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Trash_Panda ago

It's not even just about new users. I've been phasing out Voat just because I've become more happy and less 'le epic edgy internet troll conspiracy theorist'. Voat thinks people dislike Voat because it's too edgy for them. In reality people don't like Voat because it's just not fun. The rallying cry of "let's all be miserable together" is not overly compelling.

bb22 ago

I’m not miserable here. I actually laugh at lots of it.

Trash_Panda ago

And you are truly happy?

bb22 ago

Is this a philosophical question that you expect a real answer to?

Trash_Panda ago

Just a question. There's probably outliers but I think the vast majority on this site aren't actually happy. I have trouble envisioning happy loving households where they take time out of their day to go online and express their undying hatred for niggers and Jews. Negative energy is like any other drug or vice, temporary highs followed by more consistent lows. I can't remember ever seeing any user created content that inspires the soul or evokes beauty. It doesn't mean you're bad people, just lost and steeped in poisonous interactions. And like, that's the selling point.

bb22 ago

Look at it from my perspective. I've known about these problems for months/years/over a decade in some cases, with very few people to share all of this stuff with. Do you think I was happier back then? Do you not think I'd be happier to see things actually beginning to change while talking to like-minded people? Do you think a happy life is free of some form of suffering in the first place? And for the suffering that each of us inevitably face in life, who is ultimately responsible for that? Does anyone MAKE you feel anything, or are you in control of your own feelings?

Trash_Panda ago

Well there's two kinds of suffering, one is suffering for love of another, one is suffering in the confines of one's own personal hell/prison. I gauge my success by how often, or rather how profoundly, I have positively impacted people's lives. 10 years of circle jerking about the NWO and calling people names I realized I hadn't done much of anything at all. It's nice to have a framework about how the world operates and be wary of the evils within it but you can spend your entire life obsessing over the details and accomplish nothing.

None of this is new, the general population will never "wake up", but what you can do is show the people a better life full of love and pure magic that they've never experienced before. That's how you reach people.

That's what YOU specifically are capable of. You can change the world around you in ways other people can't even begin to understand. But you're using your tools incorrectly. You're just banging on the door instead of turning the handle.

Have you had any sort of spiritual experiences yet? Check it out https://youtu.be/bZNyg6Qc_os

People who make stuff like this are just like me and you, we lived shitty lives and felt alone, very very alone, and struggled and fought for something, we didn't know what, we just knew there was something somewhere, and then one day we found it. Like breaking through the surface of the water and emerging a new person. And then you discover your spiritual family has been there the whole time waiting for you. Screaming in your ear. And you just couldn't hear it.

https://youtu.be/kGzDN9rJlLI

"You were always searching For something out there Out of reach, couldn't stop you Couldn't hold you back You were so real, so real

When the words are like bullets And they break through your skin, And there's no way to get them all out When it feels like a rush seeping into your soul Stay gold Stay gold Stay gold"

You're not alone. You just feel like it.

And when I stopped with the bullshit and continued down the road I met her. We're getting married in 8 months.

Don't you wish you could find a woman who just gets it? Like you? On every fundamental level? She's out there. Waiting for you to be ready. And if you're never ready you'll never meet her.

And yes, I also find beautiful and inspiring things here, but more of in a manly way that your namby-pamby reddit faggots who are literal faggots.

Nah man you've got it backwards. That's what it means to walk with the Lord https://youtu.be/MGslEcmVurg

This was literally my rebirth video. Called birth place. This randomly came on during a profound spiritual experience with aforementioned girl. You can live in a world of actual, literal magic and love and wonder. Or live in the trash. Most choose the latter.

bb22 ago

I'm not sure if you're trying to convince me of something, or yourself. Out of nowhere, just because I say that I'm happy, you go into this giant complex of emotions and psychology. Was it you who just mentioned projection earlier, or did I read that somewhere else?

For me to even engage you on all this petty bullshit would drag me down. So watch and learn, as I ignore your psychoanalyzing bullshit based on a handful of lines on Voat (what a genius fucking psychologist you must be) and go about my day.... happily. :)

Trash_Panda ago

Noooooo you've got it all wrong. It was a crazy religious rant. Have a great night though 👍

bb22 ago

That's fine, and I've known other guys like you, but not everybody gets that kind of enjoyment out of life. My ex girlfriend of 3 years used to enjoy cutesy silly stuff like that. Instead of finding it magical, I found it unbearable. I would much rather argue with people about the NWO than all this womanly shit. Most men in my family seem to be the same way.

Trash_Panda ago

All our lives we are chasing after our childhood and the more we choose to reject that the unhappier we will be. That's all. Whatever it is that sets your soul on fire, that is the pathway to God. The more you immerse yourself in that, the more you will understand. And depending how badly you want it and pursue it, the spiritual and physical world will blend together like a hurricane and you will be powerless to feel anything but awe and tears and joy. No matter how manly you are.

bb22 ago

Ever ate a bunch of acid or mushrooms? If you like blending the physical and spiritual worlds into an emotional hurricane then you'll like those too.

Trash_Panda ago

So, I worked really hard on this for you I'd appreciate if you'd at least skim through this response. It's got a lot of meat to it. Lots of NWO conspiracy goodness as well.

I'm aware of hallucinogens. I used to study the occult. I used to eat acid by the vial. I believe it constitutes ritualistic, illegal entry into the spiritual world.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

I believe that TPTB, which if you are religious, you know are Satanic/Luciferian, are propagating these ritualistic/illegal methods of entry and using methods to dampen our natural tendency to perceive the divine, for example with fluoridation, psychotropic medications, etc. etc.

I have reached these same spiritual states of mind without the use of hallucinogens and they were infinitely more pure. Most Christians today do not understand their own religion, for example the third eye is indeed in line with Christianity, this dates back to the ancient church fathers and a staple of the Orthodox Christian faith. This is the meaning of the passage

"The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"

There's a lot to analyze in this passage, that is, the eye of the heart and the eye of the mind, intellect, and a perfect unison of the two in which "thine eye be single" which now achieves divine illumination, the ability to see the unseen. This same trinitarian concept is repeated all throughout, for example marriage, the male (intellect) the female (heart) and union with God. "of one flesh" this means, of one body, one mind, one soul, a metaphysical and quite literal trinitarian union as we were created in God's image and strive to obtain his likeness. This is the goal and with the wonderful woman God has blessed me with, I believe we will achieve this.

continuing on

"But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"

I believe there is indeed a way in which you may achieve unity of mind and heart and yet be of the enemy, the occult and eastern interpretation of the 'third eye'. That is, not union with God or likeness of God but ascension TO the status of God. Becoming God. If you have ever had association with these circles of people you will know essentially all of them believe they themselves are God, that we are all God, that God is simply "the universe", that we may all become Christ through Christ Consciousness, etc. etc.

For further evidence we can look to Revelation, the mark of the beast

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads"

But there are two marks in the forehead mentioned in Rev

And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

So too, I had trouble reconciling my experiences in the occult and (what I thought) was Christianities outright rejection of all of these practices which I knew to produce results. Meditation, for example, which again is a staple of Christian theology, called contemplative prayer, but with diametrically opposite intents.

In Eastern traditions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Daoism) meditation is usually practiced with the purpose of transcending the mind and attaining enlightenment. On the other hand, in the Christian tradition the goal of contemplative practices is, one may say, moral purification and deeper understanding of the Bible; or a closer intimacy with God/Christ, for the mystic stream of the tradition.

https://www.thewayofmeditation.com.au/blog/contemplative-prayer-and-christian-meditation/

“In the silence of the heart God speaks. If you face God in prayer and silence, God will speak to you. Then you will know that you are nothing. It is only when you realize your nothingness, your emptiness, that God can fill you with Himself. Souls of prayer are souls of great silence.” - Mother Theresa

Here's a great video about it that I found recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0o5J0-8OA0

bb22 ago

I’ve got as much use for religious fundamentalism as I do for faggotry and communism you asshole. The Bible has been butchered all to hell by centuries of corrupt scribes and yet faggots like you still think every word is literal truth when even the Bible itself admits that it’s possible for people to change the scriptures, not like you’d need the Bible to fucking tell you that when so many different versions exist, but fundamentalists tend to have brain damage in this way. I see what you have as a sickness quite frankly, the conservative version of Marxism. Thomas Jefferson and other the founding fathers were infinitely more up to speed on all of this than you are.

Trash_Panda ago

This isn't fundamentalism. This is the Byzantine Orthodox tradition that has been practiced and maintained for 2,000 years. Aside from the fact that the majority of what I said was not literalism at all, do you realize how you sound calling Greek Orthodox theology Protestant? It makes you sound buffoonish like you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about.

not like you’d need the Bible to fucking tell you that when so many different versions exist

Different versions exist for a couple of reasons.

  1. We've actually been able to identify corrupted texts thanks to the vast number of manuscripts that exist. One example, the Dead Sea Scrolls exposed the corrupted Jewish Masoretic texts which were intentionally changed by Jews after the reception of Christianity. This is with one text discovery. One. The New Testament has 5,800 complete manuscripts to compare to.

  2. There is no such thing as a word for word translation. The reason there are so many different versions (aside from intentional attempts to corrupt the texts which, again, are easily identifiable) is because it's a balance between literalism and readability. You have extremely literal translations like the original 1482 Douay-Rheims and then you have some happy balances like the KJV which reads quite poetically.

I see what you have as a sickness

I'm pretty well educated but sure. Anyways, pearls before swine and all. Have a good one.

bb22 ago

maintained for 2,000 years

Bullshit. Culture 2000 years ago was nothing like what it is today, especially in the Greek world. There are no sects I'm aware of that interpret the modern Bible anywhere near the way ancients interpreted their own Bibles. Hell, the Bible didn't even exist 2000 years ago you numbnuts. It took hundreds of years for the church to even agree upon which books to include in it.

I don't need you to explain to me about the Bible either. I go to a religious university and have had to take multiple courses on Bible history and theology, and have studied it on my own time as well in some detail. You might think you've identified corruption in it but in reality the whole fucking book is on its head. The Bible is useful because we need a common morality to hold our society together, and it preserves many pre-Christian European traditions, and it's NOT useful because it's the fucking infallible literal word of God from his throne.

Trash_Panda ago

But somehow you don't know the difference between a Fundamentalist Protestant and an Orthodox Christian? That's an irreconcilable rift in such a rudimentary understanding of Christianity. That's not really the kind of thing where I can just say "oh yea, just a difference of opinion".

bb22 ago

You ARE a fundamentalist nut, and I didn't cite any specific denomination. It doesn't matter what denomination it is, a cult member is a cult member. If you actually believed that God ordered this universe in an intelligent way and had faith in THAT, you wouldn't be quoting the baby raper/kike book as if it has all of life's answers.

Trash_Panda ago

Interesting. And your definition of fundamentalist is what, exactly?

bb22 ago

I use it to mean someone who is very zealous in their thumping of biblical scriptures. I consider myself a spiritual person but I don't go around quoting the Bible like a preacher all the time. Most people don't like that kind of self-righteous shit. And as far as I'm concerned the modern church is Zionist as hell, no pun intended. Especially since the Scofield interpretation of the Bible became popular the whole modern church is extremely Zionist.

Trash_Panda ago

That's still wrong.

So just to recap. You're calling me a brainwashed Bible thumper for beliefs I had prior to ever becoming a Christian, because these concepts were already contained in the Bible? Because that's what my entire post was about.

bb22 ago

No, because you started quoting scripture to me like a legalistic Scofield preacher.

Trash_Panda ago

I explained my journey from the occult into Christianity, how they overlap/differ, why I believe hallucinogens are dangerous and why I consider mysticism to be a mainstay of Christian theology. It's rather surprising you seem to have indicated you 'broke through' on hallucinogens but misinterpret my analysis so profoundly that you consider it the inane ramblings of a street preacher. I'd expect that from an atheist but I expected more of you. I hope you find your way. Cheers.

bb22 ago

Broke through? Broke through what? Don’t put quotes around shit I didn’t say. Not even half quotes.

I was studying Zen Buddhism, Taoism and Hinduism around the time I took mushrooms for the first time. Mushrooms which happen to be a very old shamanic tool. I’ve also studied the occult and have no problem with Christianity per se. But quoting scriptures at people is just tacky as fuck. Not to mention the way you quickly judged me and started these big ass rants when you don’t even know me.

Trash_Panda ago

You'd know what breaking through means if you'd done it (And I would suggest you don't). That's the whole reason I went on that rant, I understand the confusion now.

So the definition of "fundamentalist nut" has now been reduced to 'someone who talks about scripture in any way, which is super tacky'. You probably wouldn't have reacted the same way had I discussed Plato's or Confucius' metaphysics. But Christ got you foaming at the mouth for some reason.

bb22 ago

Oh now you’re preaching enlightenment to me I suppose. You’re a real pompous, self-inflated faggot, high on your own farts. Did you know that?

Trash_Panda ago

I'm not enlightened. I wouldn't want anybody to go through what I went through. But I'd like to help the ones who have.

However, do you know of any sort of religious devotees who go around talking the way you do? That's where I'm coming from. It's all about negative and positive energy. Doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are. They have all universally identified the poisonous nature of toxic energy. The more you do that the more you are blinding yourself from spiritual truths. Hinduism, Gnosticism, Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity, take your pick. I could jump into the fray and get all pissy but like, why? It'd just make me feel like shit. I'm drawing pictures and jamming out. What kind of music do you like?

bb22 ago

Yes, I do actually, and they're all Japanese Zen Buddhists. What I don't consider spiritual at all is people who think things should "look like" this or "sound like" that. If you're after outward appearances then you're a faggot, and we all already know that you are.

Negative and positive energy -- as if you can suppress everything negative in the universe and turn everything into positive. You don't even understand the concept of duality, faggot. Tell me more about Taoism and Hinduism when you don't even understand the most fundamental concepts.

Trash_Panda ago

Yes in fact that's the entire problem with Eastern religions. They're so pacifying that they got steamrolled by ruthless tyrants. This is why tyrants love these cuck religions. That's why China is flipping out about the surge in Christianity. But whatever you say brotha keep spitting venom and telling yourself God smiles upon it. You are very lost. I don't feel there's anything more I can contribute here.

bb22 ago

How can the heads of Zen monasteries be pacifists when they have been known to literally beat monks to death in their monasteries? Have you ever heard of something called World War Two? The Japanese weren't steamrolled, they were a tremendously efficient organized nation fighting western imperialism in Asia. The Japanese are an extremely resilient people and to this day have resisted the Jew much better than your preacher fags. Your God is Jewish. Pray to Yahweh.

Trash_Panda ago

Even if thieves carve you limb from limb with a double-handed saw, if you make your mind hostile you are not following my teaching.

Kamcupamasutta, Majjhima-Nikkaya I ~ 28-29

I think that's pretty clear. And I'm saying they get steamrolled by their own government, check this out. I thought this was an interesting analysis and I believe it's strongly interlinked with religion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origins_of_Political_Order#Three_components_of_political_order

I can't speak too much on Japan yet, my girl is very interested in the subject and she is learning Japanese (she's bilingual) so we'll probably explore that together. I've been working through Europe and China primarily, with emphasis on the Zhou Dynasty and Byzantine Empire. I'm working through this podcast series as well https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/teacup-media/the-china-history-podcast

His (Laszlo Montgomery) main site is down right now but this works. You can also find it on Spotify. My main focus is ancient history and then I'm working my way forward from there. I don't believe there's anything new under the sun, just different manifestations of the same underlying philosophies.

The ancient East and West had a startling number of parallels and yet the West became the leaders of the free world while the West fell off the wagon. I believe it's religion and philosophy which serves as the life blood of any society.

bb22 ago

Agreed about secularism leading to degeneracy. Zen Buddhism is a distinct school from the cuck Buddhism of China.

Ever heard of the Bhagavad Gita? Know what the context of its setting? Remember that Hinduism was the origin of Buddhism.

Japan isolated itself intentionally for centuries. When they were finally forced to open by European/American military technology, they quickly learned how to manufacture such hardware for themselves and defeated the Russian navy soon afterward. There was an interview recently with an anime artist behind a lot of famous Japanese products, including the Pokemon art, and he described the growing Jewish influence in Japan and how Jews were pushing Christianity on them to teach them to be submissive and emotionally guilt-focused rather than the more traditional sense of taking self-responsibility and being pro-active.

If you come across someone familiar with ancient Japanese historical sources, I would be interested in that.

Trash_Panda ago

No I have not. On my list is Japan, India, and then the British Empire. I understand what you're getting at though. That still doesn't make sense to me that any derivative of Buddhism directly contradicts the Buddha's teachings.

I also take serious issue with Christianity being considered submissive and emotionally guilt-focused. The only people I hear saying this are anti-Christians and casual Christians who don't really practice anyways. I mean, to feel guilt for your sins is to deny Jesus' death. True remorse is a rebirth in which the old 'you' has essentially perished. Being submissive is equally sinful because you're actively taking part in other people's damnation by omission. The "I came not to bring peace, but a sword" verse, I strongly relate with this. I will not go into detail but I had my finger on the button to have my brother arrested and forcibly removed. I put a stop to a lot of messed up shit that was taking place in this house and things are better as a result. Love is doing things that suck even if it means everyone hates you, even if it means hurting people. And if you don't have this mentality as a parent then your kids are going to be screwed as well. Submissiveness is the same as hatred.

"He who does not punish evil, commands it to be done." - Leonardo Da Vinci

bb22 ago

Regarding Buddhism, you know there’s no single dominant form right? Some forms don’t consider Buddha a deity at all and Zen seems to fall into that category, since a famous koan prescribes killing the Buddha if you meet him on the road (symbolic of not needing a human form to worship).

Buddhism itself is an offshoot of Hinduism, and you really should read the Bhagavad Gita. A guy is having regrets about being forced into war against a relative’s faction, and then his chariot driver transforms into Krishna and gives him a whole philosophical framework within which to simply do his duty while giving all action up to God’s glory without ego attachment to the immediate results. Hinduism is an extremely rich and varied set of perspectives and about the closest thing to original Aryan religion that hasn’t been fucked by Abrahamic religions.