I just don't understand this either... whats with the mod conspiracy?? This mod crap is such a distraction to the good work being done by real Patriots. Old goats are saying "your mods" this and that. And NR "this and that". I have no idea what to think, who to believe nor do I really care, unless there has been a deliberate attempt to subvert the movement at whole. And if the agenda by hiding this sub is nafarious, then we do indeed have a problem.
Leaving this post up (although it's completely off-topic) so I can respond to you.
Voat's site effectively works against itself in many ways, imo as a product manager. Two days ago, we were very close to be able to change this setting (something we've weighed the pros and cons of doing). I checked the time remaining before going to sleep Saturday evening. When I woke up and refreshed the settings Sunday morning, the hour countdown had been reset once again, to 48 hours. No one on the mod team pressed the "Save" button that edits this hour countdown. We have asked the owner of the website here multiple times if there is a software issue, or some other thing at play, and have received no response.
I originally applied this setting because I had a feeling the Reddit trolls would follow us here (they did), and also had a lack of understanding, as there is no FAQ or Support or Help pages explaining these settings that can be navigated to.
There are pros and cons to this setting, and I'm not 100% convinced it should be changed, as it seems like most of the people calling for this are not here in good faith. Changing this setting to zero would place our posts on voat/All, which I can't imagine that those who continue to harass us, send death threats, and spam our community would want.
We would like to put up a poll, calling for the community to comment and vote on this as we've done in the past, but are unable to post.
At the time I am typing this, there are 14 hours left. We will see if that countdown actually goes to zero, or if it continues to stay and reset itself programagically.
This mod crap is such a distraction to the good work being done
a deliberate attempt to subvert the movement at whole.
Bingo.
"MODS SILENT AND HAVE ABANDONED" - can't post/comment due to Voat's content restrictions stifling and silencing speech.
"MODS PURGING MODS" - can't edit moderators, so you have to delete all moderators in order to change their settings. additionally, some of our moderators have decided to leave as they don't enjoy the platform.
"MODS CCP BLAH BLAH" - we have wasted our ten comments a day speaking about this at length.
"MODS CREATED KARMA FARM" - NEW! One mod helps new mods trying to test post by creating place to do so, eventual goal of testing out new stylesheets so that user experience here isn't changed, but somehow we're "karma farming" by jokingly commenting on a test post.
Context: another mod, who previously did some of our CSS work and works in development, set up a subverse here so we could play around & get familiar with the site and test things out. Someone created a "Q-proof"-esque graphic with screenshots of our (admittedly silly) test comments, to say that we were trying to engage in vote manipulation.
When creating the sub, I set the CCP to -5 in hopes to prevent karma farming, dissuade shills/trolls from following us here, and to make the transition easier on those who scroll v/All. I did check for documentation before saving the settings, but wasn't aware of the other effects until Voaters chimed in. I'm not sure offhand if CCP is turned on or off in that test sub, but I'm glad you mentioned this - thanks for edumacatin' me!
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Pickzilla ago
I just don't understand this either... whats with the mod conspiracy?? This mod crap is such a distraction to the good work being done by real Patriots. Old goats are saying "your mods" this and that. And NR "this and that". I have no idea what to think, who to believe nor do I really care, unless there has been a deliberate attempt to subvert the movement at whole. And if the agenda by hiding this sub is nafarious, then we do indeed have a problem.
high-valyrian ago
Leaving this post up (although it's completely off-topic) so I can respond to you.
Voat's site effectively works against itself in many ways, imo as a product manager. Two days ago, we were very close to be able to change this setting (something we've weighed the pros and cons of doing). I checked the time remaining before going to sleep Saturday evening. When I woke up and refreshed the settings Sunday morning, the hour countdown had been reset once again, to 48 hours. No one on the mod team pressed the "Save" button that edits this hour countdown. We have asked the owner of the website here multiple times if there is a software issue, or some other thing at play, and have received no response.
I originally applied this setting because I had a feeling the Reddit trolls would follow us here (they did), and also had a lack of understanding, as there is no FAQ or Support or Help pages explaining these settings that can be navigated to.
There are pros and cons to this setting, and I'm not 100% convinced it should be changed, as it seems like most of the people calling for this are not here in good faith. Changing this setting to zero would place our posts on voat/All, which I can't imagine that those who continue to harass us, send death threats, and spam our community would want.
We would like to put up a poll, calling for the community to comment and vote on this as we've done in the past, but are unable to post. At the time I am typing this, there are 14 hours left. We will see if that countdown actually goes to zero, or if it continues to stay and reset itself programagically.
Bingo.
"MODS SILENT AND HAVE ABANDONED" - can't post/comment due to Voat's content restrictions stifling and silencing speech.
"MODS PURGING MODS" - can't edit moderators, so you have to delete all moderators in order to change their settings. additionally, some of our moderators have decided to leave as they don't enjoy the platform.
"MODS CCP BLAH BLAH" - we have wasted our ten comments a day speaking about this at length.
"MODS CREATED KARMA FARM" - NEW! One mod helps new mods trying to test post by creating place to do so, eventual goal of testing out new stylesheets so that user experience here isn't changed, but somehow we're "karma farming" by jokingly commenting on a test post.
ObamasPinkSock ago
FYI: the Minimum CCP required for downvoting on the CSS testing environment is set to 5, which makes farming impossible.
high-valyrian ago
Context: another mod, who previously did some of our CSS work and works in development, set up a subverse here so we could play around & get familiar with the site and test things out. Someone created a "Q-proof"-esque graphic with screenshots of our (admittedly silly) test comments, to say that we were trying to engage in vote manipulation.
When creating the sub, I set the CCP to -5 in hopes to prevent karma farming, dissuade shills/trolls from following us here, and to make the transition easier on those who scroll v/All. I did check for documentation before saving the settings, but wasn't aware of the other effects until Voaters chimed in. I'm not sure offhand if CCP is turned on or off in that test sub, but I'm glad you mentioned this - thanks for edumacatin' me!