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madhatter67 ago

How about you try integrating with voat rather than creating your own reddit ghetto?

You do know we have had our own Q related subverse here for some time?

why not come point people to /v/GreatAwakening?

4TheRepublic ago

You know, I understand your faux nativefag disgust and contempt. but where in the almighty VOAT rules does it say that newfags can't start a new subverse? I welcome enlightenment. Who died and made you G-dfag?

kneo24 ago

No one said you couldn't start your own subverse. They were merely stating a censorship free option exists that isn't designed to keep you hidden from the rest of the site.

Doodle_and_me ago

Are new subverses subject to approval by admins? I mean, i wouldn't think so given the nature of voat. So if a subverse starts up and wants to keep a certain look and feel (no profanity, no racist comments...just stick to the topic and keep it clean), and if the new mods are up front about it, why does the rest of voat not just live and let live?

Is the rest of the voat community going to use downvoats to censor people who want a slice of professionalism in a discussion? Is that idea really so offensive? Are they going to intentionally shill the subverse with all the unwanted stuff?

I kinda feel like we landed here because it was 1) free, 2) already somewhat well known, 3) reasonably safe from left wing shutdowns, and 4) easy to sign up. I definitely don't get the impression that it's all that welcoming. I mean, I'm here so...whatever. I'll deal with it. I'll stick around as long as the Q posts/discussion lands here. But I'm really hoping some better site comes along where the "hosts" don't require profanity and racism out of all their communities. In case the admins are looking for opinions. This place is nuts.

kneo24 ago

Way to miss the point. Entirely. You deserve one big whoosh. There was so much wrong with how this place was set up, and it's still not being undone yet. You should be able to freely downvoat. You, as a member of the community should be able to click that button with low quality submissions and posts that don't fit what you want. Something posts something profane and quite honestly of low quality, click that downvote button. Instead, that option was removed unless you make some stupid submission getting 5 SCP here. It's entirely dumb. There are going to be users who don't like posting stuff here - they just want to lurk or participate in discussions. You don't need moderators to foster that level of decorum.

No one is requiring you guys to be profane, or "racist". However, if you can't say those very things because TPTB silence it, free speech doesn't exist and you can't discuss ideas in an honest manner.

What nuts is that you wanted a platform of censorship on a platform that loathes it. You can go back to Reddit if you wanted your safe space.

Doodle_and_me ago

I just wanted a platform that would leave us alone to discuss our ideas. Didn't realize that opposition would come from those professing to be on the same side as Q.

So in your judgement, is a set of agreed-upon rules in a forum to manage discussion worse than the actual deep state we're discussing?

I think you missed my point. I had no say in where the majority of GA refugees landed. I don't know who made the final decision. I'm just looking for common ground so we can get back to it. Is the set of agreed-upon rules going to cause a permanent, insurmountable rift? Or is there a way to further the work here in spite of that disagreement?

If not, then for the sake of expedience, i think we really should find another place and get on with the actual discussion. I'm hoping it can be worked out.

kneo24 ago

I just wanted a platform that would leave us alone to discuss our ideas.

And you have that hear, as long as people aren't being censored for dumb reasons.

Didn't realize that opposition would come from those professing to be on the same side as Q.

  • Would Q want your speech to be silenced and led by wolves who are going to further silence you?
  • Would Q want you guys to engage in the very practices that removed you from another platform, making you hypocrites?

I would hope not to both questions. Not all goats here believe Q is real, or that Q is even a force of good. Many of us don't care about Q stuff at all. On the other hand, many do care about it. What we all agree upon is free speech is paramount.

So in your judgement, is a set of agreed-upon rules in a forum to manage discussion worse than the actual deep state we're discussing?

I actually don't care what your rules are as long as users aren't being censored for dumb reasons. If you don't like being called a nigger, downvote and move on. Block the person if you need to (you could just ignore the person as well). If you're an adult, you should be able to handle that much. If you're a kid, welcome to the wild west. It's time to grow up.

I think you missed my point.

Ah, so you wanted to make a point that had nothing to do with what I wrote. My apologies that I misunderstood.

On that note, you can always visit v/GreatAwakening to discuss Q stuff. It's ran by different people than you're used to, but hopefully you see that your mod team exposed themselves for the people that they are. It's a little less curated, but you're free to discuss Q stuff to your hearts content.

Doodle_and_me ago

Thanks for your input.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

a platform that would leave us alone to discuss our ideas

so a safe space?

Didn't realize that opposition would come from those professing to be on the same side as Q

we're on the side of free speech, I hope Q isn't against the first amendment

Anaximandel ago

Couple of reasons.

1) You suck up our bandwidth setting up your safe space here. Bandwidth that is provided through donations, not ads or propaganda a la reddit.

2) Another great awakening subverse is already in place. Making another one with the same mods screams of hypocrisy and control, especially when dissent was being banned.

3) Large "restricted free speech zones" in voat water down our culture - one which has been created from swallowing a thousand painful red pills. Fuck off back to wherever you came from if "no profanity and racism" is more important to you than free speech.

4) Niggers.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

Are new subverses subject to approval by admins?

they're subject to the speech of the userbase and that's why I'm here telling you niggers that you're a bunch of faggot redditors and should kill yourselves

I kinda feel like we landed here because it was 1) free

and your faggot mods tried to make it less so with their censorship

3) reasonably safe from left wing shutdowns

but not from shutdowns from your mods banning people you fucking retard

BuilderAnon ago

Because the rest of Voat won’t pay for censorship. This is a user funded site. They are unwilling to pay for your safe space. You kicked in the door and decided you owned the place then locked out those who’s who paid for it in the first place.

4TheRepublic ago

Well... Kiss my niggerfaggot ass. Thank you. But still... tell me (again) how a "hidden" subverse harms the rest of the site. Something about 'cancer'? and 'chemo'?

Rotteuxx ago

How about not ignoring the attacks on the existing subverse by your crew, calling them shills and saying it's subverted and then claiming the new sub is the only worthy one ?

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

how does the muslim no-go zone in Malmo, Sweden hurt sweden if their citizens don't even go there amiright? (((tolerance))) and (((diversity)) for the win

Anaximandel ago

Reddit raises money through narrative pushing organizations. Voat raises money through donations. These donations come from die hard free speech supporters, which this new group is (was?) not.

BuilderAnon ago

VOAT users pay for the servers you are using. You are increasing the costs to every one without adding to the community that supports this place. You walked in like a nigger and started putting your dick in things.

kneo24 ago

Their platform of censorship gives a bad user experience and sows in the minds of those that don't know any better a false picture of how Voat is.

deleteme123 ago

People will discover the main page by themselves, concernfag.

kneo24 ago

And yet most of them seemed to not have done so by the amount of 0 CCP users in this community. Do you have any other absolutely retarded things to say?

deleteme123 ago

Yeah: give it time you impatient fuck.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

just go back to reddit already you faggots don't belong here if you need a private safespace to cry in

deleteme123 ago

Oooh so it has to be your way or the high way? Fuck off.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

yeah? check the OP you're going to 8chan so you lot picked the highway lol

kneo24 ago

Apparently I don't need to since your faggot mods are culling people to another place where they can continue their censorious behavior elsewhere.

Hell, your pathetic shitskin wannabe mods couldn't even post a sticky telling your community how things work here after they learned about it to help the community along.

Here, take another opportunity to post another absolutely retarded thing. You're amusing me with it.

deleteme123 ago

You truly are the Savior these refugees needed. Thanks for opening our sheeple eyes, concernfag. We would've never discovered the other parts of this island, or its rules, without your tremendous concern.

Praised be you, fag.

kneo24 ago

/s

You have to go back. Reddit will welcome you with open arms.

deleteme123 ago

I'm good here, thanks. Will you kindly fuck off with your better than thou attitude, now? (Plz say no)

kneo24 ago

Not until you go back to your safe space. It's clear you enjoy censorship and that you haven't gotten enough of it. Why else would you continue to support this moderation team?

deleteme123 ago

[crap] Why else would you continue to support this moderation team?

My understanding is that TA is trying to make a family-friendly sub. I can respect that, given that there's a NSFW alternative on the same fucking island.

Choice is good.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

a family-friendly sub

so a safe space

kneo24 ago

You know, blocking users yourself that are vulgar isn't a hard thing to do. Are you a child that needs their hand held everywhere, or an adult who is capable of making decisions for themselves?

deleteme123 ago

If I want unfiltered content, I know where to go. If I want filtered content, I know where to go.

I like choice. Don't throw that false dichotomy at me bro.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

filtered content

filtered as in censored of course

kneo24 ago

Ah, so child it is.

deleteme123 ago

If that's the only way your brain can understand it: sure. Child.

kneo24 ago

My brain perfectly understand just fine. You want a community, where the moderators are heavy handed and push out "mean" words - aka Reddit, where adults with child like tendencies roam. They're essentially children, and so are you.

deleteme123 ago

Believe it or not, the two communities can coexist on the same island. It does not have to be an exclusive thing. Different subs for different moods. Many will visit and contribute to both.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

just like muslims are coexisting with sweden amiright