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ElementalPee ago

This was taken out of context.

And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today, including the simple truth that all men -- and women -- are created equal.

But those ideals have also been tested -- here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by "us" versus "them," or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against.

I think some folks are trying to argue that he was secretly advocating for that since he set it up as if he doesn't agree, but he doesn't actually explicitly reject it. Seems a little far fetched to me but I don't know anything. I'm just a guy.

Edit: here is the full speech

Oh_Well_ian ago

LOL WRONG...

OBAMA'S 8 YEARS WERE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT

He didn't really mean to double the debt and start 5 new wars when he said he would end 2. He didn't really mean you COULDNT KEEP YOUR DOCTOR. He didn't really mean he was going to ignore the will of the people in favor of the arrogant power structure he so stridently aheres to...

gimme a fucking break.. Either he was LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH or HE WASN'T in this speech

WHICH IS IT?

New_FoundingFathers ago

If you wanna defend Obama please go back to spending your time on Reddit dude

Pawn ago

Please go back to reddit if you want to pitchfork with only feelings and no thought.

7e62ce85 ago

Fuck off Voat appreciates the facts and context. We all know Obama believes it, but to say it without proof makes us look stupid.

Oh_Well_ian ago

Do you realize who he is talking to? These cunts get the speeches IN ADVANCE and the language is carefully bookended. They know what the fuck he is saying.

He clearly followed through on his words here and so did the EU. Do they give two shits about the 90% of the EU who don't want Islam taking over their countries?

'Oh... he said nice things... of course he meant them!! ' ' Don't take him out of context!! '

GTFO