all for hanging power mods but lets hang him with something better than this. I think not following his own rules is a better case.

Renatus ago

Definition of monster

An inhumanly cruel or wicked person.

Source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/monster

Biblical description of Jews

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee

Source: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+3%3A9&version=KJV

fusir ago

Ok. Fair enough. I just wanted to see that in the argument.

Renatus ago

Revelation 3:9:

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

See "Synagogue of Satan".

european ago

Gas the mods

WakkoWarner ago

I don't follow this sub so i have pretty much no idea about what you are talking about, but as a general rule of the thumb here on Voat personal subs (non system-subs) like /v/theunexplained are not usually subject to any special rule for the admins and moderators (beside, of course, what violates the terms of service of Voat or what is plainly illegal), or at least not that i know of. In other words, whoever is the owner of the sub, decides which rules to apply, even if they are stupid or laughable. If you don't agree with the moderation style of a subverse you are free to create a different sub where your own rules apply.

Said this... of course i don't agree with any kind of censorship and i think that moderators and sub-owners on Voat should respect the free speech of Voat's users because this is what makes Voat different, special and important and sets it apart from other cesspools online. This is why i like Voat and this is why i am not a user of other social networks or mainstream websites. If it was for me nothing beside doxxing, systematic user bashing and outright defamation should be censored, including any kind of pictures, videos, texts, audios, ideas, subjects, etc. Even hard-core fights between users should not be censored. It is a shame that some moderators and sub-owners treat their users as little children that need to be punished and scolded for using "bad words" or expressing "bad ideas" or "bad opinions" and it is certainly against the spirit of Voat.

FecalDemiurge6000 ago

But we're also free to make snarky comments about his mom until he bans us.

WakkoWarner ago

That's true.

FecalDemiurge6000 ago

And bigfoot porn. We can post bigfoot porn. As long as it's not doctored it's within the rules I think.

Bravo1XRay ago

They're mad at the Golems? That's Rich...

andrew_jackson ago

Or you can get over yourself and understand that subverse admins are free to run their subverses as they chose?

derram ago

They need to drive off any users of subverses that don't pander to their bullshit least they get drowned out.

Shits been going on for like 2 years now. Free speech is real important when it comes to them being able to say nigger every 10 minutes, but not so much when a new group comes along.

Then, suddenly, posts from groups like the Qanon people need to be limited because "muh community" and "muh preexisting culture."

Eventually Putt will have to institute some anti-harassment/anti-brigading rules and these same dipshits will, without a shred of self-reflection, try to blame it on the people they've been fucking with.

MrDarkWater ago

Hey faggot, voat has an active wall to keep it's interior from getting all fucked up by the wrong kinds of people. Diversity is NOT strength and the best of voat will only exist as long as there's understood house rules that don't change to make some fresh internet-reject happy.

The groups don't come along and say things that are problematic, they come here and want to change things, change the rules.

The system here works

Bravo1XRay ago

Admins may actually be Golems ☝️ KeK

andrew_jackson ago

Gassing is always an option, Friend.

totes_magotes ago

Keep putting the pressure on this guy. It doesn't matter what the admin views on this are because they come at this from the "technical" perspective. What he's doing is completely unacceptable.

derram ago

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=8RLsCXAYm-s :

Top 10 Monsters in the Bible - YouTube

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