Yesterday, after this debacle, I added a rule about Comment Abuse for the sake of clarity.
The Voat User Agreement requires us all to Respect Other Users, both their privacy and their freedom of speech. People who work hard on their research submissions shouldn't have their work overshadowed, their free speech suppressed, and the discussion of their submission derailed by off-topic rants, flame wars or copypasta spam in the Comment section. It's not right.
This has actually been in place for several months under Voat's Sitewide Rules. If you check the banlog, you will see that Putt added the Voat User Agreement to the rule violations list moderators can cite some time ago, and Donkey and his many alts were banned for comment abuse under that -- at the request of multiple users -- after he impersonated another user to discredit her research. TrustTheTruth was also banned for comment abuse under the Voat UA spam clause because he spammed the same longwinded, evidence-free rants over and over again, regardless of the submission topic.
It's now spelled out in our sidebar. Thoughts?
Edit: Link to banlog fixed.
view the rest of the comments →
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
This is silly. All this over a mistake. Are you going to drop this rule?
Do you remember when I shitted up that post that neonrevolting tried to hijack? That was resubmitted without the drama. Neon stayed away, and I stayed away.
There are already ways submitters can censor the comments in their own posts without mods censoring users free speech.
Vindicator ago
Sure. If the majority of regular contributors don't want it. I disagree that it's silly or that it's "all over a mistake". This has been an issue for a very, very long time, one that the physical platform previously offered no mechanism to address. With the addition of the User Agreement to the ban and removal interfaces, it now becomes possible and should be discussed.
I do indeed. @Darkknight111's work was completely trashed, his meme campaign momentum was lost, and several of us had to deal with an inbox blizzard. He was ultimately forced to delete his post and resubmit it -- losing any relevant comments and all the original momentum. This would prevent exactly that kind of shitstorm from overtaking people's hard work in the future.
Also, Neon did not "stay away". He was downvoted into the negatives by an organized vote brigade, which permanently disabled his account when DK self-deleted.
This is an interesting observation. Unfortunately, the only way a submitter can censor comments is to self delete the entire submission (a huge, demoralizing act of self-censorship of real, evidence based content), and even that doesn't work if they have been marked for targeting, as @argosciv was by ES and his sock puppet brigade.
Perhaps, as someone who does not contribute content and only participates by commenting in other people's submissions, this seems like a fair sacrifice to you. Try looking at it from the OP's point of view.
Why can't users who want free speech just make their own submission?
ESOTERICshade ago
No bitch, I specifically argued with your ass for trying to make v/pizzagate the new home of Qfullofshitanon. You put v/pizzagate on life support with your bullshit and I pulled v/pizzagate from the building you almost set on fire.
Now you fucking up AGAIN and making you some "new rules." You got your ass kicked in this thread and obviously people don't want your "new rules." You don't learn very fast do you?
And that little blood drinking bastard argosciv does not deserve my respect.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I'm really sick and tired of your bullshit, ES. When that khazarian witch created GA, she took 80% of the PG researchers with her.
She then proceeds to feed them lies and porn to stroke their egos while binding them in a enigma called politics as usual.
They stopped swallowing the red pills and started whorshiping the DEEP STATE in its new form.
YOU HELPED HER DO THAT
YOU FECKLESS. FUCKING. CUNT.
well done ES
🐍
ESOTERICshade ago
And I will say something else. @think- was the only other person with a godamn brain that cared enough to try to help. I appreciate what you do but nobody fought off their Qanon bullshit as hard as me. They tried to invade pizzagate and I was not not fucking having it. If the dumbasses went to the Qanon side of universe, then good riddance to the stupid mother fuckers. Its too bad @vindicator and @crensch didn't go with them. Oh wait.....@shizie (srayzie) let crensch steal her sub. That bitch, srayzie, is dumber than a box of rocks. She proved that.
Shizie ago
Hahahahaha you senile old fuck still spreading your bullshit and lies I see! You know full well I'm not Srayzie, but you're such a weak little man that you'll lie your ass off if you think it can score you some points and favor with someone who hates Srayzie!
ESOTERICshade ago
In spite of what you did, srayzie, I still don't hate you. In order for me to hate you, It would require me to give an actual fuck. I'm no there yet so maybe I should try harder?
Shizie ago
Oh just stop you old fool!
ESOTERICshade ago
Srayzie, we can go further if you insist.
VoatSecrets ago
You are close @esotericSHADE and she does have access. We know who shizy is and there are others involved. @thewebofslime knows more than they should.
They were all exposed by The Truth. So was Q.
Who is the coward that mentioned @TrustTheTruth early this morning and then deleted the comment?
Why is Srayzie's Soul irredeemable? Who is The Whore of Babylon? Why did Srayzie betray Jenny Moore as Judas betrayed Jesus?
What is The Truth Jenny found in Racine?
Why is Voat closed to the public with no registrations allowed and changing the rules all because of @TrustTheTruth?
Shizie ago
Shit alt! Blocked!
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
So you're not taking credit for helping set up GA anymore? That's funny!!!
You're boring, ES.
ESOTERICshade ago
If you call running Qanon and srayzie the fuck out of v/pizzagate, which I yes absolutely did, "settting up GA" then I guess you never under understood my original intentions. All I wanted was for the Qanon dumbasses to get their dumbasses the fuck out fo pizzagate. Its not my fault that srayzie went and set up a Qanon sub. I had nothing to do with that.
Shizie ago
Is that why up until two months ago you were frantically PMing and emailing Srayzie with you "please talk to me baby girl" nonsense, cause you ran her off pizzzagate?
You're a punk and a liar!
ESOTERICshade ago
Actually I didn't run YOU off pizzagate. You left pizzagate on your own. I just wanted Full Of Shit Qanon gone from pizzagate. I understand that you were a believer and I am sorry you got decieved, Suzie, but shit is what it is. I really don't have anything against you, but I trie to teach you. You didn't listen.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I seem to recall @Vindicator and myself having a giggle over how you were all puffed up about how you worked and slaved to help her set that up.
I guess I'm wrong again. Oh well, you're still boring.
ESOTERICshade ago
I agree that I am boring these days. I stay away because of @crensch I'm cool with @vindicator because vindicator is civil and respectful. crensch pretty much destroyed the culture at v/pizzagate and i'm not sure how we can rid of that mother fucker but he is the most hated person on Voat.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I'm done with all three of you.
ESOTERICshade ago
@piscina has this shit figured out. Piscina is a pretty good person to follow. Just sayin.....
https://voat.co/u/piscina/comments
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
You are hopeless. And @piscina won't answer my questions, just like the thot.
You can both answer the questions I've asked you in the past, or fuck-off. I do not care anymore.
ESOTERICshade ago
I don't remember helping her. If I did it was a huge fuck up on my part. I don't think I did. There was a time when a small group of us were testing the Voat functions to determine how everything works. Its very slightly possible that I gave her instructions on how to set up a sub but I seriously doubt it.
ESOTERICshade ago
No shit sherlock.
No shit Sherlock.
No shit Sherlock. Why you think I fought against the Qanon bullshit so hard? I fought her and Vindicator every step of the way. I didn't want their fake Qanon bullshit in v/pizzagate. Pizzagate was a cool place to hang out until @vindicator decided to pollute it with his Qanon bullshit.
How exactly did I help that bitch? Explain that? I fought against the Qanon shit from day one because anybody with a mind as big as a grain of salt knew that Qanon is bullshit. That bitch sent her titties to @kevdude, @vindicator, and @crensch, and told them I did it.
Fuck srayzie and the horse she rode in on.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
You mollycoddled and placated, all the while fapping away to her larp. The people who still have scales on their eyes can't help but be blind, you knew better.
You've been nothing but a smooth talking snake, since you first made this alt.
I am wholeheartedly ashamed of you.
Not that you care, but I am.
ESOTERICshade ago
That crazy bitch is just a person I knew on the internet. Nothing more.
This ain't no damn alt. This is me, speaking for me. You know that.
Actually I do care, I care a lot, just like you care. Thats why I keep checking in here from time to time, in spite of @crensch huge asshole little fits.