Yesterday, after this debacle, I added a rule about Comment Abuse for the sake of clarity.
The Voat User Agreement requires us all to Respect Other Users, both their privacy and their freedom of speech. People who work hard on their research submissions shouldn't have their work overshadowed, their free speech suppressed, and the discussion of their submission derailed by off-topic rants, flame wars or copypasta spam in the Comment section. It's not right.
This has actually been in place for several months under Voat's Sitewide Rules. If you check the banlog, you will see that Putt added the Voat User Agreement to the rule violations list moderators can cite some time ago, and Donkey and his many alts were banned for comment abuse under that -- at the request of multiple users -- after he impersonated another user to discredit her research. TrustTheTruth was also banned for comment abuse under the Voat UA spam clause because he spammed the same longwinded, evidence-free rants over and over again, regardless of the submission topic.
It's now spelled out in our sidebar. Thoughts?
Edit: Link to banlog fixed.
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Piscina ago
Do you mean abuse like this:
Or this:
Or maybe this:
By your own standards, both of these mods should be banned. Here's another one:
Vindicator ago
Well, the UA simultaneously, in the same clause, states "Respect Other Users" and this "is not intended to abridge the fair use or the expressive rights shared by us all."
One could argue that colorful language and insults fall under "expressive rights" and usually don't rise to the level of abusing the Comment section to derail submissions. I would say it's a matter of degree. If someone stalks you and shits up all or a majority of posts you make so that you can't submit research in this subverse, then they should face consequences. Likewise if they subvert Voat's inbuilt safeguard against this -- downvotes -- by using multiple alt accounts to derail submissions.
Under a Comment Abuse rule, I would warn and then ban any account who could be shown to be doing that.
Piscina ago
That's hilarious because we all know that you would use your self-made 'respect others users' rule to ban anyone who called Crayzie or Crunsch a 'cunt'. Hypocrisy is transparent.
Vindicator ago
What evidence do you have to that leads you to believe this? I've never done any such thing.
NoBS ago
As soon as we link proof you have the ability to delete another post. Why make it easier for you to get your freak on? Your arrogance has moved into ODC if not malicious intent.
Vindicator ago
I've always had the ability to delete posts, and I have never abused it. Your comment makes no sense.
NoBS ago
Really? Controlling the narrative with abuse of power requires destruction of evidence and disposable trust.
Narcissist much?
Abuse of power requires zero self control. Which is why the lack of impulse control makes ones reaction predictable.
Did you steal that quote with guilt or contempt? Because you sure shit have not earned it from the massive deletions and intimidation (AKA God_Mod complex) infringed upon pizzagate.
Do the mods really believe that your censorship did not destroy the pizzagate community?
You folks are still on a power trip with at a drama queen level that can make Reddit green with envy. Sure, the mods here pretend to be shocked that some called you out before giving up.
Well, I hope got folks got at least 30 pieces of silver each for destroying the information flow. Because you earned it.
Yet the denial at this level has moved beyond absurdity and into calculated malicious intent. It's like you don;t even pretend to hide it.
Vindicator ago
Show me my "massive deletions" and "intimidation". I think you have me confused with someone else.
NOMOCHOMO ago
It would help if you fixed your ban log link.
It's still: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/manage/bans/
we aren't managers, big guy
plebian link:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/about/log/banned
Vindicator ago
No massive deletions or intimidation? Fake narrative.
NOMOCHOMO ago
Oops, my mistake....
https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3436360/20668084
why don't you correct the link?
Vindicator ago
Done. Not so easy when out and about and modding by phone, Nomo. Besides, you've been harping on it, and it's in the sidebar.
Got anything else you want to make nefarious innuendos about?
Lemme see...Voat was down this morning...must be an attempt to prevent people from voicing their discontent because I'm cahoots with Putt's angel investor, amirite?
NOMOCHOMO ago
six days of replies.
Vindicator ago
And only 229 views, for a subverse of 23,092 subscribers. You seem eager for me to take this down. Don't you want people to have a chance to comment?
NOMOCHOMO ago
I wanted you to fix the broken link in your post.
If I had a broken link in a post, you think ya'll would let it slide?
NOMOCHOMO ago
@shewhomustbeobeyed