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think- ago

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User @Tazzermalt posted a pic without sources as a link post, alludes to organ trafficking in headline without evidence.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2502321

Tazzermalt ago

HERE YOU GO YOU STUPID FUCKING DICKHEAD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks pizzagate conspiracy? Also a question some world wide church involved? i know you fuckwits deleted tons of shit abuse connections on Vegas, India, Africa, S.America and the Middle East ...a movie even exposed this recently South Africa’s first medical thriller hits at the heart of illegal organ donation. Shane Vermooten, “The message in Bypass is clear: Human organ and tissue trafficking is real. It’s a reality that stalks the desperation and vulnerability of people – across the economics of wealth of poor. “From the outset of creating Bypass I had three concepts that I wasn’t willing to compromise on. Bypass was going to be in English, it was going to be a thriller and the protagonist had to be a strong female of colour. During our writing process we came across an organ trafficking case where more than 100 illegal operations had taken place in one of our national hospitals. The World Health Organisation estimated in 2007 that of the global transplants that take place, up to 10% were conducted illegally. In 2011, it was established that the black-market human organ and tissue traded generated illicit profits of up to USD 1.2-billion each year. The illegal organ trade markets is an ever-present threat to national legitimised organ donation systems and further erodes public confidence in organ transplantation across the globe. and more http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html South Africa!! The dark world of internet kidney trafficking https://www.health24.com/Medical/Kidney-and-bladder/News/The-dark-world-of-internet-kidney-trafficking-20150225 South Africa has its own scandal involving illegal kidney transplants (see below) and the internet has become a powerful tool for those willing to let go of a kidney for a price.

People in urgent need of organs are often not in a position to wait in the long donor queues, so some have taken to the black market and online traders to source the organ they so desperately need to survive. On the other side, desperately poor people are offering their kidneys for sale and, as Shaun Swingler finds out for Health24, the only winners are the scammers in the middle.

Read: Should you have the right to sell your organs for profit?

It’s easy to think of the illegal organ trade as existing only in movies but that is not the case. Some 5-10% of organ transplants worldwide are undertaken with criminal intent, according to the World Trade Organisation. And while the reality may not necessarily be that of a victim waking up in a bath full of ice with a stitched-up cut down their side, the real story is not very far off.

According to a report by the United Nations, illegal organ trafficking is an organised crime involving a host of players: a recruiter who identifies the vulnerable person, the desperate seller, the organ transporter, hospital or clinic staff and medical professionals, middlemen and contractors, buyers and organ banks where the organs are stored.

Trading in organs occurs in three broad categories:

  • The first scenario involves traffickers forcing or tricking victims into giving up their organs.

  • Secondly victims formally or informally agree to sell an organ and are then cheated by not being paid (or being paid less than promised) and,

  • Thirdly vulnerable persons – such as migrants, homeless or the illiterate – are treated for an ailment which may or may not exist and their organs are removed without their knowledge.

Organ trafficking is increasingly going hand-in-hand with human trafficking. In September 2014 an Italian police investigation revealed that a gang of human traffickers accepted migrants’ organs as payment for smuggling them to Europe from northern Africa, and in 2006 the Mozambican Human Rights League revived claims that trafficking in human organs is done not through exporting the organs themselves, but through the trafficking of children.

‘Bury them alive!’: White South Africans fear for their future as horrific farm attacks escalate

NEARLY every day, horrific acts of rape, torture and murder are carried out on a community under siege. WARNING: Graphic. http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/bury-them-alive-white-south-africans-fear-for-their-future-as-horrific-farm-attacks-escalate/news-story/3a63389a1b0066b6b0b77522c06d6476

Kidneys and livers are highest in demand of all organs. In the case of human kidneys, where there’s a worldwide average asking price of US$5 000 (±R58 000) per kidney, there’s a ready market of people willing to sell. South African hospital firm admits 'cash for kidney' transplants https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/10/south-africa-hospital-organ-trafficking South Africa's biggest private hospital group has admitted receiving R3.8m (£342,000) from an illegal organ trafficking syndicate in a scam that included the removal of kidneys from five children.

Netcare, which also runs hospitals in Britain, took part in an international scam that allegedly saw poor Brazilians and Romanians paid $6,000 (£3,840) for their kidneys to be transplanted to wealthy Israelis.

At the Durban regional court yesterday, Netcare KwaZulu (NKZ) pleaded guilty on 102 counts relating to illegal operations between June 2001 and November 2003. It was fined R7,820,000 (£704,000).

Police said these included five counts of "unlawfully acquiring and transplanting human kidneys by acquiring kidneys from five minors in law at the time the kidneys were transplanted". Netcare admitted that some of the kidney donors were "minors" but there were no details of the children's ages or nationalities.

The group made a plea bargain in which criminal charges against the parent company, Netcare, and its chief executive, Richard Friedland, were unconditionally withdrawn.

The transplants took place at one of South Africa's top hospitals, Netcare St Augustine's in Durban. In September the Times of South Africa cited a charge sheet that read: "Israeli citizens in need of kidney transplants would be brought to South Africa for transplants at St Augustine's hospital. They paid kidney suppliers for these operations."

Kidneys "were initially sourced from Israeli citizens, but later Romanian and Brazilian citizens were recruited as their kidneys were obtainable at much lower cost than those of the Israeli suppliers."

think- ago

@Tazzermalt, the reason your post was deleted was not that I or anyone of the other mods are don't believe that there is not organ trade in South Africa.

The reason was that unsourced pics are regarded as spam, and that - since it was a link post - your claims also were not sourced.

@Vindicator

Tazzermalt ago

You accused me of being a Shill then I FUCKING ACCUSE YOU SIR from all the posts and news you deleted on abuse

think- ago

I didn't say you were a shill, I said you posted spam. This thread is for recording spams, that's why I added the deleted submission here.

I suggest you calm down, take a break, and write a discuss post about the topic, as I have already suggested elsewhere.

If you're not sure whether it might adhere to the rules, you can post it to v/pizzagatewhatever first, and then ping mods in to look at the post, before you crosspost it to v/pizzagate.

@Vindicator @srayzie