Potentially she could have been reinstated after the 24 hour policy, which seemed to be tailored perfectly to Jem's style of post and would have prevented her ban entirely in the first place.
In any case, whatever her findings are, I can guarantee they are posted here when they get released, and I can guarantee they won't be deleted. From now on, her investigative work and legacy should be undisputable and never be forgotten.
Thanks for the awareness you raised back then, I see there were numerous pleas from community members to get the ban overturned. Here is a post from Jem777 explaining herself after the ban: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2210356.
I am not a regular here but wonder how it would have been possible for Jem to get herself unbanned? It does not matter that she could use ALT, the principal question is what more she/community could have done to get the decision overturned? It seems that MOD exercised highest power as soon as he could excuse it (RULES!) and there is no mechanism to get it overturned no matter what? Perhaps we should suggest some sort of ban appeal process to Voat?
The effect of a permanent ban to Jem777 has been a GREAT loss of shared/documented reaserch to /v/pizzagate no doubt.
The effect of a permanent ban to Jem777 has been a GREAT loss of shared/documented reaserch to /v/pizzagate no doubt.
Please cite evidence of this. The reason first Falcon and then I banned Jem was because she adamantly refused to post her research. She made numerous claims, but would provide nothing to back them up. Falcon banned her first. I unbanned her and tried to help her make posts that would satisfy the submission rules because the community requested we do so. She still refused to present links to sources supporting her claims, or desist from making the claims in the first place on the main board. I had no choice but to reban her. Even one of our O's at the time, @VictorSteinerDaviontried to get her to post appropriately. No one wanted to ban her.
Instead of taking responsibility for her own behavior, Jem played the victim card and proceeded to stir up numerous other users claiming mods were corrupt and censoring her. She organized a complaint campaign involving multiple users in an effort to get herself reinstated, even though she knew we were more than happy to reinstate her account if she willingly respected the submission rules. That right there should be a clue she was not completely on the up and up. She wanted to be able to post without having the rules apply to her. Totally unfair to serious researchers who give evidence for their claims, the whole purpose of the board. Wasn't going to happen. Why other users couldn't see they were being manipulated, I still don't understand.
Interestingly, as far as I know, none of the users she recruited to get her account reinstated complained to v/pizzagate owners at the time @Crensch and @VictorSteinerDavion or to @kevdude mod at v/ProtectVoat to overrule mods for overstepping or misadministering the rules.
Falcon banned her first. I unbanned her and tried to help her make posts that would satisfy the submission rules because the community requested we do so. She still refused to present links to sources supporting her claims, or desist from making the claims in the first place on the main board. I had no choice but to reban her. Even one of our O's at the time, @VictorSteinerDavion tried to get her to post appropriately. No one wanted to ban her.
Why other users couldn't see they were being manipulated, I still don't understand.
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Chiken-lover_Hater ago
Yes, he should remain a mod in my opinion - even though I was the one who made the post two months later appealing the ban (obviously on the other account.) Whilst I feel like the ban was unnecessary, Jem still had another account to post on and was not prohibited from posting on v/pizzagatewhatever or v/whatever at any time.
Potentially she could have been reinstated after the 24 hour policy, which seemed to be tailored perfectly to Jem's style of post and would have prevented her ban entirely in the first place.
In any case, whatever her findings are, I can guarantee they are posted here when they get released, and I can guarantee they won't be deleted. From now on, her investigative work and legacy should be undisputable and never be forgotten.
Z14 ago
Thanks for the awareness you raised back then, I see there were numerous pleas from community members to get the ban overturned. Here is a post from Jem777 explaining herself after the ban: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2210356.
I am not a regular here but wonder how it would have been possible for Jem to get herself unbanned? It does not matter that she could use ALT, the principal question is what more she/community could have done to get the decision overturned? It seems that MOD exercised highest power as soon as he could excuse it (RULES!) and there is no mechanism to get it overturned no matter what? Perhaps we should suggest some sort of ban appeal process to Voat?
The effect of a permanent ban to Jem777 has been a GREAT loss of shared/documented reaserch to /v/pizzagate no doubt.
Vindicator ago
Please cite evidence of this. The reason first Falcon and then I banned Jem was because she adamantly refused to post her research. She made numerous claims, but would provide nothing to back them up. Falcon banned her first. I unbanned her and tried to help her make posts that would satisfy the submission rules because the community requested we do so. She still refused to present links to sources supporting her claims, or desist from making the claims in the first place on the main board. I had no choice but to reban her. Even one of our O's at the time, @VictorSteinerDavion tried to get her to post appropriately. No one wanted to ban her.
Here is the final post that led to the ban: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2210029
Instead of taking responsibility for her own behavior, Jem played the victim card and proceeded to stir up numerous other users claiming mods were corrupt and censoring her. She organized a complaint campaign involving multiple users in an effort to get herself reinstated, even though she knew we were more than happy to reinstate her account if she willingly respected the submission rules. That right there should be a clue she was not completely on the up and up. She wanted to be able to post without having the rules apply to her. Totally unfair to serious researchers who give evidence for their claims, the whole purpose of the board. Wasn't going to happen. Why other users couldn't see they were being manipulated, I still don't understand.
Interestingly, as far as I know, none of the users she recruited to get her account reinstated complained to v/pizzagate owners at the time @Crensch and @VictorSteinerDavion or to @kevdude mod at v/ProtectVoat to overrule mods for overstepping or misadministering the rules.
think- ago
This.