I've followed @Mil_Spec on Twitter ever since he reported on the mysterious Special Operations "training" raid in LA on the Guatemalan House of Culture a couple years ago. He's a very dedicated aircraft observer (aka "plane fag"). He frequently reports on patterns of military aircraft activity -- how many birds are up, what types, what they may be doing, interesting call signs, and anomalies to usual training operations.
Today he published a piece on his website presenting data that leads him to believe Maxwell was actually taken to GITMO by U.S. Marshalls. Have a look. It's pretty interesting.
https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/get-maxwell-just-as-i-suspected
https://archive.vn/AgL6J
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FairbairnSykes77 ago
This is false. In order for her (or any citizen) to be tried by a military court she would need to be declared an “enemy combatant” per the Law of Armed Conflict. Further according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice:
“In a time of declared war or a contingency operation, persons serving with or accompanying armed forces in the field...”
HR-6166 signed by GWB in 2006 further clarifies tribunals are exclusive for violations of the laws of war”
Nothing in the charging instrument comes anywhere close to this for Maxwell. She can only, ONLY be tried in an American Federal Court per her constitutional rights.
It is completely illegal for the government to do so in any fashion and a 3rd rate public defender would be able to get it thrown out and overturned if any entity even considered attempting this.
TLDR; tribunals for citizen non combatants is illegal.
CryptoBard ago
She's a mossad POS spy, she qualifies.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
You didn’t read what I wrote. Even if that’s true, and even if they charged her with espionage (they didn’t) that is not sufficient to evoke a military tribunal. As an American citizen she is protected from that by the constitution. It is ILLEGAL to use the military justice system to try an American citizen. There is legal precedent for that fact stood up by 16 Supreme Court verdicts going back to the civil war. You don’t have to like it....but these are our laws and they are undisputed.
CryptoBard ago
I did read what you put down, nowhere does it explicitly state that an enemy spy gets anything less than the rope.
She's the enemy. A spy is a combatant.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
You clearly didn’t go to law school. Please show us where in her indictment she is charged with espionage or as an unregistered foreign intelligence agent.
As far as calling me a lurker...my friend I think the shill dost protest too much, methinks.
CryptoBard ago
What, some sophmore at a zionist law school thinks that bullshit applies at Military Tribunals, oooh raaah, I cannot wait for that new high speed fiber from gitmo to go into use.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
Move along shill. This “Zionist law school sophomore” is done destroying your ignorance.
Mil_Spec ago
@Vindicator
Do you often have sleeper accounts with zero comment history suddenly activate?
think- ago
He may be a sleeper account, what he says is correct, though.
And he isn't trying to cash in.
@Vindicator @FairbarnSykes77 @MercurysBall2
Mil_Spec ago
Yes. I carve (and sell) hand-made wooden products through my site.
I also distribute my research freely.
Peace be with you.
Vindicator ago
As a matter of fact, we do! Whenever big pizzagate news breaks.
That said, some folks are just lurkers. I have not read a really good breakdown of the whole Military Tribunal legality thing. Law is one of those things that clever people seem to be able to twist into whatever weapon they want it to be.
When I first heard Q mention this back in November 2017, I thought "No f'g way Trump would EVER do this and play into the Demonrats' "literally Hitler" narrative." But as more and more of the corruption and abuse of the Constitution has occurred, especially this year...I'm just keeping my eyes peeled for the next plot twist and trying to get our research other there.
CryptoBard ago
You're a coward, give me something better, you stopped trying.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
Shit my bad, I forgot this was VOAT, what I meant to say was as soon as I’m done fist fucking your obease mother with my 10 inch law firm senior partner cock I’ll be sure to blow another frosty load of well articulated justice deep into your faggot retard esophagus.....
Better? I’m still getting the hang of this place.
CryptoBard ago
Oh yeah, we've hit the depravity level, you've ran out of time and meaningful argument and you won't get any publicity down here.... welcome to Voat you kike.
We've got an immune system, meet me, a WHITE BLOOD CELL.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
Um what? Did you see the scoreboard? I’ve submitted irrefutable judicial precedent supporting my position. I posted this elsewhere but I’ll share it here for you since apparently you are having trouble following along.
This issue is actually not “up for debate” and there are not “two sides to it” purely legally speaking.
First, here is what the constitution says about your rights an American citizen:
The civilian justice system is outlined in the Fifth Amendment which states:
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Additionally, there are further protections in the 14th Amendment which states:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
More directly, the Procedural due process clause of the 14th states that When the government seeks to burden a person's protected liberty interest or property interest, the Supreme Court has held that procedural due process requires that, at a minimum, the government provide the person notice, an opportunity to be heard at an oral hearing, and a decision by a neutral decision maker.
In summary, a citizen, not involved in the military, not in a time or zone of war is only and specifically and exclusively subject and entitled to the protections and provisions of the civilian and federal justice system. This is not limited by the severity, or nature of the offence including murder, conspiracy or espionage.
Lets look at 3 such cases which make it clear that a citizen cannot be subject to military jurisdiction:
O'Callahan v. Parker
The June, 1969 landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court in O'Callahan v. Parker" has, held unconstitutional any prosecution by court-martial under the Uniform Code of Military Justice for any peacetime offense cognizable by an American civilian court, having no military significance, committed off post while neither the accused nor the victims were performing any military function, which crime neither involves the security of military posts or of military property or flounts military authority.
Ex parte Milligan
December 17, 1866 supreme court decision that a civilian, not in military service and resident of a state in which civilian courts are still functioning has a right when charged with a crime to be tried and punished in district or federal court with full constitutional protections. In addition, neither the President nor Congress has the authority to suspend the right of habeas corpus.
Hedges v. Obama
According to the text of Section 1021 of the NDAA provided that the U.S. President may authorize the armed forces to indefinitely detain the following persons set forth in § 1021(b)(2) of the NDAA:
A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
Section 1021(e) of the NDAA, provided:
Authorities.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.[25]
These provisions have been upheld, and the delineation is clear; an American citizen may not be subjected to these provisions of indefinite military confinement. Furthermore, any American citizen may not for any reason be subject to military tribunal including a civilian who commits a crime on a military base, or a civilian caught or participating in an act of espionage or sabotage.
All of these cases would be tried in a US Federal Court, where Maxwell now finds herself. She is being held in a NY jail and she is represented by attorney Lawrence Vogelma
CryptoBard ago
You forgot that were in an state of emergency, we're in the first information world war....so yeah, habeas corpus is suspended for these traitors..... you're whole 3 page defense of a child trafficker says it all.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
Go further into Article 1. This is a power of Congress, and has been overturned on the 2 cases where it was invoked: Overturned in Ex Parte Merryman, Hamdi vs Rumsfeld, Codified by Obama in 2009.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
Funny I don’t remember Congress voting on that particular war, nor the suspension of constitution. I feel like that information would have crossed my desk. Any other laws that I missed? Gravity? The 3rd law of thermodynamics perhaps?
No, she will be charged in federal court, will probably plead and will do 10 years in a federal prison. But neither she, nor any other American citizen will ever set foot in a military courtroom. Don’t take my word for it, just don’t be surprised when it happens, because it’s the law of the land we live in.
CryptoBard ago
All you need to do is pay attention, choose to know.
FairbairnSykes77 ago
Go further into Article 1. This is a power of Congress, and has been overturned on the 2 cases where it was invoked: Overturned in Ex Parte Merryman, Hamdi vs Rumsfeld, Codified by Obama in 2009.