The media is pushing this. I don't think he's going to back out of anything.

The problem is that you people are fucking idiots unable to comprehend how to get shit done and break the virtually all powerful establishment monoparty. The nigga is playing 4D chess and you're baited just as easily as libshits who fall for his every move because in reality you're no smarter than them. And so you hang onto his every word like the autistic libshits without realizing that he's talking for effect and the real target of his words is people like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. He's trolling them but because you're so impulsive and retarded you're getting trolled as well. You probably thought Trump dumping Tomahawks on Assad's airfield was MUH BETRAYAL and a start of a war in Syria. You're probably too fucking stupid to understand why Trump brought up DACA now out of nowhere and why he's doing the maneuvers with it that he is. He's playing that retarded game where you need to order 15 squares on a 4 by 4 board by using the empty spot to move them, which results in tons of seemingly random and frivolous and confusing moves.

Your MUH RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS is just cringy larp from the right wing half of fedora edgelords, everyone knows you faggots won't set one foot outside your basements. So far every single instance of RIGHT WING DEATH SQUAD GRRR has been shut down by some ambiguously gendered 18 year old faggot throwing a piss balloon at them. You are literally more pathetic and cucked than Antifa, congratulations, that's not so easy to accomplished.

PS ~ nobody gives a fuck what you want or think you deserve. You have absolutely no power in this country. Trump is literally the only person actually serious about giving you some of what you want.

I really hope I come back and apologize for turning on him. If there is reason to I will admit to it and man up, but I'm getting worried.

Its actually called liberalism.

Patience is a virtue. For him to stay in power he must take baby steps. You can't change too much at once. Or BOOM headshot! Government is a large and old organisation. Lasting effective change is not an overnight task.

Look how they've been isolating him. Then look how you react. Divide & Conquer is so effective. This is a long game. Stop complaining and take action. Make calls, get involved in local/state/all politics, do petitions, protests, articles, whatever. Whining won't get you anywhere.

You sound like a cop.

I didn't read that wall of text, because we at least dodged an administration lead by bill's wife.

Or maybe vote for actual fucking candidates and not lifelont establishment puppets pretending to be fringe. You got tricked with a flashy four word slogan, nice.

Please stop concern trolling. The dude's one third of the government and the other two thirds are pretty dead set against him. Even his own party doesn't have his back. I expect him to get shit done, but he'll also prioritize what he thinks America needs the most and probably sacrifice something eventually to get a bigger ticket item accomplished.

We've seen with the TPP, Paris Accords, and Executive Orders that the dude does what he promised when he has the authority.

I didn't downvoat bud! Someone else did. I am not a sunshine patriot because I am a nationalist and I am for my country and no one else. I didn't say I wouldn't fight, I said I'm not wasting my time anymore with people who are lying to us. I have been told for MONTHS to keep waiting, it's 4-d chess etc.. etc... and guess what, it's been 8 months and I'm still waiting and waiting... things just keep getting worse.

The last year has been about wide-eyed surprise and humor at how fake media has been to drive public opinion to accept ridiculous bullshit. Russia failed as a wedge issue. Nazi racist white supremacist failed as a wedge issue. Charlottesville failed as a wedge issue.

The years of using sensationalism to sell click bait has trained a significant portion of the public to sniff out bullshit and rightfully call out bullshit when bullshit occurs. The media being lazy keeps using the same approaches to bullshit. Eventually, the media may have a sudden fart and realize shifting tactics could be tried. Run headlines of Trump selling out his base and see what happens.

We've learned by now. Headlines are cute, go past them and look at the first hand documentation backing the claim. If it can't be vetted -- bullshit. Being reactionary on headlines alone is how you get taken for a ride. Find yourself the useful idiot marching with Antifa or casting votes for a HC lizard person.

Like thats a fucking great idea, like Dumbo? or HilDog? /s

ALL of his family? You are full of shit. ALL?

My bullshit alarm is off the fucking scale nig

Tell me about your thoughts on Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama OP.

While I agree that completely abandoning campaign promises can divide the base we have to realize that it's about give and take, a process lost on the last Administration. Instead we WERE governed by Executive order, a paralyzed Legislative branch, and at the end a hamstrung Judicial. Wide spread corruption and a powerful Deep State is now the norm. Trump was elected (IMO) because the majority of Americans are tired of the status quo. Not everybody gets everything they want, but realize that change comes slowly and at a price. If this President fails, 2020 provides another opportunity.

His ACTIONS and OWN TWEETS have separated me from him.

America First: Deport all communist Jews and shitskins

"#DraftTheDreamers". I'm in favor of a special program allowing all DACA recipients to obtain full US citizenship...as soon as they enlist in the US armed forces and complete a tour of duty honorably.

Fuck you. He's done more good than ANY other president to date. (In my lifetime) you sound like a shill For even suggesting treason ((impeachment))

Giving the dreamer's amnesty/green cards/citizenship is PERMANENT. There's no way we'd ever fix those 800k+ the several million family members they would import, who would then import even more. The wall could be taken down if it was ever put up.

If Trump kicks the dreamers out and therefore loses dem cooperation on the wall, there still might be a budgetary/republican-only way to get it set up.

EXACTLY. In the DACA instance, people are believing lying liars Pelosi and Schumer and also lying MSM reporting said lies. Let that sink in.

DACA Panic, Backstabbing Politics and Betrayal Hysteria https://www.spartareport.com/2017/09/daca-panic-backstabbing-politics-and-betrayal-hysteria/

President Trump’s supporters inclined to “abandon ship” should remember they are in shark infested waters and constantly under attack. The only viable path to #MAGA is to not take counsel of your fears and to stay the course.

Wednesday night’s specific message from President Trump was a message to Benedict Ryan & Tokyo Rose McConnell and it wasn’t about DACA, it’s about obstructionism and not doing their jobs:

I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.

what about relations with azrael and saudi arabia? i consider positive relations with those countries traitorous.

Martial Law day1, get military onside and round up the traitors. Then start governing. Don't start out by negotiating with traitors. Whatever about dividing his base. He was the better choice. Rubio would have been mildly better than Hillary. But we can bring back jobs, improve infrastructure, reform tax and immigration so they work to benefit the country. Those are all badly needed. But, until the forces that seek to rule are eliminated (and not fucking negotiated with) we may have ten good years, but in 50 years, noone will remember, because the world will be living under communist rule. I dont care about any of the stories, DACA any of that shit on its own. It is the fact that it loooks very much like he is ruling within a corrupt system, rather than removing the corrupting forces and building anew.

So why pointless interject to begin with?

OP is a user of five months into an election that is nine months and a migration that is over a year old. Goats - I question the shit out of this post.

A. shill intentionally trying to divide Voat.

B. Alt username because OP is a cunt and zeros out ccp.

C. OP is just a moron that sits in front of MSN with a spoon knuckle deep into the quart of ice cream.

Additionally many of the replies on this thread are people that have been on Voat a short time and conveniently the same amount of time as OP. And others that have been non existent users til today.

Not today Motherfucker

What if the deal is wall for daca amnesty?

Then the wall means nothing. The demographic shift will take place. The next election will go to a Democrat and the wall will be deconstructed/decommissioned or unsupervised. Did you happen to miss the majority of Trump's campaign where he explicitly spoke of deporting the criminals? That's not something that is tossed away easily.

Why can't you people understand that we needed the wall and the deportations? The latter shouldn't have been a bargaining chip to begin with because these people were federal criminals and all Trump would have needed to do was enforce the fucking wall.

Yes. I get it. Republic. Doesn't justify a fucking thing.

Wah wah wah, people were mean to me, so this guy better do everything he said he would do and everything I want him to do because if not I'm gonna be sooooper saaad.

You are obviously a little troll, but your tactics are childish. Adults know that being the president isn't the same as being the king or being the czar. You can only get done what your political support system (congress, senate, etc.) allow you to get done. Nice try tho. Hope they pay enough for you to make that car payment this month, you little bitch.

Hold your Republican Congressmen and Senators to account. Tell them to support the President or risk being replaced. Every promise he made is deliverable if the Republicans support him.

What do we gain by letting potentially millions of criminals gain citizenship again? Let me remind you that these people will vote against us and on average have many children which will also vote against us.

This wasn't a compromise. It was surrender.

My thoughts on this big orange fuck up.

No more foreign soil wars

Trump wasted no time bombing Syria over an extremely blatant false flag attack. Why? His skank of a daughter cried some tears and Israel demanded he do it. So he did it. This is what has been considered the first of his fuck ups and one of the most significant. It says that he, like his predecessors, is a slave to Israel's warmongering. Though given his step son is one of the most pro-israel jews around this isn't too surprise. Trump is sleeping with the yids and that means he will never truly put America first.

Flip flop

Clinton in prison

We're still in the investigation phase.

The Wall

Walls work. They work very well. Works for Israel and works for Hungary. A wall represents a nation that doesn't want hostile invaders pouring in and a nation that wants to take their safety seriously. Despite what you may believe, Mexico is not a pleasant place and a horrible neighbor. It is a headless wasteland ruled by some of the most ruthless drug cartels you can imagine. It's not just the drug cartels either as many Mexicans feel they are entitled to live in the United States, take any job for the smallest price (this is a very bad thing with a strained economy and shrinking job market) send as much money as they can back home and breed like vermin ensuring not only their own stay but also cementing the stay of their lineage. As it stands Trump's wall is still in the preliminary phase which isn't too surprising as building a wall that large can be very challenging but lately we've been hearing that Trump's "wall" might amount to very little.

But the wall itself isn't quite as important as a rational approach to immigration. So let's move onto the most recent and perhaps most important issue Trump has fucked up on...

DACA and Dreamers

So Obongo imported a lot of unpleasant people during his eight years. Among them are the "dreamers." Loathsome beans that despise the United States but refuse to leave it. They know why they're here. They want free shit. They want to transform the United States into a third world toilet. They commit a considerable amount of crime and our treasonous courts refuse to permanently keep them out as the moment they're "deported" they just run right back in. So along came Trump and pinpointed onto the fact that these creatures need to ejected from our nation as soon as possible - It was a very popular position and attributed to many votes and supporters.

And now, out of nowhere, Trump wants to offer these people what is essentially "amnesty but not amnesty." Let's be clear here - The longer these people are allowed to stay, the more likely they will be granted citizenship. Trump bending to the left here is something so outrageous that not even I expected it. This amnesty-but-not-amnesty plan is the furthest thing from "Make America Great Again" you could ever imagine.

Flip flop

Whites

This one is a bit unrelated but it's something I think needs to be mentioned. Did you know the conservative party only exists because white people are the majority in this country? Well, now you do. All those years you saw the GOP pleading their case that nonwhites (particularly hispanics) can be convinced to vote conservatively? Those were lies. Regardless of what you feel about race you're going to have to live with the fact that without white people, conservatism itself does't exist in this country. This means that if millions of hispanics are allowed to freely enter the country and breed like rats (which they do) it represents a distinct threat towards not only the right wing party but also white people as nonwhites have historically demonstrated how eager they are to harm/punish whites should whites become a minority.

So did you guys hear about that Charlottesville thing? Let me try to sum it up - A bunch of right wing groups (quite a lot actually) each with differing views decided to gather for a march. They went through all the legal venues necessary and acquired the proper permits. This march was protesting against the tearing down of statues of confederates. Those marching weren't all southern mind you in fact most of them weren't, they simply know that tearing down statues and defacing history because uppity shitskins and leftists getting upset about isn't a good thing. The first night of the march went very well, there was minimal violence and a healthy turn out but as soon as dawn hit things got hectic.

The commies and paid for rioters that make up Antifa had arrived and given that Charlottesville is blue territory, the mayor and police chief ordered their men to stand down so predictably violence ensued and some of the leaders of the right wing groups allege that the police purposely herded them into groups of violent commies which isn't rare behavior as such happened to a Pro-Trump rally in San Jose back during the election. People on both sides were getting hurt and it culminated in a schizophrenic in a car plowing through a group of commies severely injuring some people. One of the people hit, some fat degenerate whore, sustained wounds that eventually caused her to suffer a heart attack - Yes, contrary to what shitlibs have told you, Heather Heyer died of a heart attack, not of being hit by a car. - This death stirred an outcry about the left. It's now their immediate go-to whenever discussing right wing violence (as they ignore the leagues of left wing violence that can be witnessed) and now they continue to use it as means to not let white nationalists exist.

White nationalism is very important. It is reflective of the what the founding fathers themselves desired from their nation as indicated by their own naturalization acts. Naturally, in a society that is deeply anti-white and ruled by a foreign tribe that wants nothing more than white extinction, the concept of modern day white nationalism is blasphemy. White nationalists saw that Trump represented a chance at returning the USA to the demographic it was meant to stay (and in essence the only way to keep conservatism alive in the country) as well as avoid living in a future where they're a hated minority in a nation their forefathers had built. So it's safe to say that most white nationalists put their vote down for Trump.

So what did Trump do in response to Charlottesville? He played middle man. "There was fault on both sides." There wasn't but hey, we can't go expecting Trump to actually call out whose at fault right? That'd be too much. Now it would end there if Trump wasn't willing to toss his core under the bus a second time which he did by signing a resolution, cosigned by 100 senators, condemning "white supremacy" AKA white advocacy.

Closing

I have little faith in Trump anymore and I have to wonder how anyone else that isn't a retarded civic nationalists still holds any hope for him. The most important promises he has made have been broken and the subtle ways he's dismissed/ignored/castigated whites is unforgivable.

Civil war is the only cure for the (((problem))) that ails us

If we cannot win by ballots, then we will be forced to resort to bullets. What people don't realize is that right wing violence is far more destructive than left wing violence. The antifa kids will look like hindu cows compared to what will happen if Trump betrays the right.

But is Trump a Jew? Maybe his whore kid is but he isnt!

Im not gonna lie.... Fuck it bring it. Liberal cucks, and antifa bitches dont scare me. Honestly I hope for a World changing event, Asteroid, super volcano etc. Libcuckswill be the first to die off.

Trump train NO MATTER WHAT! I wont listen to fake news media BS! I'M ON THE TRAIN 100% FUCK you shills trying to fuck up his base!

Exactly. The moment we begin to blindly support this man is when its over. Abstaining from criticism and action because we're turning politics into team sports is retarded. The second Trump reneges on his campaign promises, we need to be burning our MAGA hats in front of him.

Kushner already has teams in place quashing dissent. "r/The_Donald" plays the "hurr durr we're being brigaded MAGAPEDES hurr durr" Narrative; and 4Chan PTG immediately goes into "anyone who isn't blindly sucking Trump's dick is a Sharia Blue Shill".

Hold the President accountable. Retake your government.

He is far from perfect but for the foreseeable future it is still best to present a united front. Don't fall for divide and conquer tactics.

We have learned a lot about what a President is up against since the last election that we didn't know before. I believe Trump is doing all he can possibly do and still stay alive. It's easy to expect perfection when you're on the outside looking in. Give him time and your support. He needs our support.

Fuckthevileaether president 2020. Thank you for your post. You said what is in our heads and in our hearts. It's nice to not be alone.

Trump needs to call on the American people to come to Washington and reimpose the rule of law and the constitution. Arrest Congress and call for elections. I would back him in a minute.

Too late. He already bombed the shit out of Syria.

Syria is not our problem. The Middle East can go fuck itself. Let Israel burn.

It took me longer than it should have to finally realize it but he won't be able to do anything. Either because of those around him influencing him and going against him or because he is just there to soothe tensions with the normies who just want to be left alone.

I'm just waiting for this all to come to a head. Between the attacks in Europe and the erosion of the white population in North America I wouldn't be surprised if underground militias have formed by now just waiting for their opportunity to make the French and Russian Revolutions look like a walk in the park.

He need to suspend the constitution and start slaughtering people .

I've noticed an organized effort to reduce Trump's base lately. He keeps having to fight off fake news attacks about his core issues, but his supporters see the fake headline and react. They're going to get frustrated as he is forced to negotiate down from his initial offers. This is political reality no matter who is the president. Hold him to his word, but don't pretend he is the supreme ruler. He can't do much alone as proved by most of Obama's EO's being deleted. You have to use congress to make lasting change.

I'm willing to give him longer than 6 months. The swamp is massive and the group that wants him to fail is even larger. This is going to take awhile. I'm also a patient soul.

Amen.

• Soap
• Ballot
• Jury        <-- We are here
• Ammo

Amen

Deport the ~700,000 illegal convicted felons

Threaten to Immedietely suspend DACA unless the dems agree to share state prison data with the feds allowing ICE to come get them, The deportation busses could start rolling those worthless fucks out tomorrow if he was a boss and was willing to go nuclear. Make the democrats justify protecting convicted felons over the so called "dreamers".