More solid, tangibly connected leads have a bad habit of getting ignored and/or buried for the latest "YOUTUBE GUY IS A DISINFO OP SHILL GUY", "JOOS!", "LOOK AT THIS CREEPY SATANIST SHIT" and, of course, the ever-popular "OMFG FBI OFFICIAL PEDO LOGO LOOK!" (generi-swirl, no valid info found suggesting business is involved in anything nefarious).
Which I wouldn't be as fed up about, if it weren't that certain people are getting drawn into these threads and can't seem to resist the urge to go at each other's throats for having a different opinion. "Oh, you don't completely agree with me? SHILL! SHILL!" FFS. It's like when IDPol obsessed lefties scream SEXIST and RACIST at everything they see. You can only cry wolf so often before people stop listening.
And how many of them actually are shills trying to poison the place? No telling, because the Voat site itself, in its infinite wisdom, does not have an IP ban option (from what I understand). So shills can just keep spawning new accounts and spewing shit freely.
Overall, I have been following Voat less and less. Too many divisive, infighting jackasses sniping at each other in stupid threads about nothing. Pretty sad state of affairs.
I would urge the mods to consider setting up new, more relaxed guidelines for the community to vote on. Leads are drying up, and it's leaving the people here stir crazy. This leads to lower-quality posts, more mod takedowns because they forgot to explain something in a good lead, and, of course, the unintended kick to morale. Even worse, when a ding to morale is amplified to everyone else by the person who feels slighted by a mod, and just HAS to warn the world (VOAT COMPROMISED! MODS ARE ALL SHILLS! TOOK DOWN MY POST!).
This should be a place for sourced leads and reasoned discussion on raising awareness (in one place), not for barking and yiping about who's a disnfo agent op spooky face.
I can hear Brock/Podesta/Soros now:
"Oh no! They've got a place for sourced leads and reasoned discussion on raising awareness (in one place) called Voat!
"Get the troll team in there to bark and yipe about who's a disinfo agent op spooky face so no one can think straight!"
I expect them on this very thread. but like i said earlier, we are too smart for this. This place has attracted some of the sharpest minds i've seen on the internet. I think the key is to assess, and recognize what we're dealing with, and to go from there. If we need a brand new sub for focussed research, then we should push and not give up until we get one. If it has to be done on a different forum, that will become clear to us in time, and i'm sure we can make that happen. We need to really get clear about what shilling looks like, and not be scared to see it for what it is. Playing nice, choosing to be polite over honest, and never mentioning the elephant in the room is exactly how they've infiltrated us so easily.
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nomorepepperoni ago
More solid, tangibly connected leads have a bad habit of getting ignored and/or buried for the latest "YOUTUBE GUY IS A DISINFO OP SHILL GUY", "JOOS!", "LOOK AT THIS CREEPY SATANIST SHIT" and, of course, the ever-popular "OMFG FBI OFFICIAL PEDO LOGO LOOK!" (generi-swirl, no valid info found suggesting business is involved in anything nefarious).
Which I wouldn't be as fed up about, if it weren't that certain people are getting drawn into these threads and can't seem to resist the urge to go at each other's throats for having a different opinion. "Oh, you don't completely agree with me? SHILL! SHILL!" FFS. It's like when IDPol obsessed lefties scream SEXIST and RACIST at everything they see. You can only cry wolf so often before people stop listening.
And how many of them actually are shills trying to poison the place? No telling, because the Voat site itself, in its infinite wisdom, does not have an IP ban option (from what I understand). So shills can just keep spawning new accounts and spewing shit freely.
Overall, I have been following Voat less and less. Too many divisive, infighting jackasses sniping at each other in stupid threads about nothing. Pretty sad state of affairs.
I would urge the mods to consider setting up new, more relaxed guidelines for the community to vote on. Leads are drying up, and it's leaving the people here stir crazy. This leads to lower-quality posts, more mod takedowns because they forgot to explain something in a good lead, and, of course, the unintended kick to morale. Even worse, when a ding to morale is amplified to everyone else by the person who feels slighted by a mod, and just HAS to warn the world (VOAT COMPROMISED! MODS ARE ALL SHILLS! TOOK DOWN MY POST!).
This should be a place for sourced leads and reasoned discussion on raising awareness (in one place), not for barking and yiping about who's a disnfo agent op spooky face.
Just my very long 2c.
V____Z ago
I can hear Brock/Podesta/Soros now: "Oh no! They've got a place for sourced leads and reasoned discussion on raising awareness (in one place) called Voat!
"Get the troll team in there to bark and yipe about who's a disinfo agent op spooky face so no one can think straight!"
Done.
Forgetmenot ago
Exactly they are organizing as we speak.
V____Z ago
I expect them on this very thread. but like i said earlier, we are too smart for this. This place has attracted some of the sharpest minds i've seen on the internet. I think the key is to assess, and recognize what we're dealing with, and to go from there. If we need a brand new sub for focussed research, then we should push and not give up until we get one. If it has to be done on a different forum, that will become clear to us in time, and i'm sure we can make that happen. We need to really get clear about what shilling looks like, and not be scared to see it for what it is. Playing nice, choosing to be polite over honest, and never mentioning the elephant in the room is exactly how they've infiltrated us so easily.